Kylian Mbappe signs new contract at PSG until 2025 | LaLiga will file a complaint

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Mbappe would have been a massive draw for la liga. This will really hurt them in it’s attempts to stay relevant.
It will be interesting to see where Dembele plays next year. PSG may come into play.

I’m curious to know what kind of leverage the French president may have had in this signing. It was mentioned a few pages back
 

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The rivalries between proper football clubs means we all laugh at Real or Barca or Liverpool or United in these situations.

Which leaves everyone asleep at the wheel while clubs like PSG, City and soon Newcastle just destroy the game.

A 23 year old is going to earn 150m and then 50m a year to play in a team with players like Messi, Ramos, Marquinos and Veratti against teams who are built on less than the cost of one of those players. He'll also earn whatever PSG are paying him off book to have convinced him to reject his childhood team.

That sets a precedent which impacts transfers across the game. It ups the ante in negotiations between players and clubs who can't pull money out of the ground and spend it without thinking, merely to satisfy their egos.

In 10 years time, elite football will be be an annual contest between 4 or 5 state owned clubs and everyone will wonder how it got there.
 

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I don't think people defending this decision by saying "he'll be 26 in 2025, he can just move to a historically major club then" are being very realistic about how big transfers work.

For any given summer transfer window, a top player will have one, two, maybe three clubs they could move to. Those are the clubs that can afford to sign them and want/need to sign them in that specific moment in time. If we consider whether the player might even want to join that club or not, it goes down to one or maybe two. Hence why you rarely see bidding wars or big competitions for these players, it is almost always just the one club that's trying to get them.

For a normal player with a five-year contract that can leave with a transfer fee, these clubs can change every summer depending on the circumstances, so they have some options every year. For a player wanting to leave on a free transfer, there is only the one transfer window, so the options are much more limited.

Even if he took a paycut and accepted his current salary, there are few clubs in the world who could afford Mbappe in 2025. Who is it, really, other than Real Madrid (who I strongly doubt are going to do it)? Manchester City? Manchester United? Bayern Munich, maybe? Barcelona, if they've fixed their financial problems? Liverpool, maybe? Juventus, maybe? Chelsea, if their new ownership is up for it? That's two YES and five MAYBES. Of those teams, two are most likely to be top projects in any given moment (City and Bayern) and so they'll probably be no-brainers in 2025. But the rest go up and down all the time.

And then sure, Mbappe can be very good. Maybe he'll be even better in the next three years. But quality only goes so far. Teams will not sign you and pay a bunch of money unless they think they need you, even if you're great. So you are dependent on circumstance: which of these teams is going to need me, and will have the money to buy me, in that one single transfer window.

This is assuming a paycut. But let's be serious here. He's not going to take a substantial paycut. Messi and Ronaldo are both quite old and very wealthy and should be winding down, yet they're both chasing high wages still. You don't take these ridiculous sums of money without believing on some level that you deserve them, and if you believe that you're not letting them go that easily. And if he does not take a substantial paycut, then it's unlikely he'll have a better option than just renewing with PSG.
 
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The signings of these players were totally different. Personally as a fan I'd rather all of Qatar kicking me in the balls than try again with Mbappe in 2025.
As you say he will still be young enough to try in another league but certainly not as exciting in this era where we go crazy with 18/19 year old players.
Is this because he turned you down? Or are are you thinking there'll be other younger elite talents you can pin your hopes on by then?
 

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La Liga has been in existence for just over 90 years and has been won 61 times by Real Madrid or Barcelona. I like La Liga a lot, but those two clubs are dominant and always have been.

Your point is stupid, we are talking about now, as it stands it not a 2 horse race, Barca are terrible and real haven't got the pick of talent. Athletio have won 2 leagues and they won the last one, and are always their or about.


Where as France Germany etc PSG and Bayern have won nearly every one in last 10 years.



Who talking about last 90 years, your argument makes no sense why even make it unless you a PSG fan
 

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What's the second biggest ever signing on fee? Probably a tenth of what Mbappe is apparently getting.

What's funny is Barca and Madrid aren't owned by a regime that has built stadiums on top of the bodies of dead migrants.
The Spanish government have been bailing out real and Barcelona for years
Now they can’t compete, the hypocrisy from them bleating on about fair play is a joke.
Clubs with oil money are dirty scummers, real and barce are dirty scummers, end of
 

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Your point is stupid, we are talking about now, as it stands it not a 2 horse race, Barca are terrible and real haven't got the pick of talent. Athletio have won 2 leagues and they won the last one, and are always their or about.


Where as France Germany etc PSG and Bayern have won nearly every one in last 10 years.



Who talking about last 90 years, your argument makes no sense why even make it unless you a PSG fan
Actually, you're making his point, Barca are terrible and still finished second in the league.
 

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Karim Benzema talking about feeling betrayed by a friend. The same Karim Banzema who was found guilty of blackmailing a teammate over a sex tape.

Will wonders ever cease?
 

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I don't think people defending this decision by saying "he'll be 26 in 2025, he can just move to a historically major club then" are being very realistic about how big transfers work.

For any given summer transfer window, a top player will have one, two, maybe three clubs they could move to. Those are the clubs that can afford to sign them and want/need to sign them in that specific moment in time. If we consider whether the player might even want to join that club or not, it goes down to one or maybe two. Hence why you rarely see bidding wars or big competitions for these players, it is almost always just the one club that's trying to get them.

For a normal player with a five-year contract that can leave with a transfer fee, these clubs can change every summer depending on the circumstances, so they have some options every year. For a player wanting to leave on a free transfer, there is only the one transfer window, so the options are much more limited.

Even if he took a paycut and accepted his current salary, there are few clubs in the world who could afford Mbappe in 2025. Who is it, really, other than Real Madrid (who I strongly doubt are going to do it)? Manchester City? Manchester United? Bayern Munich, maybe? Barcelona, if they've fixed their financial problems? Liverpool, maybe? Juventus, maybe? Chelsea, if their new ownership is up for it? That's two YES and five MAYBES. Of those teams, two are most likely to be top projects in any given moment (City and Bayern) and so they'll probably be no-brainers in 2025. But the rest go up and down all the time.

And then sure, Mbappe can be very good. Maybe he'll be even better in the next three years. But quality only goes so far. Teams will not sign you and pay a bunch of money unless they think they need you, even if you're great. So you are dependent on circumstance: which of these teams is going to need me, and will have the money to buy me, in that one single transfer window.
He could have 2 transfer windows, in 2024 if PSG wants to cash out and 2025.

And who needs a player like Mbappé or an even better version of him? Pretty much any club that can afford him. And if he really wants to leave, he'll lower his wage since it's pretty impossible he extends his contract one more time.

And clubs can plan transaction in advance, they don't always go year by year. Lets say Liverpool needs a left winger in 2024, they might wait for a couple of month to secure a deal wih Mbappé in 2025 (hint, do it in january, not in may/june...).

Unless he gets badly injured, I have no doubt he'll find a prime spot in a top club.
 
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In 10 years time, elite football will be be an annual contest between 4 or 5 state owned clubs and everyone will wonder how it got there.
100%.

Incredible how many people in here were against super league but happy about this, as City are about to win their 4th title in 5 years.

Utter numpties, football is headed one way, and it’s not good, not good at all.
 

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So glad Mbappe didnt join that corrupt team that pushed the hardest for the Superleague.

No SL money, no Mbappe, No haaland, good.
 

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Dreams can be buy it seems then.
2013 : 14 yo Mbappé chose Monaco despite an offer from Real Madrid
2017 : 18 yo Mbappé chose PSG despite an offer from Real Madrid
2022 : 23 yo Mbappé chose to extend at PSG despite an offer from Real Madrid

At one point, people have to realized that Mbappé was far more a Ronaldo fan than he was a Real Madrid fan.
 

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100%.

Incredible how many people in here were against super league but happy about this, as City are about to win their 4th title in 5 years.

Utter numpties, football is headed one way, and it’s not good, not good at all.
Agreed. I was against the Super League because it involved turning our backs on real football clubs but staying in bed with the state run cheats.

I would fully get behind any breakaway that involved every proper club but left behind City, PSG, Newcastle and all the authorities who have failed to protect the game.
 

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Your point is stupid, we are talking about now, as it stands it not a 2 horse race,
So who are the top 2 teams right now?

Barca are terrible and real haven't got the pick of talent.
False on both counts

Athletio have won 2 leagues and they won the last one, and are always their or about.
they've won 3 leagues in 30 years. How many have Barca and Madrid won in that time frame?

Where as France Germany etc PSG and Bayern have won nearly every one in last 10 years.
Ok, so their leagues are currently dominated by one team instead of 2.

Who talking about last 90 years, your argument makes no sense why even make it unless you a PSG fan
Not a PSG fan, just providing some context.
 

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Is this because he turned you down? Or are are you thinking there'll be other younger elite talents you can pin your hopes on by then?
Mainly because he turned us down and I didn't like how he did it, and this is the second time. We cannot base our sports planning on the following year, and beyond.
He is a fantastic player but he is not Messi or Cristiano. That is to say, obviously I would sign Cris or Messi with 26 or 27 but I would think about it with Mbappé, but as I say, I am spiteful.
It is like signing Vini now, who is very fast and injury-free, to do it in 5 years.
 

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100%.

Incredible how many people in here were against super league but happy about this, as City are about to win their 4th title in 5 years.

Utter numpties, football is headed one way, and it’s not good, not good at all.
Not 100% at all. PSG will always be limited by ligue 1, some great players will always be attracted by historic clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool or Juventus. We've seen plenty of huge sugar daddies in the history of football, it never killed historic clubs.
 

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Far be it from me to defend PSG here, but why are people cussing only them in terms of the contract when reports are saying Real were matching things?
 

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Short contract means in 2 years the circus can start again and he can look forward to the next sign on bonus. Amazing financial deal for himself.
 

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Mainly because he turned us down and I didn't like how he did it, and this is the second time. We cannot base our sports planning on the following year, and beyond.
He is a fantastic player but he is not Messi or Cristiano. That is to say, obviously I would sign Cris or Messi with 26 or 27 but I would think about it with Mbappé, but as I say, I am spiteful.
It is like signing Vini now, who is very fast and injury-free, to do it in 5 years.
At least you are honest. I felt like that when Ronaldo left and didn't want him back but if I'm being honest while it hasn't been the same, I still enjoyed watching him play for United again.
 

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Not 100% at all. PSG will always be limited by ligue 1, some great players will always be attracted by historic clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool or Juventus. We've seen plenty of huge sugar daddies in the history of football, it never killed other clubs.
No. There have never been sugar daddies like PSG, City and Newcastle.

There have been rich individuals who have funded clubs within the rules and structures of accountable financial environments.

Clubs owned by states with next to unlimited wealth and closed door financial environments are accountable to nobody. Comparing the two types of "sugar daddies" is ridiculous.
 

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So who are the top 2 teams right now?



False on both counts



they've won 3 leagues in 30 years. How many have Barca and Madrid won in that time frame?



Ok, so their leagues are currently dominated by one team instead of 2.



Not a PSG fan, just providing some context.


You keep making these big 90 years now 30 years to argue points.

We talking about the now and not the then.



France and Germany etc are literally one horse, where as la Liga has had 3 winners even in the last 5 years maybe less. I don't get your point and what you are arguing here.

Their is no context. I know in Spain their is historically 2 teams who dominate it, but if anyone is mentioning their league in same breath as France, especially with the infalted oil money doping compared to the rest, then I don't know what to say to you
 

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Far be it from me to defend PSG here, but why are people cussing only them in terms of the contract when reports are saying Real were matching things?
The relative difference in income and losses between the two clubs over the past couple of years.

Madrid are basically saying PSG can't afford this, is my understanding.
 

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The rivalries between proper football clubs means we all laugh at Real or Barca or Liverpool or United in these situations.

Which leaves everyone asleep at the wheel while clubs like PSG, City and soon Newcastle just destroy the game.

A 23 year old is going to earn 150m and then 50m a year to play in a team with players like Messi, Ramos, Marquinos and Veratti against teams who are built on less than the cost of one of those players. He'll also earn whatever PSG are paying him off book to have convinced him to reject his childhood team.

That sets a precedent which impacts transfers across the game. It ups the ante in negotiations between players and clubs who can't pull money out of the ground and spend it without thinking, merely to satisfy their egos.

In 10 years time, elite football will be be an annual contest between 4 or 5 state owned clubs and everyone will wonder how it got there.
Spot on.

Easy to laugh at Real in this situation and zero sympathy from me towards them but this is a potentially dangerous reset of the market and evidential proof that state-sponsored clubs can spend whatever they please to completely eradicate the competition.
 

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You keep making these big 90 years now 30 years to argue points.

We talking about the now and not the then.



France and Germany etc are literally one horse, where as la Liga has had 3 winners even in the last 5 years maybe less. I don't get your point and what you are arguing here.

Their is no context. I know in Spain their is historically 2 teams who dominate it, but if anyone is mentioning their league in same breath as France, especially with the infalted oil money doping compared to the rest, then I don't know what to say to you
Try and follow the actual debate from the start then, rather than making assumptions about what is being claimed. With respect.
 

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No. There have never been sugar daddies like PSG, City and Newcastle.

There have been rich individuals who have funded clubs within the rules and structures of accountable financial environments.

Clubs owned by states with next to unlimited wealth and closed door financial environments are accountable to nobody. Comparing the two types of "sugar daddies" is ridiculous.
:lol: I suggest you take a look at the history of football, especially in Italy in the 80's/90's, it's full of mafia stories, cheating, bribing, hidden bags of money and political influence.
 

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£100m signing on fee and a base wage of £1m a week?

Qatari warlords flashing their blood money again. What a farce.
 

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Far be it from me to defend PSG here, but why are people cussing only them in terms of the contract when reports are saying Real were matching things?
I can only speak for myself, but because I don't believe those reports.

What PSG report they are paying Mbappe and what they are actually paying him are simply not the same. PSG owners own a country through which they can pay whoever they want, whatever they want.

The kid grew up dreaming of playing for Real Madrid and now we're to believe he's staying at PSG when both offers are the same? It's just not believable.

It's the same reason you see guys like Salah and Mane linked with moves away from Liverpool, or Ronaldo leaves United after winning the CL, but there was never any talk of moves away for De Bruyne or David Silva or Kompany or Aguero until the end. As though these lads only ever dreamt of playing for City growing up.

These teams are playing by different rules to every other team in the sport and we're all sitting around and still calling it competition. It's not - it's a farce.
 

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Spot on.

Easy to laugh at Real in this situation and zero sympathy from me towards them but this is a potentially dangerous reset of the market and evidential proof that state-sponsored clubs can spend whatever they please to completely eradicate the competition.
but this isn't new and the EPL just allowed Saudi Arabia to take over a club. There wasn't even a serious attempt to stop it from the fans/media/league, like with the super league. Money buys everyone who is relevant to allow this, including fans. City was the watershed moment and them winning their case against FFP was the final nail.
 

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:lol: I suggest you take a look at the history of football, especially in Italy in the 80's/90's, it's full of mafia stories, cheating, bribing, hidden bags of money and political influence.
There was cheating and fixing and it was uncovered and titles were rescinded and teams relegated.

If you think there was anyone in the Mafia spending the sort of money needed to skew the balance to the extent that PSG and City are then you're deluded.
 
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Not 100% at all. PSG will always be limited by ligue 1, some great players will always be attracted by historic clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool or Juventus. We've seen plenty of huge sugar daddies in the history of football, it never killed historic clubs.
Stop pretending PSG, City or Newcastle are remotely comparable to a “sugar daddy”. They are state owned bottomless pits.
 

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At least you are honest. I felt like that when Ronaldo left and didn't want him back but if I'm being honest while it hasn't been the same, I still enjoyed watching him play for United again.
but Cristiano built a legacy. He came back late but he was like the prodigal son. Mbappé has built nothing with us. It's paradoxical to say we are the best club in the world, with that thing they say we're "entitled" fans and then lick a player's arse for a decade.
And wait because now Zidane...Obviously I love Zidane very much and he is free to do what he wants but I consider him our property. It's going to feck me up big time if he's the PSG coach next season.
 

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The 3 highest paid footballers of all time make up PSG’s front 3.. just ridiculous :lol: