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Never underestimate the mammoth task of leading Spurs to glory. Mourinho, who I easily rate better than Conte, failed at Spurs. And unless they invest massively and wisely this summer, any injury to either of the ageing duo of Kane or Son will be a huge blow to their prospects for any success. There were seasons when I had them nailed on to fight for the title and even conquer Europe but only to flatter to deceive. My prediction is Spurs will still be Spurs again even with Conte.
That is just insane. Have you watched Spurs play the past couple of months? Did you watch them under Mourinho?

Spurs under Conte is currently, despite a rough start of implementing a more demanding style of play, at 2,00 points per game over 28 games. Over 38 games that would equal 76 points. Mourinho averaged 1,64 with Spurs. Over 38 games that equal 62 points.

Conte is a topp four (next to Klopp, Pep and Simeone, in no particular order) manager in the world right now. Mourinho is very average, currently not performing any better with Roma than Fonseca or Di Fransesco and worse than Rudi Garcia and Luciano Spalletti. I was quite surprised back in 2016 when we hired him how highly rated he was by people in here. To still read stuff like this is just baffling.
 

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Nope… they will start to try and win the league.
I would have put them in contention for the title if it wasn't for City and Liverpool. City with Haaland will walk the league next season. Only Liverpool can stop them and they are currently the best team in the world. Spurs also lack the squad depth of those two.

But I think beating Chelsea to 3rd is likely.
 

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Does anyone know where they'll spend the money?

Romero 36M + Kulusevski 31M is guaranteed. (67M). That leaves 83M for new transfers.

Think they'll go for atleast one wing back and one CM.
 

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Does anyone know where they'll spend the money?

Romero 36M + Kulusevski 31M is guaranteed. (67M). That leaves 83M for new transfers.

Think they'll go for atleast one wing back and one CM.
Kulusevski is meant to be on another season loan with obligation.

I've seen stories they'll sign Kostic and Spence for the wing backs, think they would be good signings for the supposed £35M-£40M fee.

Imagine they will go for a left center back, a midfielder and a forward.
 

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I don't think so. That Chelsea team was far more talented than the current Spurs side, didn't play in Europe, outperformed XG by more than any other PL team in the era that XG has been tracked, and had a near perfect health record. It was a great team that fully deserved the title but also a perfect storm of circumstances. And even with all that, they would not have kept up with Pep's side of the following year or other recent years.

Pep and to a lesser degree Klopp have just cracked the code for consistent dominance in today's PL - match after match their sides create tons of chances while hardly giving opponents a sniff, and they do it by dominating possession and territory. Not only is the level just insanely high but its really unclear that Conte's reactive style of play is ever going to produce that same level of consistent domination. None of his sides have ever been that dominant, whether at Juve, Chelsea, or Inter. I say this as a big admirer of his track record, which is unimpeachable in terms of league titles. But he has never created a team the level of current City or Liverpool.

Spurs also need a lot of roster surgery to hope to compete at that level. Realistically, they need better starters at both wingback positions, LCB, CM and two better backup forwards as they can't rely on Kane/Son/Kulu to play every match especially next year which will be insane with fixture congestion and none of their current backup options like Lucas or Bergwijn are nearly good enough. That's like six really good players and they have to all be successful signings and settle quickly and its still probably not enough to beat Guardiola unless City have a big injury crisis.
You do realise there are only 2 managers in football that have taken teams from decades of not winning the league to winning the league within 3 years. Klopp and Conte.
All of these mentions of Pep confuse me, please don't compare someone who has consistently gone to the best team in the league and outspent the majority of the managers since he was there to Conte and Klopp.

Just for reference Juve hadn't won the league for 10 years before Conte, he then started an era of dominance for Juve where they won 9 in a row until it was ended by you guessed it... Conte when he took Inter to their first Serie A in 10 years.

Conte is a league manager like a young Mourinho. He knows how to navigate the league calendar, how to beat the smaller teams and to take points of the bigger teams. Your whole post is based on style of play, you can say Klopp's/Peps football is better, easier on the eye, more control over the course of the game and I think everyone will agree but Conte with his signings, time with the squad will be up there with them regardless of what you think of his tactics.

Since Conte joined Spurs they beat City 3-2 and were unlucky not to get a win at Liverpool (both times). In fact you could say that Conte cost Liverpool the league title with that draw at Anfield. All of this done with the same squad Mourinho failed with (+Romero Kulusevski since Jan and Bentancur since Jan), Kane was also nowhere near as good at the beginning of Conte's reign compared to how he was under Mourinho.
 

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Can you explain us how good this Chelsea team really was ? You mean the same team that finished 10th last season and no one gave them a chance to even be back at top 4 ? You are talking about Chelsea team ?
Yes, I can explain actually because I realise fans like you think football is black and white.

Chelsea's team had a bad season, they won the league the season before as well.

They had Courtouis, Luiz, Cahill, Ivanovic, Terry, Azpi, Kante, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, OScar, Willian.

But okay, ofcourse you wouldn't know because you base your judgement based on where they finished.

Does that mean United were a really good side in August because they finished 2nd last season?
 

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Conte's aim is to challenge for the title. No doubt about it.
People here think you're insane to think that but I wouldn't put it past Conte to have Spurs challenging next season. I think he's probably the most underrated manager here in the Caf.

Of course that's providing he's adequately backed in the transfer market.
I think it is pretty evident that if he stays, it is to have a proper shot… aka all the parties involved will push themselves and stretch a bit… at the title in the next two seasons, with him signing a new contract soon to offer the board stability, the same way he did with Inter.

That said, yes, City and Liverpool are two 90+ points teams in their prime instead of one end-of-cycle Juventus, yet his focus will be on his own team mainly, that is to say prepare them to aim at the 85+ points region… which seems doable if you consider his stats with the squad he inherited + just two youngsters like Kulusevski and Bentancur.

Nobody is saying that Spurs will win the league, yet you can all be sure they would be set up like a F1 car and have a go.
 

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Yes, I can explain actually because I realise fans like you think football is black and white.

Chelsea's team had a bad season, they won the league the season before as well.

They had Courtouis, Luiz, Cahill, Ivanovic, Terry, Azpi, Kante, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, OScar, Willian.

But okay, ofcourse you wouldn't know because you base your judgement based on where they finished.

Does that mean United were a really good side in August because they finished 2nd last season?
So we won the league with SAF, but then we finish 7th. Kinda similar wth what happen with Chelsea. And what happen the season after that ? Yep we didn't win the league since SAF.


Can you also remind me how many times Chelsea have won the league since Conte left ? Is the answer zero ?


They didn't have Luiz, and Kante. They brough them when Conte goes. They bring Moses, brough Alonso and etc. Terry was 50 years old already and Conte didn't play him at all. Absolutely the same with Ivanovic, who was transfered. Maybe you should have known that ? Did you even know that he changed Azpi position from RB to RCB ??? Maybe check your facts next time ?



And of course i'm going to base my judgment on where they finish, this is the most important thing. You are as good as your last season. Same in Boxing as good as your last match. Doesn't really matter what you have done 10 years ago.


And i remember very well that everyone was saying this Chelsea team is finish, and that they need a complete rebuild, and that the current players are washed and not good enough. No one give them a chance to even qualify for Top 4. On top of that they have rough start, until Conte changed to 3-4-3 and they start dominating and won the league.


You are trying to downplay Conte, but his achievments are too big to be brought down. The guy is an absolutely genius who doesn't need much time to transform a team completely.


Just to mention, this is my last post for today, so don't expect a future reply.
 

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Complete rubbish that i will prove wrong.

He is one of the best talent finder in the game.

Should i even mention his time in Juve and how much quality he get in there? Should i even mention that he also develop players that wasn't labeled as top talent back then ? He pretty much build a team that comes back from Serie B, and had 2 back to back 7 places to a dominant force straight away.

Nice try with Chelsea and his second season spell, when he said they didn't brough a single name he wanted, and all the transfers was done by the board, because they have a vision of which players they want in there.

He said he got zero word for the players Chelsea brough, and was all done by Marina Granovskaia.
He wanted Lukaku, they brough him Morata. He never wanted any of Emerson, Barkley, Bakayoko and Drinkwater.

Same story with Michy Batshuayi that was literally done transfer before he moved to them and he had zero wrods.

But i'm curious why you not speak about Alonso, who was one of their best player for quite some time ? Or maybe Kante?

At Inter Milan they brough Lukaku for 74m. and then sell it for 113m. Almost 40m. profit, not bad.

Hakimi 43m. sold for 66,5m.

Nicolo Barella was a great signing for not much money, which worth 2x+ more than for what they brought him.

Darmian on loan was great addition. Also getting Bastoni out of loan back and integrated him to the first squad, great move.

Guys like Sanchez, Moses, Ashley Young, Arturo Vidal, Godin has done a great job, excluding Sanchez, but they were all on free transfer.

Also he discover and develop the potential of Lautaro Martinez, and turn him into deadly scorer and made a great duo of him and Lukaku.

Also people saying he is not that dominant, h ? He got Chelsea second best season in their history with 93 points. Only Mourinho in his prime has one season with 94 points.

He keep the record for most points won in a season in Serie A with 102 pts in his 2013-2014 season with Juventus.

He also set a record when was on Chelsea on 13 or so consecutive wins. And also with Juventus have 13 consecutive wins in a single season.

Most wins in a single season with Juventus as well - 33. He also was unbeaten during a whole season with Juventus in 2011-2012.

Instead of people trying to twist the reality, they should give Conte his due, cause he is an outstanding manager, that can build team from scratches, and i'm still heavily pissed we didn't get him, when we got the opportunity.
Good post. Conte is criminally underrated on this forum, he's easily one of the top 5 active managers in the world right now. Obviously his European record needs to be improved, but he's only had 4 CL campaigns with 3 different teams, I'm sure that will improve as he plays more European games.
 

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Complete rubbish that i will prove wrong.


He is one of the best talent finder in the game.


Should i even mention his time in Juve and how much quality he get in there? Should i even mention that he also develop players that wasn't labeled as top talent back then ? He pretty much build a team that comes back from Serie B, and had 2 back to back 7 places to a dominant force straight away.



Nice try with Chelsea and his second season spell, when he said they didn't brough a single name he wanted, and all the transfers was done by the board, because they have a vision of which players they want in there.


He said he got zero word for the players Chelsea brough, and was all done by Marina Granovskaia.
He wanted Lukaku, they brough him Morata. He never wanted any of Emerson, Barkley, Bakayoko and Drinkwater.


Same story with Michy Batshuayi that was literally done transfer before he moved to them and he had zero wrods.


But i'm curious why you not speak about Alonso, who was one of their best player for quite some time ? Or maybe Kante?


At Inter Milan they brough Lukaku for 74m. and then sell it for 113m. Almost 40m. profit, not bad.


Hakimi 43m. sold for 66,5m.


Nicolo Barella was a great signing for not much money, which worth 2x+ more than for what they brought him.


Darmian on loan was great addition. Also getting Bastoni out of loan back and integrated him to the first squad, great move.


Guys like Sanchez, Moses, Ashley Young, Arturo Vidal, Godin has done a great job, excluding Sanchez, but they were all on free transfer.


Also he discover and develop the potential of Lautaro Martinez, and turn him into deadly scorer and made a great duo of him and Lukaku.


Also people saying he is not that dominant, h ? He got Chelsea second best season in their history with 93 points. Only Mourinho in his prime has one season with 94 points.


He keep the record for most points won in a season in Serie A with 102 pts in his 2013-2014 season with Juventus.


He also set a record when was on Chelsea on 13 or so consecutive wins. And also with Juventus have 13 consecutive wins in a single season.


Most wins in a single season with Juventus as well - 33. He also was unbeaten during a whole season with Juventus in 2011-2012.


Instead of people trying to twist the reality, they should give Conte his due, cause he is an outstanding manager, that can build team from scratches, and i'm still heavily pissed we didn't get him, when we got the opportunity.
Top post. The general opinion on the Caf regarding Conte is shocking and completely detached from reality. The guy is a top draw manager and not getting him when we could is another utter failure by this club. He was exactly what we needed. Ten Hag was my second choice, but picking him over Conte is ridiculous. More so considering the motives behind not picking him.
 

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Highest fee paid by Villarreal is for Danjuma, which is around 20-21 million. They have to break their record to sign Lo Celso.

Except 2-3 clubs in each league, most of them don't pay big money to sign players.
Yeah…and that fee they paid is right in line with what I’d be expecting for Lo Celso.

Does anyone know where they'll spend the money?

Romero 36M + Kulusevski 31M is guaranteed. (67M). That leaves 83M for new transfers.

Think they'll go for atleast one wing back and one CM.
I think that’s an overly reductive way of thinking about signings as payments structures differ from signing to signing.

Also Spurs are pushing the Kulusevski payment to next season.

As for signings expect most of the budget likely to go to a LCB and probably to an attacker. LCB because it seems to be Conte’s rumoured biggest want (and the ones we’ve had the most noise about would all be expensive) and attacker because they’re just generally expensive. They’ll definitely add a wingback if not two. Plus a midfielder wouldn’t surprise me.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some of those signings also be like some of the recent ones that are loans with purchase options to help the budget. Also quite a few of our rumoured targets are available on frees.

Some of the players we’ve been heavily rumoured to:
LCB: Bastoni, Torres, Gvardiol, Bremer, Ndicka
Forward: Dybala, Jesus
LWB: Kostic, Perisic
RWB: Spence, Traore
 

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Complete rubbish that i will prove wrong.


He is one of the best talent finder in the game.


Should i even mention his time in Juve and how much quality he get in there? Should i even mention that he also develop players that wasn't labeled as top talent back then ? He pretty much build a team that comes back from Serie B, and had 2 back to back 7 places to a dominant force straight away.



Nice try with Chelsea and his second season spell, when he said they didn't brough a single name he wanted, and all the transfers was done by the board, because they have a vision of which players they want in there.


He said he got zero word for the players Chelsea brough, and was all done by Marina Granovskaia.
He wanted Lukaku, they brough him Morata. He never wanted any of Emerson, Barkley, Bakayoko and Drinkwater.


Same story with Michy Batshuayi that was literally done transfer before he moved to them and he had zero wrods.


But i'm curious why you not speak about Alonso, who was one of their best player for quite some time ? Or maybe Kante?


At Inter Milan they brough Lukaku for 74m. and then sell it for 113m. Almost 40m. profit, not bad.


Hakimi 43m. sold for 66,5m.


Nicolo Barella was a great signing for not much money, which worth 2x+ more than for what they brought him.


Darmian on loan was great addition. Also getting Bastoni out of loan back and integrated him to the first squad, great move.


Guys like Sanchez, Moses, Ashley Young, Arturo Vidal, Godin has done a great job, excluding Sanchez, but they were all on free transfer.


Also he discover and develop the potential of Lautaro Martinez, and turn him into deadly scorer and made a great duo of him and Lukaku.


Also people saying he is not that dominant, h ? He got Chelsea second best season in their history with 93 points. Only Mourinho in his prime has one season with 94 points.


He keep the record for most points won in a season in Serie A with 102 pts in his 2013-2014 season with Juventus.


He also set a record when was on Chelsea on 13 or so consecutive wins. And also with Juventus have 13 consecutive wins in a single season.


Most wins in a single season with Juventus as well - 33. He also was unbeaten during a whole season with Juventus in 2011-2012.


Instead of people trying to twist the reality, they should give Conte his due, cause he is an outstanding manager, that can build team from scratches, and i'm still heavily pissed we didn't get him, when we got the opportunity.
So all the good buys were down to him and all the duds were down to Marina? He didn't approve those transfers in the end?

So the good transfers at Chelsea were: Kante, Alonso

Bad or meh: Morata, Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Rudiger, Zappacosta, Emerson, Barkley, Giroud and Ampadu.

Good at Inter: Barella, Lukaku and Hakimi (both big money)

Bad or old players that look okay at a slower Italian league: Moses, Ashley Young, Arturo Vidal, Godin, Darmian

Let's put it this way, if he signs a similar calibre to 90% of those players it won't cut it in the PL. Most of those Chelsea buys were terrible and the Inter ones would struggle in the PL (a lot of them left the PL because they no longer looked any good there).

Juve I didn't comment because I didnt follow Serie A then. Also I never said he is a bad manager - clearly he is an excellent one, I was talking purely about the transfers.
 

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then Chelsea who finished 10th,
He went to a City team that the only big difference between 15/16 Chelsea the same season was the first 5 games.

and then for Tottenham in that super hard period.
Neither would Conte if he didn't burn so many bridges and make the top tier clubs think twice about getting him.

There wasn't a single moan from Conte in his Inter side.
I mean, a quick Google search alone found this.

https://ronaldo.com/football-news/conte-hits-out-at-inter-hierarchy-in-full-blown-rant/

A matter of months after they put themselves in financial difficulty delivering him Hakimi and Lukaku on a silver platter.
 

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The talk is that the full £150m will be available to Conte for transfers PLUS anything we get from player sales PLUS the Champions League money. I never thought I would see the day that Spurs would spend close to £200m in a transfer window but it looks like it could happen.
 

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Genuinely think with that type of money and Conte at the helm, they have a big chance of challenging for the title. He’s that good.
 

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Just thought now would be a good time to quote one of your old comments from February :lol: :lol:

It would be funny if he gets the sack before the end of the season. As stated before coaching spurs is different from coaching a top club. It is much harder than some think. Even with all their talents, they are bottling a top four place
What wrong about that? In fact it correspond to my post as Conte stated getting top four is one of his greatest accomplishments. And Conte has won trophies in some difficult league before. They were bottling fourth place before until the last two games of the season. Spurs were favorite for fourth place after United capitulated.

Jesus, I don't even know why I waste time responding to you, or how you even got promoted from the newbie forum.
 

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What wrong about that? In fact it correspond to my post as Conte stated getting top four is one of his greatest accomplishments. And Conte has won trophies in some difficult league before. They were bottling fourth place before until the last two games of the season. Spurs were favorite for fourth place after United capitulated.

Jesus, I don't even know why I waste time responding to you, or how you even got promoted from the newbie forum.
Spurs were never favourites for top four, until the last two games. By then they had hauled themselves into that position by doing the exact opposite of what you claimed they were, bottling it!! :lol:

It's there in digital form, everything you've said, for prosperity for all and yourself to see, yet still your blinded by Pochettino's colon.

And I know why you 'waste your time' responding, because you are someone that doubles down when incorrect in hope that you can try and convince yourself that you're right.

I for one absolutely love it. :D:devil:
 

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Without underestimating Spurs' CL qualification, I honestly don't get all these accolades being showered on him. Conte has been at Spurs since last November and Spurs have won nothing yet. The far less experienced Di Matteo and Arteta won silverware within 5 months of their appointments, so what's Conte's excuse? Until he leads Spurs to silverware which they really desperately need, he cannot be considered a success. I really hope he wins something especially considering Son and Kane are approaching 30 without anything to show for their careers. Spurs need to get rid of the nearly-men tag and start winning something tangible to be taken seriously. They have arguably the deadliest attacking partnership in Europe, so a lot is expected of them. For now, it's far too early to start showering him with all those accolades.
Son and Kane basically dragged Spurs into the top four and Conte got the best out of them. Kane was bound to get his act together once Nuno left. But Spurs weren't exactly in a perilous position as the media made out, it wasn't like the '2 points from 8 games' under Ramos.

It's good for Spurs that ENIC want to invest, the first XI needs freshening up. But not convinced Conte will have it all his way.
 

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That is just insane. Have you watched Spurs play the past couple of months? Did you watch them under Mourinho?

Spurs under Conte is currently, despite a rough start of implementing a more demanding style of play, at 2,00 points per game over 28 games. Over 38 games that would equal 76 points. Mourinho averaged 1,64 with Spurs. Over 38 games that equal 62 points.

Conte is a topp four (next to Klopp, Pep and Simeone, in no particular order) manager in the world right now. Mourinho is very average, currently not performing any better with Roma than Fonseca or Di Fransesco and worse than Rudi Garcia and Luciano Spalletti. I was quite surprised back in 2016 when we hired him how highly rated he was by people in here. To still read stuff like this is just baffling.
Conte is not a bad manager, though his main success was with Juve in what was then a one-team league. But please stop showering Conte with all those accolades, he hasn't won anything yet at Spurs. As silverware goes, Di Matteo and Arteta won trophies within five months of taking over new clubs, something Conte couldn't achieve. And yes, I absolutely and easily rate Mourinho a better manager than Conte. Just look at their silverware, Jose is miles ahead. In fact, Conte has never won anything in Europe where Mourinho has lost count of his trophies. Yes he beat City home and away but he also lost to awful opposition, including the now-relegated Burnley. It's far too early to cream off about Conte. Many questions will be answered this coming season.
 

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Son and Kane basically dragged Spurs into the top four and Conte got the best out of them. Kane was bound to get his act together once Nuno left. But Spurs weren't exactly in a perilous position as the media made out, it wasn't like the '2 points from 8 games' under Ramos.

It's good for Spurs that ENIC want to invest, the first XI needs freshening up. But not convinced Conte will have it all his way.
That's an exaggeration. Only the three teams that finished above us conceded fewer goals than Spurs, who let in 8 goals less than Arsenal and 17 less than United.

It was by no means all about the goals and assists from Kane and Son.
 

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Conte is not a bad manager, though his main success was with Juve in what was then a one-team league. But please stop showering Conte with all those accolades, he hasn't won anything yet at Spurs. As silverware goes, Di Matteo and Arteta won trophies within five months of taking over new clubs, something Conte couldn't achieve. And yes, I absolutely and easily rate Mourinho a better manager than Conte. Just look at their silverware, Jose is miles ahead. In fact, Conte has never won anything in Europe where Mourinho has lost count of his trophies. Yes he beat City home and away but he also lost to awful opposition, including the now-relegated Burnley. It's far too early to cream off about Conte. Many questions will be answered this coming season.
Fluking a cup won't make anyone better manager, league is always the measure of consistency and quality.

Also winning cups, Di Matteo won CL within 5 months, something Pep haven't done in last 10 years. Or Pep + Jose failed to achieve in last 10 years.
 

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If that report is true, it's disgusting that Ronaldo "essentially blocked" a move for Conte - he was obviously the right choice for a caretaker/18 month tenure, and this isn't just hindsight, many people here knew it as well.
I’m delighted.

Would much rather focus on the long term instead of another short term appointment just to finish 4th. Erik will win stuff here and Conte will win diddlysquat at Spurs just like José who could even manage a trophy with Roma.
 

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So all the good buys were down to him and all the duds were down to Marina? He didn't approve those transfers in the end?

So the good transfers at Chelsea were: Kante, Alonso

Bad or meh: Morata, Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Rudiger, Zappacosta, Emerson, Barkley, Giroud and Ampadu.

Good at Inter: Barella, Lukaku and Hakimi (both big money)

Bad or old players that look okay at a slower Italian league: Moses, Ashley Young, Arturo Vidal, Godin, Darmian

Let's put it this way, if he signs a similar calibre to 90% of those players it won't cut it in the PL. Most of those Chelsea buys were terrible and the Inter ones would struggle in the PL (a lot of them left the PL because they no longer looked any good there).

Juve I didn't comment because I didnt follow Serie A then. Also I never said he is a bad manager - clearly he is an excellent one, I was talking purely about the transfers.


I can't post videos, cause i'm new member, but again there is a interview with him, where he openly talk about the transfers in the second season with Chelsea. And he state that every single transfer they have done that window was not what he wanted, and the transfers was done by the board. And that they have transfer policy that does not fit Conte/their vision.

Anyway here is what he have to said, his words:
We must be strong to accept this type of situation. Then, in the future, if there is the possibility, you have to try to buy only two or three players – not eight players. Don’t forget, this summer we brought in eight players and spent a lot less than other teams who bought only two or three.” The club prioritised quantity over quality in the summer. Rarely in football does such a strategy work.

Conte said: “I think the club decide our transfer market. As I said before, my task is to try to improve the team. "About the transfer market, from the summer, the club decides every single player.


"I continue to work with my players. This situation continues from this summer, not now. "My task continues to be to give everything for this club. The club is to take the best decision for the team.


“I think there are different situations. Sometimes I can have an impact on the transfer market, sometimes I don’t have an impact on this. "My first task is to do my job, and be a coach, and to try to improve my players. For sure, I don’t have a big impact on the transfer market."

One point i had forget to talk is that they appointed him in every state/press/release they do with the word - Head Coach, not manager. Another quote:
They offered the Italian tactician the role of a “Head Coach” and not “Manager.” This meant Conte had less say in the club’s transfer dealings than, for example, Mourinho had
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You totally forget to include points that don't fit your narrative. For example Matic, Conte wanted him to stay, but Chelsea board sell it to us. They buy him Drinkwater as a replacement. And he didn't play him. He also barely played Michy Batshuayi because it was Chelsea board decision to buy him.


Everyone knows that after the end of the season he wanted to buy certain type of players, but there was power play by Marina, their director, and it become a burst, and straight at the beginning of the season it was crystal clear he won't get the player he wanted and that he is gone after the end of the season, which collapse their entire season.


Now you may say how that was not the case in his first, very simple, they had Michael Emenalo on that position. He quit, because of power play, and Marina decide to show "balls" who the boss is.


The list with players he wanted was leaked, and the names was Harry Kane/Lukaku, Virgil van Dijk, Sandro, Bonucci, Danilo, Candreva, and Llorente.


They brought Ross Barkley with long-term injury, Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Bakayoko and Giroud.


Rudiger no matter who calls was for him, was a solid signing and it's still solid defender.


You are bringing Ampadu in the conversation as a player Conte wanted, you serious ? This was Chelsea scout transfer all over. The guy was like what 15 years back then, are you even serious ?





As far as Inter goes and the "old players" you describe are because unlike some other managers, he doesn't have unlimited funds. He brought all of the players i mention for free, and most of them has done great job, cause they won the league.


Sanchez, Moses, Ashley Young, Arturo Vidal, Godin, all of them, except for Sanchez has done their purpose, and they were free transfer once again.


You add Lukaku, Hakimi, Bastoni(getting back), Darmian and Barella and his transfers at Inter were world class having in mind he doesn't have unlimited funds, unlike what some people are trying to spin it.


Conte has always been capable of building very strong pretty much from scratches and transform them to a winning mentality team.
That's last on me for Conte, cause i waste way too much of my posts on him already.
 
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I mean, a quick Google search alone found this.

https://ronaldo.com/football-news/conte-hits-out-at-inter-hierarchy-in-full-blown-rant/

A matter of months after they put themselves in financial difficulty delivering him Hakimi and Lukaku on a silver platter.
You skip very convenient the part where they get 60+m. for Lukaku and Hakimi, which are exactly the players Conte bring.
Their crisis become a thing, because of COVID, not because of Conte.


And that interview is not crying about transfers or so. This is some excerpts quotes that doesn't have much sense.

That's last on me for Conte, cause i waste way too much of my posts on him already.
 
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I’m delighted.

Would much rather focus on the long term instead of another short term appointment just to finish 4th. Erik will win stuff here and Conte will win diddlysquat at Spurs just like José who could even manage a trophy with Roma.
Come on, this is magical thinking at best. The entire “long term” narrative is just fluff, even Ten Hag knows United has to show immediate progress (aka achieve a CL spot next year) in order to keep all the parties on his train.
 

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I would have put them in contention for the title if it wasn't for City and Liverpool. City with Haaland will walk the league next season. Only Liverpool can stop them and they are currently the best team in the world. Spurs also lack the squad depth of those two.

But I think beating Chelsea to 3rd is likely.
Yeah Spurs squad really isn't good enough to challenge at all for league at present moment.

Their bench v Arsenal had on it Dane Scarlett, Harvey White, Matthew Craig, Harry Winks, Joe Roden and the keepers so they need far more depth which Conte is requesting especially with them back in CL which will be demanding.

Plus Liverpool and Man. City are reguarly shooting 90 + points, Spurs are 70-75 points so shows how difficult it is to take the extra step.

Kane will probably leave next summer so he'll leave a massive void.
 

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Spurs were never favourites for top four, until the last two games. By then they had hauled themselves into that position by doing the exact opposite of what you claimed they were, bottling it!! :lol:

It's there in digital form, everything you've said, for prosperity for all and yourself to see, yet still your blinded by Pochettino's colon.

And I know why you 'waste your time' responding, because you are someone that doubles down when incorrect in hope that you can try and convince yourself that you're right.

I for one absolutely love it. :D:devil:
Anyone with any sense could tell that spurs were favourites for top 4 the moment they hired Conte.
 

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Conte is not a bad manager, though his main success was with Juve in what was then a one-team league. But please stop showering Conte with all those accolades, he hasn't won anything yet at Spurs. As silverware goes, Di Matteo and Arteta won trophies within five months of taking over new clubs, something Conte couldn't achieve. And yes, I absolutely and easily rate Mourinho a better manager than Conte. Just look at their silverware, Jose is miles ahead. In fact, Conte has never won anything in Europe where Mourinho has lost count of his trophies. Yes he beat City home and away but he also lost to awful opposition, including the now-relegated Burnley. It's far too early to cream off about Conte. Many questions will be answered this coming season.
700 odd posts without promotion. Here's why.
 

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Anyone with any sense could tell that spurs were favourites for top 4 the moment they hired Conte.
They really weren't.

Not in the position they were in, the bookies never had them as favourites until last few weeks.
 

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Fluking a cup won't make anyone better manager, league is always the measure of consistency and quality.

Also winning cups, Di Matteo won CL within 5 months, something Pep haven't done in last 10 years. Or Pep + Jose failed to achieve in last 10 years.
Mourinho fluking a cup? Jeez, you are unbelievable. And you say the league is the the only measure of consistency. Well then, Conte has only won 5 league titles mostly in Italy whilst Mourinho has won 8 titles across 4 major leagues. In addition, Mourinho has won at least 4 major domestic cups compared to Conte's one. And Mourinho has 6 European cups including a treble whilst Conte has nothing. So in every statistic Mourinho has performed better than Conte who can only dream of the success Mourinho has achieved. I'm not trying to dismiss Conte because, as I already said, he is a very good manager and hopefully he will achieve something with Spurs. But please don't embarrass yourself by preposterously claiming he is better than Mourinho.
 
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Mourinho fluking a cup? Jeez, you are unbelievable. And you say the league is the the only measure of consistency. We'll then, Conte has only won 5 league titles mostly in Italy whilst Mourinho has won 8 titles across 4 major leagues. In addition, Mourinho has won at least 4 major domestic cups compared to Conte's one. And Mourinho has 6 European cups including a treble whilst Conte has nothing. Conte can only dream of the success Mourinho has achieved. I'm not trying to dismiss Conte because, as I already said, he is a very good manager and hopefully he will achieve something with Spurs. But please don't embarrass yourself by claiming he is better than Mourinho.
He was obviously not talking about Jose.
This post is replying to a complete strawman. Or if you're intentionally ignoring Di Matteo then carry on.
 

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Currently Conte is better than Mourinho, but Conte is in his prime now while Mourinho is at the later stage of his career so this comparison is unfair. Comparing both at their prime though, Mourinho was the better coach, no contest. He won 2 CLs including a treble, while Conte is yet to have Any European achievement while being in his prime.
 

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In what sense is Di Matteo winning a double within a few months a fluke?
In what sense is it not?! I think his managerial exploits (or lack thereof) post Chelsea have shown him to be one of the most unlikely CL winning managers of all time.
 

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Mourinho fluking a cup? Jeez, you are unbelievable. And you say the league is the the only measure of consistency. Well then, Conte has only won 5 league titles mostly in Italy whilst Mourinho has won 8 titles across 4 major leagues. In addition, Mourinho has won at least 4 major domestic cups compared to Conte's one. And Mourinho has 6 European cups including a treble whilst Conte has nothing. So in every statistic Mourinho has performed better than Conte who can only dream of the success Mourinho has achieved. I'm not trying to dismiss Conte because, as I already said, he is a very good manager and hopefully he will achieve something with Spurs. But please don't embarrass yourself by preposterously claiming he is better than Mourinho.
I didn't say Jose fluked a cup win. It's for Di Matteo and Arteta.

Jose won 8 league titles? Great. Conte career is not done. Jose had better career than Conte but that counts for nothing if we are raring managers today and not overall. In 2022 anyone rating Jose above Conte shouldn't be taken seriously.

Don't embarrass yourself by posting without even reading the posts properly. Hint was also in second paragraph where I compared Di Matteo with Pep for CL win.