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They got him for free, he's spent 8 years of his best years there as one of their best players almost every season. But yeh, 1 year left, and they're bitching about him wanting to leave at the age of 33. Very classy Club.
You really don’t understand that Bayern takes that stance to get more money from Barca?
 

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You really don’t understand that Bayern takes that stance to get more money from Barca?
Maybe. Or they can just let go Lewa for cheaper, so Lewa can pocketing more money? SAF did this so many times to his faithful players.
I think the latter is a classy move, don't you think so?
 

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Shame he’s Barca bound. I bet he’d love to add a Europa league to his CV.
 

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You really don’t understand that Bayern takes that stance to get more money from Barca?
Don't you think it might be in Bayern's best interest to let him go? It's not really a good signal towards the team and potential signings. The situation isn't comparable to a spoilt young talent who wants to force his way out after barely being there. Lewandowski has been there for 8 years, scored hundreds of goals and won many titles for Bayern.
 

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Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, Lewandowski...must be a coincidence this is happening so often when Barca is interested in a player.

I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore.
Some weeks ago he wanted a new 3 years contract and when we only offered him 1 or 2 years (like Neuer and Müller) he refused and all of a sudden he needs to leave us immediately and it was always his big, big dream to play for Barca (after dreaming to play for Real for the last 10 years lol)

I hope we agree to sell him and Barca fails to register him due to their financial problems :)
 

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Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, Lewandowski...must be a coincidence this is happening so often when Barca is interested in a player.

I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore.
Some weeks ago he wanted a new 3 years contract and when we only offered him 1 or 2 years (like Neuer and Müller) he refused and all of a sudden he needs to leave us immediately and it was always his big, big dream to play for Barca (after dreaming to play for Real for the last 10 years lol)

I hope we agree to sell him and Barca then needs to sell Frenkie De Jong to United to register him due to their financial problems :)
Fixed :smirk:
 

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Not even Barca are really dumb enough to cash in on de Jong just to finance Lewandowksi, Alonso and Azpilicueta, are they?
All of them have probably only 2 good years left in them.
 

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Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, Lewandowski...must be a coincidence this is happening so often when Barca is interested in a player.

I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore.
Some weeks ago he wanted a new 3 years contract and when we only offered him 1 or 2 years (like Neuer and Müller) he refused and all of a sudden he needs to leave us immediately and it was always his big, big dream to play for Barca (after dreaming to play for Real for the last 10 years lol)

I hope we agree to sell him and Barca fails to register him due to their financial problems :)
C'mon, they should have offered him 2-3 years. He's like scoring 40-50 goals a season for a while now. He's no Neuer or Muller, he's your best fecking player and the club should recognize that.
Even if he's what, he's 33 now, he'd still score 30 a season until 36 in that weak-ish league with ease.

Anyway, he served your club quite well. Don't change your opinion on him because of what the media/club is reporting.
 

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I know this doesn’t really apply since he has been such a monster hit but clubs should really look closer at players who are happy to see out contracts for a move. It explains a lot about their character
 

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C'mon, they should have offered him 2-3 years. He's like scoring 40-50 goals a season for a while now. He's no Neuer or Muller, he's your best fecking player and the club should recognize that.
Even if he's what, he's 33 now, he'd still score 30 a season until 36 in that weak-ish league with ease.

Anyway, he served your club quite well. Don't change your opinion on him because of what the media/club is reporting.
The club only wants to extend contracts for players over 30 by one year. I also don't agree with that but Neuer and Müller also wanted longer extensions and didn't get them so they can't give it to Lewy only a few weeks later.

And I'm not changing my mind on him based on what the media or club is reporting. I changed my mind about him because of the last 3 or 4 interviews he gave. He wanted to extend his contract here, didn't get what he wanted and now he acts like a baby and says something "has died inside him"...


Yeah...total lack of loyalty and respect that we offered you 2 instead of 3 years and now want to keep you for the remaining duration of the contract you signed...
 

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Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, Lewandowski...must be a coincidence this is happening so often when Barca is interested in a player.

I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore.
Some weeks ago he wanted a new 3 years contract and when we only offered him 1 or 2 years (like Neuer and Müller) he refused and all of a sudden he needs to leave us immediately and it was always his big, big dream to play for Barca (after dreaming to play for Real for the last 10 years lol)

I hope we agree to sell him and Barca fails to register him due to their financial problems :)
I don't think Griezmann refused to play or train for Atletico.
 

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Yeh. A player that spend his peak 8 years at your club (played 375 games, scored 344 goals), and just want to leave at age 33 with 1 year left on contract for his last hurrah.
Fan(s) suddenly thought "I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore."

Classy fans of a classy Club.
 

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I know this doesn’t really apply since he has been such a monster hit but clubs should really look closer at players who are happy to see out contracts for a move. It explains a lot about their character
What does it explains?
 

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I know this doesn’t really apply since he has been such a monster hit but clubs should really look closer at players who are happy to see out contracts for a move. It explains a lot about their character
Maybe clubs should stop asking for the sun and the moon as a transfer fee when players want out then. Players wouldn’t have to run down their contracts if clubs let them go for fair prices.
 

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The club only wants to extend contracts for players over 30 by one year. I also don't agree with that but Neuer and Müller also wanted longer extensions and didn't get them so they can't give it to Lewy only a few weeks later.

And I'm not changing my mind on him based on what the media or club is reporting. I changed my mind about him because of the last 3 or 4 interviews he gave. He wanted to extend his contract here, didn't get what he wanted and now he acts like a baby and says something "has died inside him"...


Yeah...total lack of loyalty and respect that we offered you 2 instead of 3 years and now want to keep you for the remaining duration of the contract you signed...
I wonder what your reaction would be after seeing the club side of this. Given you only see what he said.

Added to that, I don't agree to the fake bs Kahn and the other Bayern officials have been spouting recently, constantly insisting that he stays when he already asked in public he wants to leave. They're only concerned about their precious business image.

I've worked in business my whole life and I will never side with the business, especially in this media driven age.
 

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And FDJ is probably considering NOT show up for Barca pre season camp if they keep threatening to sell him to us.
 

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What does it explains?
They’ll find a way to get the move that they want. Juve suffered this when they signed a bunch of free signings that everybody claimed was smart business only to see them lumbered with players who were happy to sit in the bench when not wanted.
Barca will have the same problems 18 months down the line. It’s hard to offload players when they get big wages for coming in on frees when you want to sell for an actual transfer fee and expect the player to accept less money. It’s the same principle as the situation we’re in with Martial.
 

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Yeh. A player that spend his peak 8 years at your club (played 375 games, scored 344 goals), and just want to leave at age 33 with 1 year left on contract for his last hurrah.
Fan(s) suddenly thought "I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore."

Classy fans of a classy Club.
feck off with that, it's not AT ALL about him wanting to leave, and you know that. It's about the whole shit show he and his manager are producing right now.

Here, look at my first post in this thread AFTER it was said he wants to leave but BEFORE this whole bullshit started: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/robert-lewandowski.464869/page-4#post-28875432
 

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feck off with that, it's not AT ALL about him wanting to leave, and you know that. It's about the whole shit show he and his manager are producing right now.

Here, look at my first post in this thread AFTER it was said he wants to leave but BEFORE this whole bullshit started: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/robert-lewandowski.464869/page-4#post-28875432
Yeh. Your Club just don't want to let him go for cheap and potentially jeopardize his move. (I stand corrected. He's 34 y.o. this August). It's potentially his last hurrah of his career, where other Club agreed to give him a longer contract that your Club is not willing to give. But what do your Club do? Try to squeeze every penny off that Club he prefers.

If this makes you turn your opinion of him instead of your Club, what else can i say.
 

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They’ll find a way to get the move that they want. Juve suffered this when they signed a bunch of free signings that everybody claimed was smart business only to see them lumbered with players who were happy to sit in the bench when not wanted.
Barca will have the same problems 18 months down the line. It’s hard to offload players when they get big wages for coming in on frees when you want to sell for an actual transfer fee and expect the player to accept less money. It’s the same principle as the situation we’re in with Martial.
That makes no sense. What you described applies to any player that has a large contract or doesn't get offers from clubs that he wants to join, regardless of whether they were "free" or not. And clubs have no obligation to offer large contracts, they chose to and pay the consequences if it doesn't work, they also reap the benefits when it does.
 

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Yeh. A player that spend his peak 8 years at your club (played 375 games, scored 344 goals), and just want to leave at age 33 with 1 year left on contract for his last hurrah.
Fan(s) suddenly thought "I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore."

Classy fans of a classy Club.
A contract is a contract though - I don't see why Bayern is a douchebag club for fulfilling a contract. Its why you offer a big wage in the first place, so you get many good years out of a player. It comes with the expectation of living up to that contract
 

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A contract is a contract though - I don't see why Bayern is a douchebag club for fulfilling a contract. Its why you offer a big wage in the first place, so you get many good years out of a player. It comes with the expectation of living up to that contract
Pretty much. It works both ways, clubs shouldn't expect more than the term of the contract and players shouldn't expect to be able to leave easily before the end date of a contract they agreed upon. But in the case of Lewandowski Bayern don't really have a strong case, Lewandowski can unilaterally buy his last year. So it's best for both parties to find an amicable arrangement.
 

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That makes no sense. What you described applies to any player that has a large contract or doesn't get offers from clubs that he wants to join, regardless of whether they were "free" or not. And clubs have no obligation to offer large contracts, they chose to and pay the consequences if it doesn't work, they also reap the benefits when it does.
No, I’m taking about players who have already shown they are happy to stay still and see out contracts. Shock, horror, these player are hard to move when the next club doesn’t want them. Aaron Ramsey is example number one for this. I don’t know why you’re so argumentative here, I never claimed anybody was in the wrong. I’m saying these types of players should have this factored in when assessing a transfer.
Offer Salah 400k a week for a free transfer and world class quality and see where he is in 3 years. I’ll bet you right now it’s on a bench being stubborn for a move .
 

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Don't you think it might be in Bayern's best interest to let him go? It's not really a good signal towards the team and potential signings. The situation isn't comparable to a spoilt young talent who wants to force his way out after barely being there. Lewandowski has been there for 8 years, scored hundreds of goals and won many titles for Bayern.
I am all for selling him, if he wants to leave. He has left a legacy and deserves to be treated fairly.

However, I do take offense to him giving these interviews and pretending that Barca is his dream club. And he feels not valued since Bayern inquired about Haaland? Well, he was talking to Barca at the same time.
I would have expected this behavior from his agent but not from him. That is, what disturbs me.

I do expect Bayern to sell (and I am in support of it) but not to be forced by him to let him go for peanuts either.
 

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Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann, Lewandowski...must be a coincidence this is happening so often when Barca is interested in a player.

I really don't want to see Lewy at our club anymore.
Some weeks ago he wanted a new 3 years contract and when we only offered him 1 or 2 years (like Neuer and Müller) he refused and all of a sudden he needs to leave us immediately and it was always his big, big dream to play for Barca (after dreaming to play for Real for the last 10 years lol)

I hope we agree to sell him and Barca fails to register him due to their financial problems :)
Dembele did the same to join Dortmund. He doesn't need to do it anymore because he will leave for free this year.
Barça was ready to pay Griezmann's release clause (finally done) and the frenchman only wanted to do it "friendly", as it is the general rule in Spanish football. He was leaving for granted. So it is a stupid example.

Barça has signed dozens of players the last decade (most of them bad signings). If that's the best you can find...

Btw, I don't think it makes sense for us to spend 30 millions or whatever on a 30+ years old striker.
 

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No, I’m taking about players who have already shown they are happy to stay still and see out contracts. Shock, horror, these player are hard to move when the next club doesn’t want them. Aaron Ramsey is example number one for this. I don’t know why you’re so argumentative here, I never claimed anybody was in the wrong. I’m saying these types of players should have this factored in when assessing a transfer.
Offer Salah 400k a week for a free transfer and world class quality and see where he is in 3 years. I’ll bet you right now it’s on a bench being stubborn for a move .
I know this doesn’t really apply since he has been such a monster hit but clubs should really look closer at players who are happy to see out contracts for a move. It explains a lot about their character
You don't know why I'm asking you to explain the bold sentence? What does it explains about their character? In fact I will add an other question, where are these players supposed to go if the next club doesn't want them?
 

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Pretty much. It works both ways, clubs shouldn't expect more than the term of the contract and players shouldn't expect to be able to leave easily before the end date of a contract they agreed upon. But in the case of Lewandowski Bayern don't really have a strong case, Lewandowski can unilaterally buy his last year. So it's best for both parties to find an amicable arrangement.
Didnt know the last part - so how much would that cost him?
 

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Didnt know the last part - so how much would that cost him?
In theory around the worth of the last year of his contract, so whatever he currently earns for next year.
 

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I am all for selling him, if he wants to leave. He has left a legacy and deserves to be treated fairly.

However, I do take offense to him giving these interviews and pretending that Barca is his dream club. And he feels not valued since Bayern inquired about Haaland? Well, he was talking to Barca at the same time.
I would have expected this behavior from his agent but not from him. That is, what disturbs me.

I do expect Bayern to sell (and I am in support of it) but not to be forced by him to let him go for peanuts either.
I agree that Lewa's comments are a bit silly and made up nonsense. Still, I wouldn't get so worked up as long as these comments only happen in the transfer period. Both sides strengthen their position and that's fairly normal. Hopefully he can leave, but otherwise all can be forgotten if everyone acts professionally once the season starts.
The only party that annoys me a bit is Barcelona. I am okay with Barca making questionable financial decisions to fund their players, but please just start talking to the players once you really have the necessary money. Turning a player's head with a bigger/longer contract before having the money for an appropriate transfer fee is dick-move.
 

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I can understand being wrong and unfair with this take but I just can't shake the feeling of Lewandowski being a bit of a drama queen here.
 

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I am all for selling him, if he wants to leave. He has left a legacy and deserves to be treated fairly.

However, I do take offense to him giving these interviews and pretending that Barca is his dream club. And he feels not valued since Bayern inquired about Haaland? Well, he was talking to Barca at the same time.
I would have expected this behavior from his agent but not from him. That is, what disturbs me.

I do expect Bayern to sell (and I am in support of it) but not to be forced by him to let him go for peanuts either.
It seems as if this is more of a personal thing. He is obviously really offended by how he was treated. It's also noteworthy that there are quite a few Bayern players and representatives who were/are also very disappointed, namely Flick, Klose, Alaba, Gnabry, Süle, ... Busser also just made a step downwards to Dortmund without need. So chances are it's not just the Haaland talks. Especially since Lewandowski never did something like that before, even in comparable situations.

I think everybody would understand that you're not letting him leave for peanuts. But it rather seems like you want to keep him against his will - and that's not really a good image when the player in question is undeniably a club legend.
 

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Betting he’ll come up with some sort of ‘being a slave’ or ‘being held hostage” soon enough :lol:

Very curious about going to Barca though. I am not sure if they can compete with Real over the next 2 seasons? He could have his pick of clubs across all leagues.
 

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The only thing naysayers say about Lewandowski these days is the Bundesliga thing. Even when you show them that he has the best CL ratio, they say "We want to see him in PL/LL".

If Lewandowski comes to LL and bangs them in, he will be one of the only strikers who have proven it comprehensively on every stage/kind of environment. That will automatically emhance his legacy further.

About his Bayern legacy, he's a forward who holds all time scoring records in the league and was amazing at the 2 biggest German clubs. Some fans moaning about him won't change his legacy which is set in stone now.

It'll all be cool after a few months.
Not true at all. Aubamayang has also done very well in LL. For Lewa it will be CL or bust, hence why he didn't win 2021 Ballon D'or. He needs meaningful trophies (and yes, copa >>> Bundesliga no matter how you may try to twist it). He's an amazing player absolutely, but if he's coming to Barca to win ballon d'or at this point he'll need to at least make a CL semi-final and have them neck and neck with Madrid (I hope it happens) for him to have a chance. He still had a good season this year, but knocked out by Villarreal and people don't take anything he does outside of CL seriously due to Bundesliga's lopsided-ness.
 

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I don’t think Bayern fans have realized they are on the wrong side of this one. It probably hurts because of how much they have enjoyed his time as a player, but a legend, at 33 years old, wanting one last challenge? It should be an amicable thank you and working towards an agreement.

I think it lacks class after everything he has done for the club. The irony of the situation is that Liverpool have stayed relatively quiet and are working towards doing what their own legend, in Mane, wants for a reasonable fee…to get to Bayern!
 

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Not true at all. Aubamayang has also done very well in LL. For Lewa it will be CL or bust, hence why he didn't win 2021 Ballon D'or. He needs meaningful trophies (and yes, copa >>> Bundesliga no matter how you may try to twist it). He's an amazing player absolutely, but if he's coming to Barca to win ballon d'or at this point he'll need to at least make a CL semi-final and have them neck and neck with Madrid (I hope it happens) for him to have a chance. He still had a good season this year, but knocked out by Villarreal and people don't take anything he does outside of CL seriously due to Bundesliga's lopsided-ness.
Who said anything about the Ballon d or here?

I said if he bangs them in La Liga people won't give the "not performed in the top 2 league" excuse.

The Copa thing is your opinion. I disagree. It's a 10 team tournament which was held something 4 times in a span of 6 years. A portion of Brazil fans were cheering for the opponent in the final. Should have won the Copa long long back.
 

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The way Lewandowski is talking and behaving is the way some people would have you think Pogba had spoken in his 6 year spell.

This is what ‘trying to force a move’ looks like.
 

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Really? We can't keep kicking the can down the road and letting aged stars come here for their last big payday. It isn't a sustainable way to squad build and we've done it far too much in recent years. Up front alone we've had Falcao, Ibrahimović, Cavani, and now Ronaldo. That's 4 old megastars on major money in the space of 8 or so seasons. It works if you've got a squad that is ready to challenge for honours that needs an accomplished cherry on top, like City or Fergie's United, but we obviously don't. We are starting from scratch and building something for the long-term, so our recruitment should reflect that. No more short-term stopgaps.
If we find this younger player who is good enough and wants to come, then fine. I'm not sure that's happening or that such a person is available. Not sure we are going to win the race for Nunez, or how good he is. Lewandowski could fill the gap if we don't find someone - we cannot go into another season without a recognised No.9; Ronaldo is many things but not that
 
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