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The Americans love it though, the more they talk about money and how much his brand is worth the more it will appeal to those on the other side of the Atlantic
Not really. We love to trash overpaid/underachieving players.
 

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I honestly had the feeling he semi retired after winning the World Cup. He can paint himself as one of those unlucky few to never win a CL, like Zlatan, but without the ability or work ethic. His brand went into overdrive and he just wants to be rich and famous now with as little effort as possible.
An Instagram footballer.
 

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Claimed his next move was all about "the project" but wants to make united regret making their "nothing" contract offer, yeah it was about the project......haha.

I read that he fell out with mourinho because he decided to usual trips with his wife to dubai whilst injured and mourinho wanted to know why he had gone on holiday whilst everyone else was busting a gut at Carrington and tried to portray himself as hard done.

The documentary does his no favours in terms of integrity, gotta say screw ole for constantly giving pogba the green light to take holiday trips abroad when he had another one his "lengthy injuries".
 

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He probably peaked as a player at 22. We thought we were getting a guy who would continue to develop, probably mature into a more rounded midfield player, but his first couple of years is probably the best he is.
 

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The Americans love it though, the more they talk about money and how much his brand is worth the more it will appeal to those on the other side of the Atlantic
Sternly disagree and find this view very out of touch.
 

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He probably peaked as a player at 22. We thought we were getting a guy who would continue to develop, probably mature into a more rounded midfield player, but his first couple of years is probably the best he is.
The crazy thing is he seemed to want to become a more rounded player. Until he decided that would be too much hard work. I still remember his interview with Thierry Henry just after signing for us. Said he wanted to be an all round midfielder who could do everything. 5 years later he’s conceding stupid penalties and saying “oh well, I’m not able to tackle anyway”. A central midfielder who never learned to tackle. Ridiculous.
 

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The crazy thing is he seemed to want to become a more rounded player. Until he decided that would be too much hard work. I still remember his interview with Thierry Henry just after signing for us. Said he wanted to be an all round midfielder who could do everything. 5 years later he’s conceding stupid penalties and saying “oh well, I’m not able to tackle anyway”. A central midfielder who can’t tackle. Ridiculous.
Maybe too many people telling him the same things that were constantly repeated on here about needing his ideal position, left of a midfield 3 with a specific players around him, replicating his Juve role.

What are the chances that Juve just miraculously landed on the ideal combination of role, system and teammates to ideally fit Pogba, and it wasn't a hungry player desperate to prove a point that made the key difference.
 

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He didn't feel loved at United - says it in the first 10 mins of the documentary.

"Here I had, like, to do something... I came back from injury, they didn't help me, they weren't, like... they didn't care how I was feeling it - so I had to national team to get my confidence back."

I mean... reading a quote like that from a youngster, new in the team, would make my blood boil if he didn't feel the club cared enough... But a 28-year old Paul Pogba on the biggest wages? FFS, can't you pull yourself up at that point? Maybe I'm too oldschool and everyone should feel loved and accepted regardless of wages or sums, but I really, really, expect more on the psychological side from our senior players than them being grumpy that we didn't hug them enough.
 

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He probably peaked as a player at 22. We thought we were getting a guy who would continue to develop, probably mature into a more rounded midfield player, but his first couple of years is probably the best he is.
He really did, he played with flair and showed some special stuff. Likely the period where he played with the best functioning team/midfield? Later years he had less flair, seemed a lot slower and was injured more often. Curious to see how he will be at his new club.
 

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Just went to watch this, it's all in French? Feck that
 

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Maybe too many people telling him the same things that were constantly repeated on here about needing his ideal position, left of a midfield 3 with a specific players around him, replicating his Juve role.
For me that was always the only role he was ever going to be genuinely "world class" in.

And even in that role, probably not consistently (as he blew hot and cold for Juventus too).

We never had the players to accommodate him in his best role (only in flashes).

And then - you could add - we never had the players to accommodate him in his France role either. But both Mourinho and Ole more often than not insisted on using him in that role - or something like it.

Ole explicitly stated that he wanted to build the team around Pogba as a CM/playmaker (as part of a double pivot). I never understood that. He's never been good enough in that role to build a team around him - nowhere close.
 

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Ok just watched it, theres about 15 mins interesting stuff across 5 episodes. Mainly about his family and his brand. Yes his family/entourage all bigging him up saying he belongs in America

Interesting about the Mourinho bit, he cant understand why he is being questioned. Basically he needs to rehab in Miami/Dubai as it makes him happy. He actually says he is different to the other players to Mourinho
 

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He didn't feel loved at United - says it in the first 10 mins of the documentary.

"Here I had, like, to do something... I came back from injury, they didn't help me, they weren't, like... they didn't care how I was feeling it - so I had to national team to get my confidence back."

I mean... reading a quote like that from a youngster, new in the team, would make my blood boil if he didn't feel the club cared enough... But a 28-year old Paul Pogba on the biggest wages? FFS, can't you pull yourself up at that point? Maybe I'm too oldschool and everyone should feel loved and accepted regardless of wages or sums, but I really, really, expect more on the psychological side from our senior players than them being grumpy that we didn't hug them enough.
He is surrounded with YES people.Reality will him hit hard when he retires and became irelevant and YES people move to another cash cow.
 

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He lives in all your heads rent free doesn't he? It's funny reading some of these comments

What does he care if you watch or not

Stop opening forums about the guy, you wanted him gone, he's done that but you can't stop talking about him

Sad really
 

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Pogmentary ?? .jesus fecking christ. if only his talent was as good as his ego he’d be besting fecking Maradona and Messi..and it’s actually a shame as I had such high hopes for him when he returned.
 

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The man’s vermin. Glad he’s out of this circus, just a few more performers to move on….
 

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He lives in all your heads rent free doesn't he? It's funny reading some of these comments

What does he care if you watch or not

Stop opening forums about the guy, you wanted him gone, he's done that but you can't stop talking about him

Sad really
You expect United fans not to comment on a "Pogmentary" in which he comments (pogments, I mean) on very recent developments (pogvelopments) that transpired (pogspired) while he was still a United player (poglayer...no, that really doesn't work)?

I mean - "rent free" and whatnot? It's been five minutes.

(That said, we'll probably be talking about him a year from now too - so yeah, but at least save this sort of comment for when that happens.)
 

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the very fact that there is a "Pogmentary" (dear god ...) tells you everything you need to know about him. Brand > football for him, always.

every time I'm depressed about the current affairs at Man United, I remember that this absolute clown is no longer at the club and it brightens my day. Good riddance.
 

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Not planning to watch it but some of the quotes from this thing seem incredible tone deaf and he somehow thought it was a good idea or would portrait him in a good light? Maybe he just has too big of a ego and doesn't give a feck what anyone thinks about him as long as he's rich and famous.
 

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So, a virus then. Not a Jose fan of any sort but seems a fair assessment now. £300k a week is ‘nothing’…. Just wow. Hope no one watches his shitty documentary,
 

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Only seen ep 1, don't think I'll watch any more as it's quite dull. But based on just this episode, he seemed quite level headed and even respectful of us and in particular the city of Manchester.
 

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He lives in all your heads rent free doesn't he? It's funny reading some of these comments

What does he care if you watch or not

Stop opening forums about the guy, you wanted him gone, he's done that but you can't stop talking about him

Sad really
says the guy in a Pogba thread
 

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Absolutely. Which big coach would accept being away in another country thousands of miles way for months as the club still keep paying the wages. The sad part is that, he still think what he did was right.
He was in Dubai under Ole and RR made him come back
 

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To be fair I don't think the suggestion was that he'd fall into the abyss. The poster probably likely meant that in 10-15 years there will be a lot of other midfielders who are genuinely world class and would have achieved the same or more at club if not just national level.
The way the caf moves so quickly these days - there’ll be a thread in 5 years:
‘Who was better, Pogba or Jordan Henderson’ and I guarantee Henderson will win because he won better trophies.

In 10 years:
‘Pogba vs Dier’

In 15 years:
‘Pogba vs Noble’
 

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I don't know why this is lost on people - he's not saying 300k is nothing, he's saying the 10k raise from the 290k he was on is nothing.

Putting it in context, its about a 3% increment - I don't think anyone would seriously consider a 3% pay raise as substantial.
If I went missing for half the year I wouldn't be expecting a payrise from my boss. He's deluded.