Sorry but the difference between Ronaldo and Martial is way bigger than Neres and Antony.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Not angry just disappointed. Like to point out the ridiculousness.Why are you always so angry
I just don't understand why we take a shite on our own team so much @golden_blunder said it best: \
Doesn't mean Edwards wasn't more competent. Not saying Murtough and Arnold aren't but the jury is still well and truly out and so far it's not looking very good.
There is always risk. He could break his leg. Of course he could also turn into absolute garbage. But thats worst case scenario that's not likely at all. Antony has shown his quality since he arrived and is the best winger the Dutch league has seen in a very long time. Some players have stats that make them look better, for Antony the stats make it look worse than he is. Gakpo from PSV has better stats, but Antony is the better player for sure.
Why?
Because ETH has clearly stated (from the outside looking in) he wants FDJ done and over the line before going after anyone else? FDJ is vital to the way that ETH wants the team to play and it's clear from the outside looking in, it's he who he wants and no one else.
Once that's done, I would be very surprised if deals for Antony and co take as long. They'll fall like dominos.
Plus as I said yesterday, the rest of the deals hang on the FDJ deal. Whatever money is left after that will be all we have left to spend on others. If we were to get the others before getting in FDJ, we may not have enough budget left for FDJ and that won't be good either.
Just have some patience!
Yeah - still believe we’ll sign De Jong at the very least. I mean if we screw that up, our executive team should be fired on the spot.
Not sure where Eriksen’s head is at. Hopefully he chooses us.
Still holding on to hope we’ll sign one of the Ajax lads. Probably Martinez for 40-50 Mn. And sign that lad from Derby on a free for the right wing instead of Antony (if Ajax stick to this crazy valuation).
While this is true, Dortmund for instance went from 108 million to 72 million for Sancho, who is in my opinion a bigger talent with better stats.
Not saying Antony won’t work out or he will definitely go for less, but it’s no sure fire thing he’s going to fetch them a Nunez level fee.
All speculation at this point. What I see is that we start pre season in 5 days and have 0 new faces for a squad full of holes. Not ideal by any means.
Dafuq, I'm questioning Hag more than Murtough and our new set-up. Can you read ?
Sob story excuse on the eve of the season presser.
One thing I like about Antony is that he could hold the width while the right back tucked which would suit Dalot. But if we can't get Antony then a right back is an absolute necessity now because none of our right backs are good out wide
Let’s go for Felix instead if we’re even thinking about getting anywhere near the 80m mark (which I doubt we are!)
I am not saying its a certainty but its also not out of the cards at all. Antony really is a potential star. Whether that will come to fruition next season or it takes longer remains to be seen. Ajax have sold defensive minded players like De Jong and De Ligt for 70-80m. Attackers are always much more expensive. Obviously they came off an incredible CL run, but with another CL coming up and a WC where is in serious contention for a starting place it is anything but unthinkable that he can catch the same hype train in the next 12 months. If he does, Ajax can sell him for record prices. If he does just retains his level without shooting off to mars, then Ajax can still get €55-60m. Therefore it makes no sense for Ajax to sell at that value right now. Ajax wants his quality on the pitch and there's a potential moonshot in his value in the next 12 months.
Agreed. I think De Jong will happen eventually and I'll be feeling relieved rather than joyous. Eriksen appears to be very 50/50. I'm not sure the supposed €50m it would take to get Martinez is that off putting. Even if it is, we could sign Pau Torres for a similar fee. The price for Antony is definitely prohibitive. I don't see too many alternatives to him. I assume Moussa Diaby would be valued similarly. The kid from Derby looks an interesting prospect, but won't be making much of an impact next season I'd imagine.
And when is that getting done ? You don’t know, right ? Nobody knows. So until then we aren’t getting anyone as you said. This thought process that we would get it done once FDJ happens is amazing as if everything would pan out accordingly to us once FDJ happens as if we dictate everything because as of now it’s not going to the plan. They thought they would get de Jong by now. It’s still nowhere close. So don’t get surprised the same happens in other transfers when they quote ridiculous prices as it’s now happening with Antony. The more we shop late in the window the more the other teams would know about our desperation. This sheer arrogance and utter stupidity that we would all get it done once FDJ signs and leaving until late in the window is just history repeating itself, nothing more.
Wasn’t there a link couple of months ago that we were interested in Bergwijn and now Ajax wants to sign him? He’s likely going to be Anothy’s replacement isn’t he?
You’d imagine so
Bergwijn isn't going to be an Antony replacement or at least that's not why they are going to buy him.
Ajax graduates only.
Come back to me when the season starts and we'll see if this is "arrogance"
If not, I'll gladly eat humble pie.
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Yesterday it broke that we were close to signing him and our people were flying out to Amsterdam today. Translated to United “next month this will still be a will they won’t they story”
Our right wing is non-existant to be fair.
Greenwood is gone. Looks like Sancho will find a home on the left.
The only left footed player who plays RW we have is a kid in Amad who will likely be loaned again.
We've left ourselves so many holes in the team it's difficult to prioritise to be fair. Certainly not a case that we don't need attacking players, we need both a striker and right winger. It just so happens our midfield and defence is also dreadful.
So according to the tweet you posted we haven’t even decided which players we are gonna sign ? Or did I read that wrong ? Genuinely asking.
Saw two games, and it sickens me to see players performing these theatrics, pretending he has been elbowed, rolling about, trying to get opponents sent off.
If that's ok for you, then that's absolutely fine, but he seems like a bit of c*nt to me..
One thing that I did like, he chased an opponent back, and got in a good tackle to win possession, we don't usually see much of that in these parts.
On top of this though, I don't think he is a million miles different or better than what we currently have, at least not enough to possibly be overlooking signing more defensive players for.
If we had already signed 2 in Midfield, a RB and a CB, then perhaps a different story.
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It's like we're trading in tickets for prizes at Dave and Busters.
Just that we have a set budget we can spend (without accounting for outgoings) - so depending on what amount we end up spending on FDJ (priority), this will determine how much we’re able to spend on others - which probably means opting for options b/c in other positions as they’ll cost less than option a, as an example.
We are utter shit at transfers aren't we, clubs always want to sell to us for top dollar, we are suffering from those quotes Ed Woodward made years ago about us doing incredible things in the market.
Yep, before that, we could have fooled every club into believing Manchester United had no money.
Give them 110m plus Donny for all 3.
Gotcha. Thanks.
What do you mean? As 18 year olds without hindsight, as 24 year olds without hindsight, or overall careers so far?
As 18 year olds Martial looked like he’d deliver more where it matters, whereas Ronaldo was undoubtedly more flamboyant, but they were both similar prospects.
Obviously as the years went by, one exceeded all expectations and the other failed on his early promise
Has a Dutch Manager ever won the PL?
look, I like ETH but he’s demanding that we spend £75M or most of our budget on a player not proven in the PL, he got outdone by Pochetino whose own stock is on the slide in a Champions league Semi Final and falls into the level just below Elite or Worlds Best Managers.
The Club apparently has been quoted £75M for FDJ, £69M for Antony, 53M for J Timber, no disrespect here but none of them are proven in the PL and our primary directive is that we need to improve in the PL, maybe Murtogh and Fletcher are being vigilant and doing their due diligence.
Let’s face it for £207M we could get the following who are all premier league proven;
S Johnstone or N Pope - Free or 10M
T Lamptey -£25M
W Foffana , E Konsi Or M Guehi £45-65M
W Ndidi or N Kante £25M
C Erikssen or Y Tielemans - Free or £35M
J Bowen or Raphina - £50M
I Toney or D Ings - £40M or £25M
This window could be the start of yet another terrible mundane transfer window for the board, the Glaziers are playing Russian roulette with a new dynamic manager who will soon find out that this club have always been a disaster in the transfer window since David Gill and Sir Alex left.
look, I like ETH but he’s demanding that we spend £75M or most of our budget on a player not proven in the PL, he got outdone by Pochetino whose own stock is on the slide in a Champions league Semi Final and falls into the level just below Elite or Worlds Best Managers.
The Club apparently has been quoted £75M for FDJ, £69M for Antony, 53M for J Timber, no disrespect here but none of them are proven in the PL and our primary directive is that we need to improve in the PL, maybe Murtogh and Fletcher are being vigilant and doing their due diligence.
Let’s face it for £207M we could get the following who are all premier league proven;
S Johnstone or N Pope - Free or 10M
T Lamptey -£25M
W Foffana , E Konsi Or M Guehi £45-65M
W Ndidi or N Kante £25M
C Erikssen or Y Tielemans - Free or £35M
J Bowen or Raphina - £50M
I Toney or D Ings - £40M or £25M
This window could be the start of yet another terrible mundane transfer window for the board, the Glaziers are playing Russian roulette with a new dynamic manager who will soon find out that this club have always been a disaster in the transfer window since David Gill and Sir Alex left.
Not this again. Come on. I don’t know why you making that point is of any relevance to your post.
Can he play on the left
Half of our team can play on the left. Why do you want him to play on the left ? We are already Beyoncé fc at this point “to the left to the left, everybody in our team plays on the left.”
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@FrankDrebin Why are you holding back? Don’t be shy. Say it.
“Ten Hag OUT”
Nail your colours to the mast. You don’t have to tiptoe around it. It’s just a football forum.
“Ten Hag OUT”
Nail your colours to the mast. You don’t have to tiptoe around it. It’s just a football forum.
Yeah I am trying to adopt this mindset
Yeah having holes in the first XI at RB, DM, CM, RW and ST is utterly shocking
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