Anyone know what ‘rape culture’ is or an example of it is?
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Not sure if it's what he meant, but in my mind is about how you trivialize certain behaviors, like saying "yeah of course she wants it, look at how she's dressed".
Throw Brett Kavanaugh in there too. They don't believe sexual assault should be a crime.
I remember a rape being called "20 minutes of action" in a letter to the judge by Brock Turner's father. It didn't matter to him that his son was caught raping an unconscious woman that he dragged behind a dumpster.
I'd forgotten about that. That letter was sickening.
You’d just bet the guy is a douche simply by his first name alone.
Never heard of that letter before. I can see where Brock gets his cuntishness.
Never heard of that letter before. I can see where Brock gets his cuntishness.
I see a particular poster has gone from being a nightmare in the Amber Heard thread to being a nightmare in this thread 
I’m intrigued. I’ve assiduously stayed out of the Amber Heard thread & there’s quite a few nightmare posters in this one.I see a particular poster has gone from being a nightmare in the Amber Heard thread to being a nightmare in this thread
Well, we all know if these promiscuous debauchees weren't out there getting raped and were instead respecting the sanctity of the nuclear family this whole abortion thing would be a minor issue and the daft, feckless women need to be guided in that direction by legislation and being taught to be chaste by those who know better. Or somesuch.
I think quite probably the worst post I've seen on here is in this thread.
Don’t doubt it. There have been some doozies.
Honestly, most of my best memories are about casual sex and promiscuity.
I'm happily married now, but I will definitly advise my children to be young and stupid before getting married.
I'm happily married now, but I will definitly advise my children to be young and stupid before getting married.
The arrogance of some of these views, it's so depressing. To not only believe some of this bile but to also assume the right to legislatively foist it onto everyone else irrespective of the popular opinion, or indeed science.
Genuinely sickening what's happening in the US and also much closer to home, particularly here in NI.
Camp A: it's complicated and therefore up to a point people should be able to choose, ensuring, as much as is possible, the safety of everyone.
Camp B: Na we're right you're wrong and it's going to be our way.
Genuinely sickening what's happening in the US and also much closer to home, particularly here in NI.
Camp A: it's complicated and therefore up to a point people should be able to choose, ensuring, as much as is possible, the safety of everyone.
Camp B: Na we're right you're wrong and it's going to be our way.
You forgot Camp C, the people who have nothing to do on a sunday afternoon so just go for an abortion.
God damned tinder.
I'd love to know how promiscuity leads to long term mental issues and where you learned that.
This is a pretty good point, albeit not really about abortion as you say.
Right!?!? How are me and the boys gonna have time for golf now that our wives / girlfriends / hookups aren’t popping down to the Planned Parenthood every weekend?
Becoming more confident than I had been in my early 20s and thus more promiscuous in my 30s was great for my mental health I have to say.
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I assumed it was a man who'd said it before I read the twitter thread. WTF
Last time I heard this shit, it was the idiot male in Missouri.
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Todd Akin, that’s the name.
From his local maulvi.
That set of quotes. fecking hell. Infuriating.
Seriously can't believe that Texas has ban on abortion after 6 weeks. Do these pro life nutjobs believe that life begins immediately after a condom breaks or something? Women often don't even know they are pregnant at that point so, it seems unbelievably cruel to force them to carry a baby to term. Also, the earliest point a fetus can be considered sentient is at 18-21 so, I'm okay with reducing the 24 week mark on roe v wade to that point.
Sentient in this context means response to stimulation. That in no way means there is a functioning brain and connection to the brain at that stage. The former will be 30 weeks at the earliest and the later about 24 weeks at the earliest.
Yes but there is at least some merit in arguing that there is some form of life there if there is response to stimulation. Anything before that can simply be considered non living so Texas law make zero sense.
Basically.
These same republicans that appear to want to save human life at conception, are the same that want to protect the right to bear arms, not realising that this right is in turn killing innocent people.
You really couldn't make this crap up.
Woman have the right to choose.
You really couldn't make this crap up.
Woman have the right to choose.
The majority of female adults that I have spoken to are appalled and scared of the decision made by SCOTUS. They feel violated and their safety and general freedom of choice has clearly been compromised.
Then I've heard the other side, males. It's really interesting how some bring government into the discussion first and human welfare second. It's the duty of the federal government and government overall to ensure civilians can live in a safe environment and be protected at all times, for the most part.
Meanwhile, I'm thinking about this....how many Americans heavily opposed a mandatory Covid vaccination because they were being forced to get it and it infringed on their rights. Baseline argument was that the government was highly encouraging folks to do something medical related, if not demand that they do it. And those folks didn't like it all. So what's the difference between having the choice for that and then 'celebrating' the loss of the right to choose for approximately half the country on another medical related issue?
I know the techincal laws and issues of Roe v Wade had to do with right to privacy/privacy issues. And so when there's something that broad where conservative and progressive/liberal types can debate, it was always "just a matter of time". And further proof that Trump's time as president will continue to divide and erode the United States, leaving it up to a handful of states and cities to strike a balance of conservative/progressive/liberal.
Then I've heard the other side, males. It's really interesting how some bring government into the discussion first and human welfare second. It's the duty of the federal government and government overall to ensure civilians can live in a safe environment and be protected at all times, for the most part.
Meanwhile, I'm thinking about this....how many Americans heavily opposed a mandatory Covid vaccination because they were being forced to get it and it infringed on their rights. Baseline argument was that the government was highly encouraging folks to do something medical related, if not demand that they do it. And those folks didn't like it all. So what's the difference between having the choice for that and then 'celebrating' the loss of the right to choose for approximately half the country on another medical related issue?
I know the techincal laws and issues of Roe v Wade had to do with right to privacy/privacy issues. And so when there's something that broad where conservative and progressive/liberal types can debate, it was always "just a matter of time". And further proof that Trump's time as president will continue to divide and erode the United States, leaving it up to a handful of states and cities to strike a balance of conservative/progressive/liberal.
I've also read somewhere that there are laws in some US states where you can effectively murder someone if you believe that they are threatening the life of a third party and this law can be twisted by right wing mobs to stop pregnant women from crossing borders to into blue states at gunpoint in the name of protecting the life of the unborn baby.
How the hell can someone like Laurence Lockman get into a position of power…
Reasonable belief of immanent death or great bodily harm is the standard. To yourself or another in all states, damage to property also in Texas.
By the nature of your scenario abortion would be legal in the state and the murder trial jurisdiction would be the blue state so obviously would be facing life in prison.
In red states I would imagine that the courts will decide that insofar as they have an interest in the life of the fetus its unreasonable to kill the pregnant woman. Doubly so since it would also terminate the fetus.
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Wow. There are just scarier and scarier levels to this.
Maybe I'm being naive but there isn't anyone stupid enough to think killing the person that has a baby in their womb will somehow save said baby's life, is there?
At that stage it's just someone that was hellbent on killing someone
I think the worrying part is that they get away after doing that on a technicality (although a bit far fetched but probably not impossible).
America is becoming an increasingly undesirable place, though is anybody surprised? I take it Biden cant just sign an Executive order on this? It just reinforces how religion and religious views should have no place in government.
The idea of banning abortions outright is ludicrous. Some people are not fit, or not ready to be parents. I was one of them many years ago. It would have screwed mine and the mother's life up, and I haven't seen her in years. How would life be for that kid now? How many kids will be brought into messed up, unprepared situations and grow up to be another burden or victim of society?
If they wanted to pander to the religious right they should have just lowered the time limit. 15 weeks is pushing it but really a woman should know something is going on after 4 months of pregnancy. The 20 week scan would have been a better point.
The idea of banning abortions outright is ludicrous. Some people are not fit, or not ready to be parents. I was one of them many years ago. It would have screwed mine and the mother's life up, and I haven't seen her in years. How would life be for that kid now? How many kids will be brought into messed up, unprepared situations and grow up to be another burden or victim of society?
If they wanted to pander to the religious right they should have just lowered the time limit. 15 weeks is pushing it but really a woman should know something is going on after 4 months of pregnancy. The 20 week scan would have been a better point.
As someone who lost a 8 week old foetus (not by choice) and felt mild disappointment and certainly no grief whatsoever I can fully appreciate aborting a foetus is nothing like killing a baby.