Still think everyone whose team is called FCB should face the chopping blockMight I suggest a purge of Barca delusionals if for some reason this deal doesn’t happen (it will). Consider it a consolation prize.
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It will be after Laporte’s tenure. He doesn’t give a shit about the future. He’s spending now to make his reign look glorious. Same as the President beforehand.
It’s a bit like Climate Change. Everyone knows there needs to be improvements for the future but no one can be that arsed about it to do anything
According to Barcelona fans, their club didn't borrow a billion dollar and they didn't ask their players to take pay cuts and deferred wages. Everything is normal and the world is against them.
Baghdad Bob found a new job, it seems
So Barcelona's debt isn't real?
Silva has been wanting to leave for 2 years.
last message of the day as i only have 5 per day
club says that it wants to have all the squad in the salary pyramid. period. the disinformation you can find here is minimum at the same level.
i have never said that "everything is rosy". laporta has never said that either. it is actually the opposite, laporta has said a million times that he doesnt like the "levers", but it just need to be done for the future of the club. it is mindblowing that you follow every single phrase of laporta, barça and media and you are still following the narrative that the club is selling this like a genius movement. it is not actually mindblowing, it is just hate and follow the narrative you want to follow. that's all.
by the way, i dont know why laporta has to explain YOU, a united fan, anything. if something, he has to inform barça fans.
the simple truth is that barça has sold 5% of the current revenues (and the % will decrease) and that's all. barça can live confortably with 5% less money for some time.
truth is that the most part of the money has gone to pay debt that comes with an interest too but you don't take that into the equation. barely 100M has been used to buy players from the over 500M barça has received from levers.
barça does not have money today for that, but it can have it in 5 years. the wage bill has already been reduce dramatically and will be 100% healthy in 2 years tops.
simple truth is that this decision is more conservative that just paying the debt with loans. if situation improves barça pays more money, if situation worsens barça pays less money. i dont know how revenue dependent payments is more risky than paying same money no matter what.
but time will tell, and you can find a thread from a decade ago stating basically the same... that barça was doomed.
barça situation is MASSIVELY BETTER than 1 year ago, you like it or not. that is different from being perfect, but you just don't (want to) understand that there are tones between black and white.
pd: im going to give you credit for spelling laporta correctly... a lot of people here keeps pushing for "laporte"
hilarious to read about "cults" from chelski fans... hahahahahaha.
good news is that you accept that you have 0 knowledge about barça. that's a beginning. you just said that barça couldnt use collateral and that is why barça loan rates are sky high. well, both things are false. now, instead of answering to my response to you, you are talking about a 100 different things. it says something about.
club says that it wants to have all the squad in the salary pyramid. period. the disinformation you can find here is minimum at the same level.
i have never said that "everything is rosy". laporta has never said that either. it is actually the opposite, laporta has said a million times that he doesnt like the "levers", but it just need to be done for the future of the club. it is mindblowing that you follow every single phrase of laporta, barça and media and you are still following the narrative that the club is selling this like a genius movement. it is not actually mindblowing, it is just hate and follow the narrative you want to follow. that's all.
by the way, i dont know why laporta has to explain YOU, a united fan, anything. if something, he has to inform barça fans.
the simple truth is that barça has sold 5% of the current revenues (and the % will decrease) and that's all. barça can live confortably with 5% less money for some time.
truth is that the most part of the money has gone to pay debt that comes with an interest too but you don't take that into the equation. barely 100M has been used to buy players from the over 500M barça has received from levers.
barça does not have money today for that, but it can have it in 5 years. the wage bill has already been reduce dramatically and will be 100% healthy in 2 years tops.
simple truth is that this decision is more conservative that just paying the debt with loans. if situation improves barça pays more money, if situation worsens barça pays less money. i dont know how revenue dependent payments is more risky than paying same money no matter what.
but time will tell, and you can find a thread from a decade ago stating basically the same... that barça was doomed.
barça situation is MASSIVELY BETTER than 1 year ago, you like it or not. that is different from being perfect, but you just don't (want to) understand that there are tones between black and white.
pd: im going to give you credit for spelling laporta correctly... a lot of people here keeps pushing for "laporte"
100% false, but if you are going to be happier thinking that...Basically, if Barca have a season from hell, their club is finished
another one with the same story... barça pays and has always paid its players. if barça does not pay, barça gets relegated. simple as that.
apparently you don't know how to read, as nobody ever said that thing.
hilarious to read about "cults" from chelski fans... hahahahahaha.
It's embarrassing
Couldn’t be bothered reading. But the first line was very positive news.last message of the day as i only have 5 per day
good news is that you accept that you have 0 knowledge about barça. that's a beginning. you just said that barça couldnt use collateral and that is why barça loan rates are sky high. well, both things are false. now, instead of answering to my response to you, you are talking about a 100 different things. it says something about.
club says that it wants to have all the squad in the salary pyramid. period. the disinformation you can find here is minimum at the same level.
i have never said that "everything is rosy". laporta has never said that either. it is actually the opposite, laporta has said a million times that he doesnt like the "levers", but it just need to be done for the future of the club. it is mindblowing that you follow every single phrase of laporta, barça and media and you are still following the narrative that the club is selling this like a genius movement. it is not actually mindblowing, it is just hate and follow the narrative you want to follow. that's all.
by the way, i dont know why laporta has to explain YOU, a united fan, anything. if something, he has to inform barça fans.
the simple truth is that barça has sold 5% of the current revenues (and the % will decrease) and that's all. barça can live confortably with 5% less money for some time.
truth is that the most part of the money has gone to pay debt that comes with an interest too but you don't take that into the equation. barely 100M has been used to buy players from the over 500M barça has received from levers.
barça does not have money today for that, but it can have it in 5 years. the wage bill has already been reduce dramatically and will be 100% healthy in 2 years tops.
simple truth is that this decision is more conservative that just paying the debt with loans. if situation improves barça pays more money, if situation worsens barça pays less money. i dont know how revenue dependent payments is more risky than paying same money no matter what.
but time will tell, and you can find a thread from a decade ago stating basically the same... that barça was doomed.
barça situation is MASSIVELY BETTER than 1 year ago, you like it or not. that is different from being perfect, but you just don't (want to) understand that there are tones between black and white.
pd: im going to give you credit for spelling laporta correctly... a lot of people here keeps pushing for "laporte"
100% false, but if you are going to be happier thinking that...
another one with the same story... barça pays and has always paid its players. if barça does not pay, barça gets relegated. simple as that.
apparently you don't know how to read, as nobody ever said that thing.
hilarious to read about "cults" from chelski fans... hahahahahaha.
Newbie system doing its job
Keep repeating it like a mantra
He can’t until tomorrow now. His eyes are burning.
Rumor has it that Barca still has several "levers" they can implement. The next one involves inserting hoses up the backside of players to harness their methane and sell it to the city who will use it to power shuttle buses to the Camp Nou.
The way Barca fans are so understanding of this situation really surprises me.
Blah blah blah blah fecking blah..
Worse than boris johnson this saga.
Come to united, don't come to united.
Pay me the fecking money, don't pay me the money.
Stay at barca, but don't stay at barca.
Goto jail, pass go don't collect your fecking deferred wages.
Collect the future wife, eat the future wife.
Buy a home, sell the fecking home.
Don't like europa league, feck europa league
Rainy days in Manchester? Feck Stoke.
He's not said a word.. Don't say a fecking thing Frenkie you mad cnut. Play in midfield, but don't play in midfield. Play in defence, but only if you have to.
Worse than boris johnson this saga.
Come to united, don't come to united.
Pay me the fecking money, don't pay me the money.
Stay at barca, but don't stay at barca.
Goto jail, pass go don't collect your fecking deferred wages.
Collect the future wife, eat the future wife.
Buy a home, sell the fecking home.
Don't like europa league, feck europa league
Rainy days in Manchester? Feck Stoke.
He's not said a word.. Don't say a fecking thing Frenkie you mad cnut. Play in midfield, but don't play in midfield. Play in defence, but only if you have to.
Spotify Camp Nou, those feckers sold their soul, don't ever let them forget it.
Barca fans on here showing similarity to the Brexit and flat earth loons on Twitter.
If you’re a Barca fan and not worried about the way the club are operating financially, then good on you. I’d be concerned, maybe more so than I am about the way the Glazers operate United.
If you’re a Barca fan and not worried about the way the club are operating financially, then good on you. I’d be concerned, maybe more so than I am about the way the Glazers operate United.
Lots to unpack here, most of it head-in-the-ground, it'll-all-work-out-I-hope-please-god stuff, but I'll focus on this. Now I'm confused; what exactly do you mean by 'pay their players'? Don't Barca STILL owe the likes of Busquets and Pique, not to mention Messi, eight figures EACH? I mean, they 'pay' them by getting them to defer to a future date (hopefully when I'm gone, thinks Laporta), but still ...
Tbh they’d probably welcome a certain Arsenal midfielder to the club right now as well if Laporte flirted with him.
Come on then comedic genius, hit us with your best title. Go on, split my sides, I dare you!!
Sold them for around €600m. Transfer balance as of today is -€130m and 5 - 8 players will leave. With Frenkie, it would be -€50m. Yes, sounds like as much as possible. Absolutely insane stuff.
I mean as a neutral I kind of get it... they are 'too big' to fail, what can really happen, etc
So you're working the night shift?
Your post gives some balance
As one of the marquee clubs are you OK with the concept of signing new players on no doubt very good wages with signing on bonus whilst asking other players to effectively forgoe wages they are owed which was deffered due to Covid. Is this just a false narrative being spun?
Your post of course addresses some of the media bias.last message of the day as i only have 5 per day
good news is that you accept that you have 0 knowledge about barça. that's a beginning. you just said that barça couldnt use collateral and that is why barça loan rates are sky high. well, both things are false. now, instead of answering to my response to you, you are talking about a 100 different things. it says something about.
club says that it wants to have all the squad in the salary pyramid. period. the disinformation you can find here is minimum at the same level.
i have never said that "everything is rosy". laporta has never said that either. it is actually the opposite, laporta has said a million times that he doesnt like the "levers", but it just need to be done for the future of the club. it is mindblowing that you follow every single phrase of laporta, barça and media and you are still following the narrative that the club is selling this like a genius movement. it is not actually mindblowing, it is just hate and follow the narrative you want to follow. that's all.
by the way, i dont know why laporta has to explain YOU, a united fan, anything. if something, he has to inform barça fans.
the simple truth is that barça has sold 5% of the current revenues (and the % will decrease) and that's all. barça can live confortably with 5% less money for some time.
truth is that the most part of the money has gone to pay debt that comes with an interest too but you don't take that into the equation. barely 100M has been used to buy players from the over 500M barça has received from levers.
barça does not have money today for that, but it can have it in 5 years. the wage bill has already been reduce dramatically and will be 100% healthy in 2 years tops.
simple truth is that this decision is more conservative that just paying the debt with loans. if situation improves barça pays more money, if situation worsens barça pays less money. i dont know how revenue dependent payments is more risky than paying same money no matter what.
but time will tell, and you can find a thread from a decade ago stating basically the same... that barça was doomed.
barça situation is MASSIVELY BETTER than 1 year ago, you like it or not. that is different from being perfect, but you just don't (want to) understand that there are tones between black and white.
pd: im going to give you credit for spelling laporta correctly... a lot of people here keeps pushing for "laporte"
100% false, but if you are going to be happier thinking that...
another one with the same story... barça pays and has always paid its players. if barça does not pay, barça gets relegated. simple as that.
apparently you don't know how to read, as nobody ever said that thing.
hilarious to read about "cults" from chelski fans... hahahahahaha.
As one of the marquee clubs are you OK with the concept of signing new players on no doubt very good wages with signing on bonus whilst asking other players to effectively forgoe wages they are owed which was deffered due to Covid. Is this just a false narrative being spun?
@FCBarcelona
You've basically sold a percentage of your TV rights for the next 25 years. You've also just blown a massive percentage of that fee on players you can't register. And rightly fecking so.
Some corrupt shit going on over there, and it's absolutely obvious to everyone
You've basically sold a percentage of your TV rights for the next 25 years. You've also just blown a massive percentage of that fee on players you can't register. And rightly fecking so.
Some corrupt shit going on over there, and it's absolutely obvious to everyone
Kinda funny how quickly Barça fans forget about signing bonuses when it involves their club, I heard this term far more last year when PSG signed Messi
We’ll either finalise this deal soon or we’ll keep seeing links to Chelsea from the Spanish press to try and get us to finalise the deal.
One things for sure. This is getting done
One things for sure. This is getting done
We'll see ...
But what I can't understand is Barca fans legitimately acting like there isn't anything worrying going on. Like, I'm no financial genius, but there's no way I'm selling a percentage on future earnings (that may well increase beyond the value I'm selling them for NOW) in exchange for an injection of cash now. Not unless I'm desperate, which is what Barca clearly are.
I know you can't reply, but this makes me laugh.
Toxic contracts?
De Jong was on what, 250-350k a week originally. What is toxic about that. That's the going rate.
Keep the bastards in here I say. Watch that ship turn to shit and sink. When they come crying woe is me. Then you turn to selective dismissal.Might I suggest a purge of Barca delusionals if for some reason this deal doesn’t happen (it will). Consider it a consolation prize.
And then use all that cash to buy a ton of new players. If they used that money to pay off old wages to Pique and the likes, or settle debt, fair enough. But selling away your future just to buy more players is ridiculous
Or they need to make sure no horses are missing a head.Yeesh, if I were Frenkie I'd be sleeping with one eye open.
How much do you owe Pique, Messi etc that have not been paid?
Just out of curiosity. What is United's net and gross debt?
Their plan B besides the limited levers will be the super League in the mid term.
587m€.
last message of the day as i only have 5 per day
good news is that you accept that you have 0 knowledge about barça. that's a beginning. you just said that barça couldnt use collateral and that is why barça loan rates are sky high. well, both things are false. now, instead of answering to my response to you, you are talking about a 100 different things. it says something about.
club says that it wants to have all the squad in the salary pyramid. period. the disinformation you can find here is minimum at the same level.
i have never said that "everything is rosy". laporta has never said that either. it is actually the opposite, laporta has said a million times that he doesnt like the "levers", but it just need to be done for the future of the club. it is mindblowing that you follow every single phrase of laporta, barça and media and you are still following the narrative that the club is selling this like a genius movement. it is not actually mindblowing, it is just hate and follow the narrative you want to follow. that's all.
by the way, i dont know why laporta has to explain YOU, a united fan, anything. if something, he has to inform barça fans.
the simple truth is that barça has sold 5% of the current revenues (and the % will decrease) and that's all. barça can live confortably with 5% less money for some time.
truth is that the most part of the money has gone to pay debt that comes with an interest too but you don't take that into the equation. barely 100M has been used to buy players from the over 500M barça has received from levers.
barça does not have money today for that, but it can have it in 5 years. the wage bill has already been reduce dramatically and will be 100% healthy in 2 years tops.
simple truth is that this decision is more conservative that just paying the debt with loans. if situation improves barça pays more money, if situation worsens barça pays less money. i dont know how revenue dependent payments is more risky than paying same money no matter what.
but time will tell, and you can find a thread from a decade ago stating basically the same... that barça was doomed.
barça situation is MASSIVELY BETTER than 1 year ago, you like it or not. that is different from being perfect, but you just don't (want to) understand that there are tones between black and white.
pd: im going to give you credit for spelling laporta correctly... a lot of people here keeps pushing for "laporte"
100% false, but if you are going to be happier thinking that...
another one with the same story... barça pays and has always paid its players. if barça does not pay, barça gets relegated. simple as that.
apparently you don't know how to read, as nobody ever said that thing.
hilarious to read about "cults" from chelski fans... hahahahahaha.
I love this post. Everything about it is perfect. My favourite thing is the username choice. Can't be arsed choosing a name, but want to show your love for Barca. It's perfect. I can imagine you crying whilst typing that post. Your salty tears mixing with 1/3 desperation and 1/3 snot. I also imagine that you have a Barcelona lunch box that you take to work. Also, the lack of fecks given for capital letters throughout, a real "I love Barcelona and will not let punctuation stand in my way" stance. It's beautiful.
We get 5 more of these tomorrow. We're so blessed.
They will. But I’m hoping they hit all kinds of embarrassing difficulties, akin to the FDJ debacle (which actually is really embarrassing for them).
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