How did Bayern line up today? Unable to watch the game, many thanks in advance.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Tedesco is also still trying to figure it out…
I would say something like a 3232 in the first half?
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Pavard - Upamecano - Hernandez
Kimmich - Sabitzer
Müller - Musiala - Davies
Gnabry - Mané
There must be a website that shows average positions at halftime.
They lost their rhythm after the substitutions and the shift of the formation.
What's the reason behind RB Leipzeg trying hard to sell Angelino. I understand they want Raum but Angelino has been pretty good for them since joining and they even spent a decent amount of money to sign him permanently last season.
Don't get the logic behind wanting Raum.when they already have him.
Don't get the logic behind wanting Raum.when they already have him.
Appreciate this, judging by that it seems the width on the right might be an issue if this is the “big game” lineup moving forward, unless Serge is acting like a f9 drifting wide to the right and Mueller cuts inside.Tedesco is also still trying to figure it out…
I would say something like a 3232 in the first half?
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Pavard - Upamecano - Hernandez
Kimmich - Sabitzer
Müller - Musiala - Davies
Gnabry - Mané
There must be a website that shows average positions at halftime.
They lost their rhythm after the substitutions and the shift of the formation.
Sorry if this seems rude but I have been wondering for years now why you keep misspelling Leipzig. Is it some sort of inside joke that I am missing?
FtfySorry if this seems rude but I have been wondering for years now why you keep misspelling Leipzsch. Is it some sort of inside joke that I am missing?
I've been made fun of that previously here. I wrote Leipzig first for this post, but then remembered I got mocked for it and then changed it to LeipzegSorry if this seems rude but I have been wondering for years now why you keep misspelling Leipzig. Is it some sort of inside joke that I am missing?
I guess I've been permanently traumatized by it 
Anytime I read "Leipzeg" I immediately check the author and think to myself "ah yes, it's him"I've been made fun of that previously here. I wrote Leipzig first for this post, but then remembered I got mocked for it and then changed it to Leipzeg
Really don't mean to be a dick about it, I have paid attention to this for longer than I'd like to admit.Appreciated
So purely coincidentally I came across an Anthony Modeste compilation and while I think we're all aware that Köln like their crosses the amount of headers he scores is something else:
I think I counted 10, what's the record? If Patrick Schick has a magical left foot, does Modeste have a magical forehead?
I think I counted 10, what's the record? If Patrick Schick has a magical left foot, does Modeste have a magical forehead?
What I find even more baffling is that Angelino is willing to join Hoffenheim. I kind of get the thought of signing Raum, because he might fit their playing style even better, and I also get why Hoffenheim wants to replace him with Angelino but what's in there for Angelino himself? Surely he has much better options than Hoffenheim. He's a player who could have easily joined a UCL club.
Not sure about calling it the „big game“ lineup.
All the new players bar Mané started on the bench and Coman is not at 100%.
It remains to be seen if there even is such a thing as a default formation like the 4231 that had been around for 10 years with only Pep tweaking it (4141) a bit.
And I am with you, Müller should play centrally and the right wing needs more width.
I think Angelino isn't willing to join (makes sense), which is why the deal is being stalled.
Hoffenheim are a good team, but yea Angelino can do much better especially as a LB. Wonder why City aren't interested in getting him back given their struggles to sign the Brighton LB.
Being a wing back limits Angelino's options quite a bit, being kind of physically weak and perhaps not having the best attitude does so even further. It's a bit like Guerreiro or your old school no10. You look at the talent and you think there must be a place for them in your team, but then you look for a concrete spot to fit them in and it's never really there.
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Official. Leipzig have found the necessary space in their budget.
Never rated him anyway, Schulz 2.0, etc
Yes, pretty much my thinking as well
Yeah, but on the other hand, inverted fullbacks are becoming quite a thing. Cancelo, Trent, Zinchenko, etc. So it's not really as if his position is fully gone like the classic 10. And Angelino is really good, even in a typical LB role he has lots of technique to make up for his lack of speed. Wouldn't say he's slower than, for instance, Carvajal, Mazraoui, Chilwell, Alonso, etc
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I think suggesting that IWBs are becoming a common thing or that Angelino even fits into that category is quite debatable.
I'd say he's best the further forward he can wait for the ball. Dribbling or carrying the ball doesn't seem to be a particular strength of his.
I don't think that quote is particular bad, but I don't understand why Bayern allow him to have such a public profile.
He's much better gonna forward than Schulz I think, though I will admit I never thought Schulz would be as bad at Dortmund as he has been.Tweet
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Never rated him anyway, Schulz 2.0, etc
Raum is defensively very limited though, which is why I don't want him to be the NT left back in a 4 man defensive system.
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Never rated him anyway, Schulz 2.0, etc
I was joking by mentioning Schulz, there is of course the similarity that he's mainly excelled as a wing back at Hoffenheim and most clubs would have bought him as a LB, but it's not his fault that someone else flopped before him.
I also wouldn't describe his defensive quality in such dramatic terms. There is no perfect LB out there at the moment, especially in the €30m price range. So you'll always have to make concessions somewhere.
He's not particularly good defensively, but he's not terrible either and he actually seems to make some effort tracking back.
Actually the four forwards/wingers/offensive midfielders yesterday were acting very fluidly and interchanged positions very often. Müller was not on the right wing more often than he is in every other match. As long that is made somewhat with systems and the players know what the other does it is fine with Müller who always has a good interchange with whoever is the right winger.
And Pavard was actually more offensive than he used to be.
These Sunday fixtures are so depressingly boring. I struggle to even imagine who could produce an upset today.
Even Schalke scored a ton of goals. Schalke!
Even Schalke scored a ton of goals. Schalke!
Well Freiburg's in trouble as we speak...those 4 unlucky Bundesliga teams who drew a 2. Bundesliga opponent definitely have a more difficult task than the rest.
Yes, Freiburg were a candidate, but I had to omit them from my post for dramatic effect.
I'd say dribbling is a strength of him. Not in the Davies manner of course, but still. Generally a player as good on the ball and at crossing as Angelino should have no problem to find a better club than Hoffenheim. Chelsea for instance or one of the Italian clubs or Valencia/Sevilla/etc
debatable
Sure, Hoffenheim would be a surprisingly big step backwards for him, but I assume that Leipzig are still demanding say €15m to €20m at the least for him and that will be a real problem for a lot of clubs in the current climate. Especially for a player that won't fully fit into any tactical idea.
At least Hertha don't disappoint.
No idea how they lost that game..at half-time it felt like they were gonna win 5:0.At least Hertha don't disappoint.
Pretty epic game for neutral viewers though.
Unfortunately I missed everything before the pens.
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A nice bit of recognition for his work.
Thankfully I've only tuned in recently, but this extra time is pretty hard to watch. Still, it's perhaps Hertha's last chance to shave their season salvaged, so a lot at stake here.
Aren't you watching Union? ^^
Think that was the joke
It was an extremely funny joke about Hertha's season going to be so bad, that Union losing in the cup would be its highlight.
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I kinda want to see how Union handles things when they finally go through a rough spell though. So far their Bundesliga experience has been remarkably smooth, even their first season was relatively drama-free.
They're eventually gonna have an underwhelming season and it'll be interesting to see how good they are at dealing with crises.
Edit: I Just checked Union's history and the past 20 years have been pretty amazing. The last time they had a really poor season was in 2004/05 when they got relegated to the fourth division. Ever since then they've usually had one average season when joining a new league followed by a string of top 10 finishes until they get promoted to a new league and do the same thing again.
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They already had to deal with a lot of typical crisis triggers:
First being a newly promoted team. Then their second season (which can sometimes be even harder than the first - see Bielfeld or Stuttgart last season), they had also lost Andersson, who was quite central to their game plan. Then they actually made it into Europe and went all the way through to the cup semis, two distractions that can be very costly, when your squad doesn't have depth. But that didn't affect them, neither did Andrich leaving. Kruse, the centerpiece of their attack, and Friedrich leaving midseason arguably caused a bad spell of five or so games, but that didn't shake them either and they finished the season with good results.
They look pretty robust to me, I think they have moved past the "visitor tier" of a club like Bielefeld and are now in the tier of clubs like Augsburg or maybe Mainz, where they aren't always automatic candidates for relegation and can survive a crisis.
It'll be interesting how the landscape will look like in a few years, with Union established, Bremen and Schalke promoted and Hamburg hopefully following soon. Someone will miss out.
Knauff's situational awareness shocks me every time I watch a Frankfurt game.
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Predictions for the season anyone? Assuming no major ins/out
Europe spots
Bayern
RBL
BVB
Neverkusen
BMG
Freiburg
relegation in no particular order, although wouldn’t surprise me if Bochum drops into here.
S04
Hertha
Werder
Europe spots
Bayern
RBL
BVB
Neverkusen
BMG
Freiburg
relegation in no particular order, although wouldn’t surprise me if Bochum drops into here.
S04
Hertha
Werder
More or less in order...
CL: Bayern, Leipzig, Leverkusen, Dortmund (will change if Dortmund gets a decent new striker)
Middle of the pack: Wolfsburg, Frankfurt, Freiburg, Union, Hoffenheim, Gladbach, Stuttgart, Mainz
Fighting for survival: Köln, Hertha, Werder, Augsburg, Schalke, Bochum
People sleeping on Stuttgart going down I see