I would be happy we cancel this deal if that's the wages he's going to be on
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Again, they may not need to if the player wants the move. Who knows though, United have never agreed terms with de Jong so it's not clear how much we would have needed to give him to persuade him.
Haven’t kept up with those at all. What should I be saying, do you think?
What is your point? Of course De Jong is likely interested in joining them, players are generally interested in joining more than one club. A player can be interested in Chelsea and United among many other clubs.
You're a happy go lucky kinda guy, huh? That's good. Most aren't.
Most have been fed lies and BS for years while our club has been feckin run into the ground. Mauled.
We're a shadow of our former selves. People are upset. Don't be surprised that they're negative right now.
Honestly, I hope that happens but we have all seen how this club is run by a bunch of amateurs and this time its nothing new.
The biggest regret would be that we could have had another player for preseason and be upto speed with EtH tactics.
In a perfect world, we should have signed ANOTHER midfielder to replace matic, assuming eriksen is a lingard replacement.
FDJ is for me a replacement for pogba.
Thats my gripe with the glazers. We should be signing BOTH Neves AND FDJ.
Why would the fact they recently won a CL be relevant?
If I have to tell another supposed United fan about the positives of joining a club they supposedly support then I wonder how much of a United fan they actually are.. if I’m honest.
What do you think we’re going to pay him? He will almost certainly be on 350k
Neither have played in Holland nor have they played for ETH. But they were ETH's targets.
So what are you saying about that, considering "ETH only signs players he knows, are dutch or have played in the dutch league"
Exactly. They'll evaluate all the offers on the table and take the one that best suits them.
At the end of the day, we don't know whats important to Frenkie. He might want to go somewhere where he feels valued and important, where he can play in his favoured position and is guaranteed playing time, as the first name on starting sheet. Who knows. He'll face a lot more competition at Chelsea than he will at United, but maybe thats what he likes?
In the last 16 years, Chelsea have won 3 League Titles.
Folk are making them out to be titans who are scrapping for the title every single season.
They were on the brink regarding Top 4 last season and I'll bet Spurs and Arsenal have better seasons than them and Tuchel gone by the end of next season.
Eriksen isn't a Lingar replacement, Lingard was an end of the bench player that was barely useful. Eriksen is supposed to be a regular starter and far superior footballer.
This phrase boils my blood.
I think the criticism of the club with this particular transfer is unjustified. The club agreed the fee well in advance. Personal terms have not been an issue at all. There’s literally nothing else the club could have done in order to get him. Yes you can argue we could have put a deadline in place but then there would be complaints that the board didn’t back the manager.
I just never thought of it and assumed it would be reasonable because people never talk about it and the CAF is usually obsessed and annoyed with players on high wages. I guess it doesn't apply when it's a new signing they are desperate for. 300k maximum I would have thought
Absolutely. Better for Barca because they can make more money out of his sale, and better for de Jong because he has more options at his disposal. It may even help him to truly believe that staying at Barcelona isn't his best option any more.
The thought of throwing ridiculous wages at him doesn't sit right with me. I understand that it may be what it takes to get the transfer done, but...it feels like it's just creating another problem of a different kind.
feck you Orny.
DeJong can be pretty much assured that ETH will play him in his favoured role. Couldn't say the same for Tuchel.
Some recent quotes from him that this is pretty important to him.
I mean, our transfers are being lead by people who have little to no experience in the role...
Fecking Ragnick was a huge mistake. We could have gotten top four easily if the interim wasn't completely inept.
FDJ would have been done and dusted if we had CL. Losing this to Chelsea is going to fecking hurt.
FDJ would have been done and dusted if we had CL. Losing this to Chelsea is going to fecking hurt.
To be fair this only seems to be a saga due to Barcas situation and their constant leaking to the press about deadlines and levers etc
I’ve been fully critical of all involved but not getting into a leaking war isn’t one of them. If we don’t get him then fair enough but I don’t think it’s been this bare knuckle ride that it’s made out to be from our end.
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Just sounds like they are positioning themselves and nothing is actually agreed.
I meant as more of a positional replacement rather than squad status.
It sort of makes sense because I'd imagine Eriksen is on similar wages to what lingard commanded.
FDJ of course would take up the wages of pogba.
We never agreed personal terms with de Jong.
Mine too. Although, I wouldn't say they're a bunch of amateurs. I'm sure they have at least some good qualities.
How embarrassing. We should have firstly been 100% sure he wants to join
Don't overlook the city. It's London vs Manchester as well for family and all that
Actually in a normal world that's what other clubs would have done but not us.
I'm talking about De Jong though, is he a united fan? You have to look at it from his perspective.
Recently winning the CL is a decent indication that the club is competitive.
Steady now
Possibly, I hope you're right.
The league is so hard to win these days though, look at Liverpool nobody will doubt they are in the top 3 clubs in Europe for the past 5 years and have only won 1 title as well.
Anyway we're going off topic I just feel that at this moment in time we are a way behind Chelsea on the pitch.
There were tweets last week, obviously they were dismissed pretty sharpish on here. Something to the effect that he believes we a poorly run etc.
Regarding the bolded part, potentially we are happy to let this distract people and it not go anywhere.
He would be on more than Ronaldo after the 25% salary reductions imposed on the squad after failing to get CL.
No I’ve never ever said that, you must be mixing me up with another poster.
I meant it is likely that ETH and FDJ are on good enough terms to be honest about their intentions, as far as possible.
There is the excuse that we are leaving a spot open for Garner/Zidane etc. to make the jump.
Which I would love to see happen tbh.
This also boils my blood
Only way if chelsea sign him,he has to cut down his wages significantly. No way we offer 450 k to him as united offered. If he is willing to cut his wages he will do that and will stay at barcelona.
There is no logic in this rumour otherwise someone forced to make him believe he loves chelsea more than his dream barcelona secretly from young age something like in inception movie.
There is no logic in this rumour otherwise someone forced to make him believe he loves chelsea more than his dream barcelona secretly from young age something like in inception movie.
I only see this as good news, as I can get better odds on him coming United.
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