Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!

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The theory that was shared earlier is that they count on a deep CL run and a good La Liga season. I assume that they will also look for a boatload of new sponsors.
Their annual expected revenue is forecasted based on achieving those targets. Top 4, fair enough. Any UCL achievements? Kinda crazy.
 

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Excuse my ignorance, would appreciate if someone replies to this:

Why can't an oil state/Chinese simply buy them out and relieve them of most of their debts? If Saudi bought Newcastle to improve the image and marketing of their country whats stopping them from using their unlimited funds to buy out Barca?

Is it because of Catalonian pride? They don't want Barca falling into the hands of corporates? Or are they no longer an attractive proposition because most of the levers they signed are non reversible and they've signed away TV rights etc for the next 25 years...?
 

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Excuse my ignorance, would appreciate if someone replies to this:

Why can't an oil state/Chinese simply buy them out and relieve them of most of their debts? If Saudi bought Newcastle to improve the image and marketing of their country whats stopping them from using their unlimited funds to buy out Barca?

Is it because of Catalonian pride? They don't want Barca falling into the hands of corporates? Or are they no longer an attractive proposition because most of the levers they signed are non reversible and they've signed away TV rights etc for the next 25 years...?
Its a 'fan-owned' club.
 

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So your employer owes you money in back payments and is willing to let you keep on working for him for half what you are getting. It's a big no thanks for me.
Especially considering that there isa valid contract for your full salary that you can just insist on.
 

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Excuse my ignorance, would appreciate if someone replies to this:

Why can't an oil state/Chinese simply buy them out and relieve them of most of their debts? If Saudi bought Newcastle to improve the image and marketing of their country whats stopping them from using their unlimited funds to buy out Barca?

Is it because of Catalonian pride? They don't want Barca falling into the hands of corporates? Or are they no longer an attractive proposition because most of the levers they signed are non reversible and they've signed away TV rights etc for the next 25 years...?
It's a club, not a company. A club has members (the socios as they are called in Spanish), but no owners and therefore can't be bought.
 

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Excuse my ignorance, would appreciate if someone replies to this:

Why can't an oil state/Chinese simply buy them out and relieve them of most of their debts? If Saudi bought Newcastle to improve the image and marketing of their country whats stopping them from using their unlimited funds to buy out Barca?

Is it because of Catalonian pride? They don't want Barca falling into the hands of corporates? Or are they no longer an attractive proposition because most of the levers they signed are non reversible and they've signed away TV rights etc for the next 25 years...?
Should they find themselves in a much worse position in a few years to the point where they need the government intervention to bail them out. Would it involve Spain gov as well considering they are playing in La Liga? if so then Catalonia pride is a bit rich.
 

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At this point they should leave La Liga and move their fecking club to Germany

FC Barca LEVERkusen should be perfect match.
 
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do you enjoy being so daft? Unless you just enjoy trolling
Lighten up kiddie, we'll say what we like (within mods remit).

No-one's having a pop at you for your digs at Ronaldo? even though this is a United site mainly.

I'm sure there are plenty of sycophantic Reddit threads full of Barca fans who think this transfer window was the greatest ever (regardless of the risks taken). Leave, go join one of them if you want an echo chamber. We'll get over it.
 

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Kind of funny how so many people of the cheating league complain about Barca. Your so called big 6 has 2 teams made up of oíl. Barca selling it's own assets is embarrasing but Arabic or Russian billionaires pumping billions into the league is perfectly fine.
 

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Kind of funny how so many people of the cheating league complain about Barca. Your so called big 6 has 2 teams made up of oíl. Barca selling it's own assets is embarrasing but Arabic or Russian billionaires pumping billions into the league is perfectly fine.
What is the cheating league?
 

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With the amount of money they owe, leveraged to the hilt, I bet their commercial activities will be on steroids now. United will look like some NGO next to them.
A couple of seasons from now I bet their shirt is going to make Mexican league shirts like a peaceful blank canvas.
 

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What is the cheating league?
A league where 8 out of the last 10 titles were won by oíl clubs. Liverpool and Leicester deserved to win. The others are the doping league, the cheating league. But no, Barca are awful for selling it's assets. No teams who nobody cares about spending hundreds of millions but can buy any player they want.
 

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Barca selling it's own assets is embarrasing
Yes, yes it is. Selling future revenue and assets because of decisions you made is really embarrassing actually. Trying to blame one person for all your failings is also just as nauseating.
 

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A league where 8 out of the last 10 titles were won by oíl clubs. Liverpool and Leicester deserved to win. The others are the doping league, the cheating league. But no, Barca are awful for selling it's assets. No teams who nobody cares about spending hundreds of millions but can buy any player they want.
Don't think Real Madrid and Atletico sold their assets and yet, the won the 3 last titles with Real Madrid winning the CL on top. Nice attempt at a diversion but you'll convince absolutely no-one that this whole lever thing wasn't caused by anything but sheer incomptence within your club.
 

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Don't think Real Madrid and Atletico sold their assets and yet, the won the 3 last titles with Real Madrid winning the CL on top. Nice attempt at a diversion but you'll convince absolutely no-one that this whole lever thing wasn't caused by anything but sheer incomptence within your club.
Atletico Madrid sold 8.2% of the television rights to CVC for 50 years. In addition to a capital increase of €182M.
It is a club with an immense debt, so it has been seen that they have not spent anything this year.
 

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A league where 8 out of the last 10 titles were won by oíl clubs. Liverpool and Leicester deserved to win. The others are the doping league, the cheating league. But no, Barca are awful for selling it's assets. No teams who nobody cares about spending hundreds of millions but can buy any player they want.
Barca aren't awful for selling their assets. That's more poor planning. Barca are awful for the way they're treating their players and for some of the more unseemly tactics they're adopting to get themselves out of a situation their stupidity got them in. That's why they're awful. Oh, and for the 'mes que un club' circle jerk.
 

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Kind of funny how so many people of the cheating league complain about Barca. Your so called big 6 has 2 teams made up of oíl. Barca selling it's own assets is embarrasing but Arabic or Russian billionaires pumping billions into the league is perfectly fine.
Barca selling assets is not embarrassing per se. If you think that is why everyone is making fun of your club than you are being ignorant.
 

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Thanks, I saw that the new deal may include the back?
"Apparently, the WhiteBIT logo is also expected to appear on the back of the shirts of the sections, and could even be included in the sleeve of the women's team, in the absence of official confirmation."

I don't know if the logo will appear on the back of the first team.
 

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Lighten up kiddie, we'll say what we like (within mods remit).

No-one's having a pop at you for your digs at Ronaldo? even though this is a United site mainly.

I'm sure there are plenty of sycophantic Reddit threads full of Barca fans who think this transfer window was the greatest ever (regardless of the risks taken). Leave, go join one of them if you want an echo chamber. We'll get over it.
Sure, but keep in mind Ronaldo has rightfully been getting torn apart on this forum too. They even voted Messi over him on a united forum.

having said that, carry on, I know united have a ton of issues themselves to deal with so you need deal with it however you can.

Cheers
 
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Sure, but keep in mind Ronaldo has rightfully been getting torn apart on this forum too. They even voted Messi over him on a united forum.

having said that, carry on, I know united have a ton of issues themselves to deal with so you need deal with it however you can.

Cheers
The old 'have a dig but try to hide it' post?

Try harder. And stick to your own club (or drooling over an ex player) OR take comments on yours from other clubs fans.

I've got tonnes if you want
 

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Kind of funny how so many people of the cheating league complain about Barca. Your so called big 6 has 2 teams made up of oíl. Barca selling it's own assets is embarrasing but Arabic or Russian billionaires pumping billions into the league is perfectly fine.
you realise we don’t support those teams either, yes?
 

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Don't think Real Madrid and Atletico sold their assets and yet, the won the 3 last titles with Real Madrid winning the CL on top. Nice attempt at a diversion but you'll convince absolutely no-one that this whole lever thing wasn't caused by anything but sheer incomptence within your club.
Of course it was caused by Bartomeu. However, managing a club properly only matters when you are a real football club. Qatar Saint Germain is not. As much as I dislike Real Madrid I was happy when they defeated the 3 big cheaters. Including, of course, QSG.
Real Madrid did build their team thanks to their previous football succcess, they are not an artificial team.
Criticism from real successful teams that play fair like Bayern, Liverpool, etc. Is fine. But what's the point of having cheaters criticize how we do things?
 

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Of course it was caused by Bartomeu. However, managing a club properly only matters when you are a real football club. Qatar Saint Germain is not. As much as I dislike Real Madrid I was happy when they defeated the 3 big cheaters. Including, of course, QSG.
Real Madrid did build their team thanks to their previous football succcess, they are not an artificial team.
Criticism from real successful teams that play fair like Bayern, Liverpool, etc. Is fine. But what's the point of having cheaters criticize how we do things?
I criticize pretty much anything I want, including my own club when needed, and don't need the permission of someone who uses silly twitter punchlines like QSG or Qatar Saint Germain. You can expect a lot of criticism when I feel like it.
 

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I criticize pretty much anything I want, including my own club when needed, and don't need the permission of someone who uses silly twitter punchlines like QSG or Qatar Saint Germain. You can expect a lot of criticism when I feel like it.
It's not silly, PSG is only what it is thanks to Qatar, not Paris. Therefore, QSG is a more suitable name.
 

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Over 75,000 in the stadium just for a club friendly. The real revenue to get back on track will come from ticket revenue. Good start but hopefully a good season is ahead.
 

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Excuse my ignorance, would appreciate if someone replies to this:

Why can't an oil state/Chinese simply buy them out and relieve them of most of their debts? If Saudi bought Newcastle to improve the image and marketing of their country whats stopping them from using their unlimited funds to buy out Barca?

Is it because of Catalonian pride? They don't want Barca falling into the hands of corporates? Or are they no longer an attractive proposition because most of the levers they signed are non reversible and they've signed away TV rights etc for the next 25 years...?
I'd love to know as well, but I assume if the members sign off on it and La Liga approves, there's no problem.

Mes Que Un Club referring to the fact that Barca membership is complicated - membership passes down through family, the members control the club, not the president etc. etc.

Of course it's impossible and the government will just bail them out if it comes to that.
 

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Christensen not available today to play for barcelona because cervical discomfort. That boy really looking after his body. :lol: