Do I consider that we are buying a player who is coming from another league, who had barely better stats than a player we already think is shit, coming to a league where the game is significantly tougher week in week out to be a 15m upgrade.
Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year
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Yeah, it was his worst season by some distance and the other midfielders were as bad.
What's so great about Spurs and Arsenals midfield btw? Maybe Rabiot would improve their CM options IF not start for them?
Thanks. Next to Fred is an interesting prospect.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if we bid for Tielemans right now and go with that as our central midfield.
Oh no he had one terrible season which I will rely on completely, and plays in a league that isn't a PL, so he's definitely worse than Scott fecking Mctominay.
They both finished well ahead of us last year, and if we want to be back in CL football, we have to beat them.
Juventus play us better than Yo-Yo Ma plays the cello
Extremely mediocre player. Even a loan would be bad, but at least it would be just a season. Buying this guy is a joke.
With the exception of Everton I doubt he'd get into any of those other teams either
Do you judge players on a single season when you ahve more than one season to judge them? Do you draw strong conclusions on that when the stats don't match with the rest of their careers?
Ah they finished ahead of us in our worst ever PL season, so their midfields are amazing. Got it.
Ah yes, another enigmatic, semi psychopathic Frenchman being haphazardly signed by a United manager trying to kick start his and the clubs fortunes. I like!!!
And here I thought we had to pay to get rid of him but you guys are even giving us money!!
By chance do you want Arthur on free loan as well
By chance do you want Arthur on free loan as well
Wasn't Bentancour (?) who people adore now also someone who disappointed at Juve?
What if, and this might be a nightmare, Rabiot are replacing Fred, and not McTominay?
Rabiot and Fred are similar in styles and their roles through the years. Fred and Rabiot are both left-footed, how many teams are playing 2 left-footed players in their central midfield? Fred was taken of early in the second half yesterday, even if it was McTominay who was easily the more useless one. What if Ten Hag wants to replace Fred and keep McTominay in the starting eleven?
Rabiot and Fred are similar in styles and their roles through the years. Fred and Rabiot are both left-footed, how many teams are playing 2 left-footed players in their central midfield? Fred was taken of early in the second half yesterday, even if it was McTominay who was easily the more useless one. What if Ten Hag wants to replace Fred and keep McTominay in the starting eleven?
I am not so sure about that to be honest. LVG is the founder of that philosophy. Pep, Xavi, Arteta are all in the same school with variation in execution.
Juve fans logging on to laugh at us :<
I feel like those posting stats about McTominay are really doing a discredit to stats.
This one really is really clear based on eye test.
Rabiot looks so much better than McTominay. Firstly he is better positionally by a mile, looks like he actually has a plan on what he is going to do both in possession and out of it, he is a better tackler, he is also probably slightly better than McTominay at driving away from initial challenges to break the lines which is probably Scott's best attribute.
This one really is really clear based on eye test.
Rabiot looks so much better than McTominay. Firstly he is better positionally by a mile, looks like he actually has a plan on what he is going to do both in possession and out of it, he is a better tackler, he is also probably slightly better than McTominay at driving away from initial challenges to break the lines which is probably Scott's best attribute.
I am quite neutral on Rabiot, but if he is meant to be our only CM signing it once again is pretty underwhelming.
I don't think that anyone can possibly forget that we are in a period of transition, we've been in it for almost a decade..!
I'm finished
as far as i remember Xhaka is a laughing stock in redcafe. if the question is Xhaka or Rabiot, people may feel better.
Has had 22 mins was subbed off after coming in as a sub
Chiesa and Vlahovic please. Then we'll take the boy and his mum off your hands for good
Basing players off one season is always flawed. We have to look at the overall profile of the player and decide whether or not we can get the best out of them and whether they can improve us.
Luckily for Rabiot, we are starting from the position of an almost blank slate. Our midfield is so fecking dreadful that he really has a chance opportunity here to come in and improve us.
Judging from ability alone this is actually angering me a bit more than the Arnautovic rumour (I know he's a tool but he can actually be really good footballer on his day). Rabiot is just bang average. Still a lot younger at least.
Different players but yeah. The same applies to all their midfielders, in terms of feeling Juventus are right watching them play is excrutiating, the issue is that it's all of them without exception.
At least, no one will be complaining about his passing stats if we're interested.
I wonder who'd win a poll in Albania, Xhaka or Arnautovic
Don't laugh, Arsenal might. Arsenal is linked with Arthur back in January.
Exacly and I'm skeptical about Rabiot but he isn't McTominay.
I think the thing we have to remember is that the best teams don’t necessarily have eleven world beaters. Liverpool have dominated many teams over the last few years with bloody Jordan Henderson. If ETH sees Rabiot’s profile of player as one that will improve the collective then I’ll back his judgement.
Hopefully we’ll also be adding a touch of class with FDJ next to him too. Add in Eriksen and that’s quite a transformation
Hopefully we’ll also be adding a touch of class with FDJ next to him too. Add in Eriksen and that’s quite a transformation
Any idea why we're not going for Tielemans anymore? I'd feel a little bit better about it if we panic sign him instead.
My point is two fold 1) Some of our signings will not be top class players but ones who can at some point help us challenge for top 4 and 2) Some of them may even be players who aren't doing well but the club feels they have much greater potential
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Top 6? I ll be happy with a top half finish. We can forget about Europe next year.
Had a quick look through the Juventus forum. They absolutely hate everyone in their squad it seems like apart from their shiny new toy who we all detested (Pogba)
sorry those are actually decent players that we don't want to sell!
By the way I'm not saying Rabiot is totally shit just that perfomance/wages do not match at all!
At Juventus he is getting paid almost 200k/week way too much for what he can offer.
He doesn't tackle, he isn't a deep passer, scores way too less, he isn't aggressive.
Hi best attributes? he is handsome so team general handsomeness would go up. Sometimes he somehow wake up and does wonder goals but that's like once every 2months
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