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golden_blunder

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In this form he’s just an invisible midfielder, not bringing anything to the team. Needs dropped. Play zidane and you will at least see more workrate and more balance in the team
 

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His moaning is doing my head in. I almost hate him. Look at yourself in the mirror mate.
 

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The Ballon D'or player has summarily left the building and been replaced by a problem
 

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Did you even watch that game? how do you expect that to happen when the ball hasn't even left the feet of the defenders? Yes his shooting has been wayward and I'll say he's not been at his best but when a team is struggling lije we are, we need the defense to stop shifting in daft goals like we are seeing every week but no let's blame it on Bruno because Pogba is gone!
I did watch the game. Yes the defense was poor and as I said, a solid defense is ideal, but in the absence of one the forward players need to make things happen when they get the ball.

There’s literally no other option or you lose every game because the defense isn’t the best.
 

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Someone said he can be coached and will be a perfect number 10 for ETH.

Can’t remember who is was @UNITED ACADEMY
I don’t remember the perfect number 10 part, I did say he can be coached to be wide player though so definitely not me. But I would like to defend that poster a little bit by asking you a rhetorical question, do you really think coaching player only requires 2 months? :lol: :lol:

You should come back talking about it to the person who said that after a season at least.
 

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I don’t remember the perfect number 10 part, I did say he can be coached to be wide player though so definitely not me. But I would like to defend that poster a little bit by asking you a rhetorical question, do you really think coaching player only requires 2 months? :lol: :lol:

You should come back talking about it to the person who said that after a season at least.
:lol: I’ll wait for the season to finish. Hopefully I find the poster.
 

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In this form he’s just an invisible midfielder, not bringing anything to the team. Needs dropped. Play zidane and you will at least see more workrate and more balance in the team
He’s not invisible, he loses so many balls either via poor touch or pass, can’t believe the amount of times we lose the ball and I’m like “yeah, of course it’s Bruno”.

Can’t wait for him to leave the club, but with the new contract we’re stuck with him, at least hopefully on the bench.
 

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Moaning moaning and more maoning. Also so so careless. if it's not a hollywood ball he can't do it it seems? He's been in poor form almost as long as Rashford has.
 

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I would assume it was a panic reaction. He must know that nobody at the club can play the role. He played Fred there last week and it was a disaster. He moved Eriksen there in the 2nd half, and he played well. It did help that Brighton played far more conservatively in the 2nd half. That helped us to look better. Seeing Eriksen look good there gave ETH the confidence to start him there against Brentford. Then Eriksen had a disaster.

I would like to see Eriksen take Bruno's place. Bruno has been horrible for too long.
Quite apart from the Bruno issue (We don't talk about Bruno) this is correct - we don't have a 6 or a real team (yet), and both teams have pressed the two guys we have tried there well. Fred & Eriksen always had 1-2 players on them ebfor ethey got the ball. If the team on a whole is timid and slow then you give whoever is playing the 6 no chance.

Bruno needs dropping - play Garner as a DM and see how it goes.
 

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Quite apart from the Bruno issue (We don't talk about Bruno) this is correct - we don't have a 6 or a real team (yet), and both teams have pressed the two guys we have tried there well. Fred & Eriksen always had 1-2 players on them ebfor ethey got the ball. If the team on a whole is timid and slow then you give whoever is playing the 6 no chance.

Bruno needs dropping - play Garner as a DM and see how it goes.
I agree it is time for a change. Just need to give Garner or others an extended opportunity Bruno has been awful for a long time. Fortune favours the brave and the manager needs to try something different, a home loss to Brighton @nd getting thumped by Brentford who would have thought that possible. Things are very grim, late high priced signings unlikely to reverse where we are, just need to have faith in some of the kids.
 

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He’d be useful off the bench, pulling something out of the bag and only moaning for 20 minutes, rather than 90.

The new contract was madness. He wasn’t that bad last season but he was on the slide and was at a good point to move on.

I find the absolute determination to sell nobody ever as mental as the recruitment. It’s almost as if no one has noticed that Liverpool, Chelsea, City bring 50+ million in every summer.
 

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you know it's bad when you're getting cooked by Agbonlahor and he's not wrong

Tbh Agbonlahor seems to have just realized that roasting left and right will get you views, so it’s hard to take him seriously.
 

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Rapidly become my most dislikable player, which is pretty fecking something amongst a bunch of footballing charlatans that is the current United squad.
Never, ever looks interested. His standard resting face is one of complaint. If he spent as much time chasing the ball back or actively trying to win the ball, rather than gesticulating with his arms, he instantly be twice the player he is.
Hasn’t offered anything for over a season. His stats are 100% the reason you should never judge a player on statistics.
 

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I dropped him from my XI against Brentford, and it turned out I lost a point.
There's no way he survives selection for Liverpool though.
 

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He is really becoming very dislikable. I fully agree with Agbonlahor there.
 

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Once we get a couple of CM’s in I think Eriksen will take his spot and Bruno will either be moved to left forward or dropped altogether
 

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He has it in him to be a very good player and a game changer. I’m not guessing, I was it, we all saw it in his fist year or so at the club. He was our best player and was one of the best in the league. He was never a 10/10 player, who is? But his contribution and impact on the team was great. All of that was during a time the team was functional. We currently have a dysfunctional, shattered team that lacks chemistry. The players’ morale has hit rock bottom and unfortunately, this has impacted bruno severely. I do not agree with fans who say stats don’t matter. Stats show what players contribute (or where they fail). I think the arrival of ronaldo took away a lot of his game as he now needs to look for the best player on the pitch rather than being the best player; obviously this is not the only reason, like i said, a terrible squad which is bringing everyone down. A thing bruno needs to learn fast is to stay focused on the game and stop complaining much on the pitch, that should stop!
 

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He has it in him to be a very good player and a game changer. I’m not guessing, I was it, we all saw it in his fist year or so at the club. He was our best player and was one of the best in the league. He was never a 10/10 player, who is? But his contribution and impact on the team was great. All of that was during a time the team was functional. We currently have a dysfunctional, shattered team that lacks chemistry. The players’ morale has hit rock bottom and unfortunately, this has impacted bruno severely. I do not agree with fans who say stats don’t matter. Stats show what players contribute (or where they fail). I think the arrival of ronaldo took away a lot of his game as he now needs to look for the best player on the pitch rather than being the best player; obviously this is not the only reason, like i said, a terrible squad which is bringing everyone down. A thing bruno needs to learn fast is to stay focused on the game and stop complaining much on the pitch, that should stop!
He was never the best player. He just was the player with the most statistical contributions. He’s always impacted the team in more ways than just goals and assists and in more ways than positively.
 

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I reckon he improves once Ronaldo buggers off. His confidence has been completely shot. I’m hoping the same will happen to Sancho too.
 

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I reckon he improves once Ronaldo buggers off. His confidence has been completely shot. I’m hoping the same will happen to Sancho too.
Be interesting to see if it pans out like that. I hope it does because as much as I love what Bruno has done for the club over that first season and a half, last season and the start of this has me losing patience with him now
 

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I really do not get this continuous, lazy Ronaldo narrative regarding Bruno. Like, in real time, when you are watching the games - how often are you seeing instances of this Ronaldo submission? It’s a total myth.

What exactly is it that Ronaldo has changed from his game? Is it that he is no longer willing to shoot and instead passes to Ronaldo? Is there any evidence of this at all? He shoots plenty, he gets forward plenty, gets good goalscoring chances plenty, and often misses them. A lot of these chances are even created for him by Ronaldo!

One of his biggest assets is his creation of chances anyway. How does him looking for Ronaldo impact his ability to create chances? Is Ronaldo playing at left back or something? There is also a theory that Bruno only has a particular skillset that allows him to exclusively create chances for Marcus Rashford or Anthony Martial. This is also nonsense, and if it were true, it would only serve to expose his weaknesses as a supposed world class 10 if he can only create chances by punting it into open space for strikers to run on to. The inability to create chances for a 25 goal striker and the greatest goalscorer ever is not a testament to his ability. But it is not true anyway. Bruno has shown himself capable of creating many chances for Ronaldo, and created a fair portion of those 25 goals, particularly in the Champions League. The idea that ‘he looks for Ronaldo all the time’ is firstly not true, and secondly, not abnormal at all, given that he is our number 10 and Ronaldo is our centre forward! Who is he supposed to be looking for?!

The only thing I can think of is that the player has lost confidence and belief in himself due to sharing a pitch with Ronaldo. Which again, is an indictment on the player, not a testament. I see no reason why people should be coming out with nonsense like ‘it’s because he’s not the main man anymore, once Ronaldo fecks off bla bla’ - we should be looking to improve, and we should be looking to have a 25 goal striker in our team. If that adversely has a mental effect on Bruno, then he should perhaps be more of a team player and be more concerned with the greater good than whether he gets the most praise or attention.

Anyway, much of this doesn’t matter IMO as there is no tangible evidence for Ronaldo being responsible for Bruno performing poorly, and even the theoretical arguments have been poorly made and mainly a regurgitation of microwaveable rhetoric. What exactly is Ronaldo doing?

Or is it a problem that he now has to share penalties with Ronaldo? That wasn’t even the case at first, and Ronaldo started taking them because Bruno missed the first one. Even then, big overpowering Ronaldo stepped aside and let him take our penalty at Arsenal, which he missed also. A player is responsible for their form generally speaking, but in this case, there is not even any real strong argument of Ronaldo being accountable.
 

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If Casemiro actually happens, I think we could be best setup like this:
---------Casemiro------------
------Eriksen------Fred-----
-Sancho-------Bruno------
-------------CF------------------

That's some serious quality (assuming someone plays upfront ffs)
 

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Think we should start using him as a winger... Get him on the ball a bit less, and generally he can still put in a decent ball.
 

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It would have made sense to play Bruno as the false 9, not Eriksen, when we played Brighton.

In any case, a false 9 role for him vs Liverpool wouldn’t be the worst idea in the world.
 

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Biggest drop off in level I can remember seeing from a player. He's basically just Dele Alli now.
 

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I actually don't doubt Ronaldo has no chemistry with anyone and it actively makes certain things worse than just having a lesser player with some semblance of chemistry but many of these issues existed before. Ronaldo exacerbates the issues he already had without Ronaldo. The two issues coexist.
 

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I really do not get this continuous, lazy Ronaldo narrative regarding Bruno. Like, in real time, when you are watching the games - how often are you seeing instances of this Ronaldo submission? It’s a total myth.

What exactly is it that Ronaldo has changed from his game? Is it that he is no longer willing to shoot and instead passes to Ronaldo? Is there any evidence of this at all? He shoots plenty, he gets forward plenty, gets good goalscoring chances plenty, and often misses them. A lot of these chances are even created for him by Ronaldo!

One of his biggest assets is his creation of chances anyway. How does him looking for Ronaldo impact his ability to create chances? Is Ronaldo playing at left back or something? There is also a theory that Bruno only has a particular skillset that allows him to exclusively create chances for Marcus Rashford or Anthony Martial. This is also nonsense, and if it were true, it would only serve to expose his weaknesses as a supposed world class 10 if he can only create chances by punting it into open space for strikers to run on to. The inability to create chances for a 25 goal striker and the greatest goalscorer ever is not a testament to his ability. But it is not true anyway. Bruno has shown himself capable of creating many chances for Ronaldo, and created a fair portion of those 25 goals, particularly in the Champions League. The idea that ‘he looks for Ronaldo all the time’ is firstly not true, and secondly, not abnormal at all, given that he is our number 10 and Ronaldo is our centre forward! Who is he supposed to be looking for?!

The only thing I can think of is that the player has lost confidence and belief in himself due to sharing a pitch with Ronaldo. Which again, is an indictment on the player, not a testament. I see no reason why people should be coming out with nonsense like ‘it’s because he’s not the main man anymore, once Ronaldo fecks off bla bla’ - we should be looking to improve, and we should be looking to have a 25 goal striker in our team. If that adversely has a mental effect on Bruno, then he should perhaps be more of a team player and be more concerned with the greater good than whether he gets the most praise or attention.

Anyway, much of this doesn’t matter IMO as there is no tangible evidence for Ronaldo being responsible for Bruno performing poorly, and even the theoretical arguments have been poorly made and mainly a regurgitation of microwaveable rhetoric. What exactly is Ronaldo doing?

Or is it a problem that he now has to share penalties with Ronaldo? That wasn’t even the case at first, and Ronaldo started taking them because Bruno missed the first one. Even then, big overpowering Ronaldo stepped aside and let him take our penalty at Arsenal, which he missed also. A player is responsible for their form generally speaking, but in this case, there is not even any real strong argument of Ronaldo being accountable.
One of the benefits of Ronaldo leaving is not only that it will reduce the drama surrounding the club but it will expose the likes of Bruno and Sancho for what they really are.

Right now they are hiding behind the excuse of Ronaldo
 

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I really do not get this continuous, lazy Ronaldo narrative regarding Bruno. Like, in real time, when you are watching the games - how often are you seeing instances of this Ronaldo submission? It’s a total myth.

What exactly is it that Ronaldo has changed from his game? Is it that he is no longer willing to shoot and instead passes to Ronaldo? Is there any evidence of this at all? He shoots plenty, he gets forward plenty, gets good goalscoring chances plenty, and often misses them. A lot of these chances are even created for him by Ronaldo!

One of his biggest assets is his creation of chances anyway. How does him looking for Ronaldo impact his ability to create chances? Is Ronaldo playing at left back or something? There is also a theory that Bruno only has a particular skillset that allows him to exclusively create chances for Marcus Rashford or Anthony Martial. This is also nonsense, and if it were true, it would only serve to expose his weaknesses as a supposed world class 10 if he can only create chances by punting it into open space for strikers to run on to. The inability to create chances for a 25 goal striker and the greatest goalscorer ever is not a testament to his ability. But it is not true anyway. Bruno has shown himself capable of creating many chances for Ronaldo, and created a fair portion of those 25 goals, particularly in the Champions League. The idea that ‘he looks for Ronaldo all the time’ is firstly not true, and secondly, not abnormal at all, given that he is our number 10 and Ronaldo is our centre forward! Who is he supposed to be looking for?!

The only thing I can think of is that the player has lost confidence and belief in himself due to sharing a pitch with Ronaldo. Which again, is an indictment on the player, not a testament. I see no reason why people should be coming out with nonsense like ‘it’s because he’s not the main man anymore, once Ronaldo fecks off bla bla’ - we should be looking to improve, and we should be looking to have a 25 goal striker in our team. If that adversely has a mental effect on Bruno, then he should perhaps be more of a team player and be more concerned with the greater good than whether he gets the most praise or attention.

Anyway, much of this doesn’t matter IMO as there is no tangible evidence for Ronaldo being responsible for Bruno performing poorly, and even the theoretical arguments have been poorly made and mainly a regurgitation of microwaveable rhetoric. What exactly is Ronaldo doing?

Or is it a problem that he now has to share penalties with Ronaldo? That wasn’t even the case at first, and Ronaldo started taking them because Bruno missed the first one. Even then, big overpowering Ronaldo stepped aside and let him take our penalty at Arsenal, which he missed also. A player is responsible for their form generally speaking, but in this case, there is not even any real strong argument of Ronaldo being accountable.
For me, and I could be way of the mark with this but I’m talking more from a seniority & mental sense. Similar to how Nani improved and looked more confident the moment Ronaldo left the door in 09. Bruno just comes across to me like he just jumped into baby brother mode soon as Ronaldo arrived as if he’s almost trying to hard to impress him.
 

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He was never the best player. He just was the player with the most statistical contributions. He’s always impacted the team in more ways than just goals and assists and in more ways than positively.
he was literally voted player of the year for 2 consecutive years. He won the premier league player of the month 4 times in 2020 (if I recall, this was a record for a calendar year). He was short listed for ballon dor, he received a couple of goal of the month awards. He led a good spell under Ole which made us finish second (damn the times that made me celebrate this).

let’s agree that he has had a dip in form, a huge one, but saying he was never the best player and it was only stats is unfair. What does “only stats” mean? Aren’t stats relevant? Being top scorer and top assist maker is not relevant?

fans are emotional. Look at all threads. Even go through McTominay’s or Dalot for instance. A couple of good games last season, they got praised and people talk about them being capable of making a difference. Their form dip (their standard for me) and everyone slaughters them.

fans should just take a step back and think about the player objectively without emotions. Bruno is a very good player with certain attributes that need improvement. He also needs a functional team with proper CMs behind him. I know he’s good, I’ve seen it, no speculation here
 

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As of now I prefer eriksen in that attacking role, he's just sloppy for it to work.

I wonder if we could shift him further up the pitch or not where him losing balls won't be that much of a concern.
 

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For me, and I could be way of the mark with this but I’m talking more from a seniority & mental sense. Similar to how Nani improved and looked more confident the moment Ronaldo left the door in 09. Bruno just comes across to me like he just jumped into baby brother mode soon as Ronaldo arrived as if he’s almost trying to hard to impress him.
I don’t really get that personally, but also, respectfully - that just sounds like one of those things that are easy to say, and sound plausible, and a lot more difficult to justify. If indeed that is your take on the last 12 months, could you perhaps elaborate on it a little, as to what it actually looks like in real terms?
 

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I don’t really get that personally, but also, respectfully - that just sounds like one of those things that are easy to say, and sound plausible, and a lot more difficult to justify. If indeed that is your take on the last 12 months, could you perhaps elaborate on it a little, as to what it actually looks like in real terms?
Well I've noticed on a regular basis he often trys to pick Ronaldo out, when is its absolutely the wrong pass/descion. It definitely looks like he is thinking far too much about feeding Ronaldo rather than playing his own game. It's worrying tbh
 
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