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He is looking good again, but I'm still not convinced we can be league winners again with Rashford leading the line. Will he soon be edged out of the team? Antony will surely make RW his own. Sancho, who I thought we bought for the RW I guess will play LW. When Martial is fit again its between Rashford/Martial and Ronaldo for the #9 position. Looks like Ronaldo will be used sparingly, so does that leave Rashford and Ronaldo battling it out for a starting spot as striker or back-up LW?
 

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Remember when some people wanted to cancel his contract to make room for Cody Gakpo....
 

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I think being good on the break isnt just Rashford, excluding Antony who know little about, that is the strength of ou rattack, pace and fast balls trhough the line. We are set up well to play some of the bigger teams if we can perform.....but playing sides who get behind the ball and dont go foward in such bigger numbers is more of a concern. We can forget the first two games really, but Leicester we really struggled to create anything.

I am certainly not conviced Rashford is a striker, or htat we can rely on Martial when he comesback fit. Oe that Fernandes will continue the decisive passes against certain sides.

I was 100% for selling both Rashford and Martial this summer, and not sure in all honesty that my mind will be changed this season, same even mroe so with Dalot who I have always thought was garbage, similar with McTominay.

But, let not go overboard, we beat a poor Liverpool, struggled past Leicester and got absolutely battered by Arsenal at times....but we have won all of those games, the attitude and work rate has been good amd though the football has not been perfect, improvements are beign made and the worth ethic and desire that has rubbed of from some of the new signings and management on to some of these players is working so far, we are seeing genuine effort and desire, so I really dont think we can criticise them at the moment....though I agee with what you are saying and I have been a staunch critic of many, not going to sing there praises after three games, but as much as they have deserved criticism for some time.....they are doing ok at the moment
I agree and suspect time will sort out the overreactions. it's the same player he was against Leicester. His weaknesses didn't just disappear under one week he just got to play in his ideal setup. We have a few whose performances get progressively worse the higher our possession. I don't think we've even gotten close to fixing that problem.
 
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He is looking good again, but I'm still not convinced we can be league winners again with Rashford leading the line. Will he soon be edged out of the team? Antony will surely make RW his own. Sancho, who I thought we bought for the RW I guess will play LW. When Martial is fit again its between Rashford/Martial and Ronaldo for the #9 position. Looks like Ronaldo will be used sparingly, so does that leave Rashford and Ronaldo battling it out for a starting spot as striker or back-up LW?
Sancho is the man who will currently be out in the cold I would expect. It will be Rashford-Martial-Antony as the starting front three if everyone is fit, with Sancho covering LW and RW as first change. They will all get plenty of minutes though, as we are still arguably one forward short.
 

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Rashford scores goals against Arsenal and Liverpool, one team unbeaten in the league all calendar year and the other with a 100% record this season.

Caf reaction - yeah, those teams are easy for Rashford to play against. We will really judge his talent when we play Bournemouth or Chester away in the cup.
 
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. Regs has been sitting on the “I told you so’s” for this thread for presumably over 400 days..
No-one said I told you so and your post was less than 30 days old.
You predicted him to be utter shite over the next few weeks and the excuses were gone, instead he’s scored v Liverpool, assisted v Leicester and assisted + scored a brace v Arsenal.

I said “this post aged well”, and you lost your arse you big softy.
 

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He is looking good again, but I'm still not convinced we can be league winners again with Rashford leading the line. Will he soon be edged out of the team? Antony will surely make RW his own. Sancho, who I thought we bought for the RW I guess will play LW. When Martial is fit again its between Rashford/Martial and Ronaldo for the #9 position. Looks like Ronaldo will be used sparingly, so does that leave Rashford and Ronaldo battling it out for a starting spot as striker or back-up LW?
If are forwards where fit Rashford wouldn't be leading the line for us, Rashford will be competing with Sancho for the left spot more than likely.
 

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Rashford scores goals against Arsenal and Liverpool, one team unbeaten in the league all calendar year and the other with a 100% record this season.

Caf reaction - yeah, those teams are easy for Rashford to play against. We will really judge his talent when we play Bournemouth or Chester away in the cup.
So true :lol:
 

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Criticisms of Rashford as an ST are odd, because it's clear he's deputizing there due to our lack of options at the position due to Martial's injury, and ETH needing to demonstrate to Ronaldo he's not going to kowtow to him. Obviously we know he struggles with various elements of what you want and need from an ST in terms of hold up play, linking in possession, awareness and movement in the box, etc. Reality is in an ideal world that's not where he'd be playing or what we'd ask of him.

With all that said, if he's helping us turn the tide and win games with goals and assists while operating out of position then he deserves credit, not nitpicking criticism, for helping the team come through a difficult period in a position he's not best suited to.
 

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He is looking good again, but I'm still not convinced we can be league winners again with Rashford leading the line. Will he soon be edged out of the team? Antony will surely make RW his own. Sancho, who I thought we bought for the RW I guess will play LW. When Martial is fit again its between Rashford/Martial and Ronaldo for the #9 position. Looks like Ronaldo will be used sparingly, so does that leave Rashford and Ronaldo battling it out for a starting spot as striker or back-up LW?
I think you'll be surprised, I think it will be Sancho dropping to the bench and Martial up top.

I use to think it would be Sancho left Martial up top but from the way Ten Hag talks about Rashford and the fact he plays 90 every week even when Ronaldo comes on it seems he much prefers his physical profile up top over Sancho's.
 

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No-one said I told you so and your post was less than 30 days old.
You predicted him to be utter shite over the next few weeks and the excuses were gone, instead he’s scored v Liverpool, assisted v Leicester and assisted + scored a brace v Arsenal.

I said “this post aged well”, and you lost your arse you big softy.
Come to deans gate square 6pm Saturday and see if I’m a big softy..
 

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He was better against Arsenal than for a very long time. He even went up for a header. I liked the way he moved as soon as Bruno got the ball. And the pass to Anthony too. Hopefully he has turned a corner.
 

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We all know this guy is decent against a high line. I am telling you that we will struggle to break down crystal palace with him in the team. He should be a sub, not a starter.
 

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Rashford scores goals against Arsenal and Liverpool, one team unbeaten in the league all calendar year and the other with a 100% record this season.

Caf reaction - yeah, those teams are easy for Rashford to play against. We will really judge his talent when we play Bournemouth or Chester away in the cup.
Otherwise known as sustainability, translating your talents to be functional weekly. This is the same flaw that allowed ole to beat PSG, RB, then end up in the Europa league
 

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Ralf is the only manager overlooking him when he is match fit, even Jose had to sent him on in those critical moments.
 

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Ralf is the only manager overlooking him when he is match fit, even Jose had to sent him on in those critical moments.
Ralf didn't ovelook him in his first month or two. He and Ronaldo were priority. His first games had that 4222 formation that played everyone but them out of position. Ronaldo asking to leave might have been the best thing to happen to ETH, he didn't have to make it work from the start. Once Ralf went back to lone striker formations Ronaldo starting and finishing every game never allowed Rashford to subbed in centrally. His high maintenance is honestly why I don't mind if he never makes it back to the XI.
 
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Didn’t post after the game as have been busy, but let’s face it against Arsenal he was fantastic. He was less intense than the wide forwards regarding work rate but I put this down to being central where it’s more intense covering both directions than one when you are out wide. When he went out wide when Ronaldo came on his pressuring was much better.

I feel like there’s a middle ground between the posters who use any good performances to start calling anyone who criticised his performances are ‘cnuts’(ridiculous behaviour btw) and then those who are convinced he’s ‘championship quality through and through. I’ve always thought he has the talent and skill set to be a top player but was immensely frustrated by an absolute catalogue of dire performances.

it’s twice under Ten Hag he has been outstanding, albeit both were against low block teams with his pace on the counter attack. But I do believe he has what it takes to play in a possession based side against low blocks. His recent assists show (as I’ve always said tbf) that his passing is underrated and he can pick the occasional worldie pass.

Basically I think that if anyone can convert him into the consistent player we need it’s Ten Hag, who did allude to the massive potential improvements that are still required from Rashford. He still has a way to go to justify his status in the side and its fair enough that some are skeptics as the number of performances that have been nothing short of dreadful, often coupled with poor work rate entirely justify this. However signs are promising and will be interesting/exciting to see what some good coaching will do to his overall level and consistency.

tldr; past criticism is justified based on performances, but his talent is if anything underrated and now it’s exciting to see how he develops under Ten Hag.
 

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Didn’t post after the game as have been busy, but let’s face it against Arsenal he was fantastic. He was less intense than the wide forwards regarding work rate but I put this down to being central where it’s more intense covering both directions than one when you are out wide. When he went out wide when Ronaldo came on his pressuring was much better.

I feel like there’s a middle ground between the posters who use any good performances to start calling anyone who criticised his performances are ‘cnuts’(ridiculous behaviour btw) and then those who are convinced he’s ‘championship quality through and through. I’ve always thought he has the talent and skill set to be a top player but was immensely frustrated by an absolute catalogue of dire performances.

it’s twice under Ten Hag he has been outstanding, albeit both were against low block teams with his pace on the counter attack. But I do believe he has what it takes to play in a possession based side against low blocks. His recent assists show (as I’ve always said tbf) that his passing is underrated and he can pick the occasional worldie pass.

Basically I think that if anyone can convert him into the consistent player we need it’s Ten Hag, who did allude to the massive potential improvements that are still required from Rashford. He still has a way to go to justify his status in the side and its fair enough that some are skeptics as the number of performances that have been nothing short of dreadful, often coupled with poor work rate entirely justify this. However signs are promising and will be interesting/exciting to see what some good coaching will do to his overall level and consistency.

tldr; past criticism is justified based on performances, but his talent is if anything underrated and now it’s exciting to see how he develops under Ten Hag.
Great post
 

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Didn’t post after the game as have been busy, but let’s face it against Arsenal he was fantastic. He was less intense than the wide forwards regarding work rate but I put this down to being central where it’s more intense covering both directions than one when you are out wide. When he went out wide when Ronaldo came on his pressuring was much better.

I feel like there’s a middle ground between the posters who use any good performances to start calling anyone who criticised his performances are ‘cnuts’(ridiculous behaviour btw) and then those who are convinced he’s ‘championship quality through and through. I’ve always thought he has the talent and skill set to be a top player but was immensely frustrated by an absolute catalogue of dire performances.

it’s twice under Ten Hag he has been outstanding, albeit both were against low block teams with his pace on the counter attack. But I do believe he has what it takes to play in a possession based side against low blocks. His recent assists show (as I’ve always said tbf) that his passing is underrated and he can pick the occasional worldie pass.

Basically I think that if anyone can convert him into the consistent player we need it’s Ten Hag, who did allude to the massive potential improvements that are still required from Rashford. He still has a way to go to justify his status in the side and its fair enough that some are skeptics as the number of performances that have been nothing short of dreadful, often coupled with poor work rate entirely justify this. However signs are promising and will be interesting/exciting to see what some good coaching will do to his overall level and consistency.

tldr; past criticism is justified based on performances, but his talent is if anything underrated and now it’s exciting to see how he develops under Ten Hag.
Exceptional post
 

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I thought with Antony and Sancho in his second season, he will finally hit the bench, but looks like he will be a starter for another season.

is Rooney the last attacker that we signed for big money(at the time) that actually worked? Or I guess Fernandes.
 

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Marcus Rashford looking a good bet to be our leading scorer this season. The GOAT is no longer up to it.
 

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The fact that he scores and creates in a team which has so much difficulty doing so, it'd be silly to keep him out the side. Ronaldo should be on the bench as backup for Martial and Marcus.
 

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Assume Rashford pulled his hamstring after all given he wasn’t on the bench although I’m sure I read he had been seen training?!
 

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After Martial’s recent interview, it’s now obvious Ole brainwashed all these guys to be playing while not fully fit which I find pretty irresponsible
 

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We knew Marcus played through injury, but when he decided to do that for England he was outcast by so many forum fans. He carried us over a period when nobody else did at a young age, I was very disappointed with the knee jerk reaction when he didn't instantly bounce back. He's a youth product who has turned up in big games time and time again, seems like a smashing lad who did us proud over COVID and looks like he might well be on his way back. I think it's bonkers that we're not all united in cheering him on. Will he do it? Nobody knows, but love this guy and really hope he can play a part here for a long time. He's definitely more of a left winger than a pressing forward, but in the absence of Ronaldo and Martial, he's scored the goals in the big games when it's mattered. Great to see and credit to him.
 

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After Martial’s recent interview, it’s now obvious Ole brainwashed all these guys to be playing while not fully fit which I find pretty irresponsible
If it happened, it was certainly going on with Mourinho. He publicly criticised players for not wanting to play when not fully fit. Top sportsmen in most sports are rarely without any niggles at all.

I agree there is a line that should be drawn. Ole’s main problem in connection with this was that he didn’t rotate or use subs to rest his best players because he perceived the drop off to be too great. It wasn’t sustainable. I disagree with most of the negative comments about Ole but I do think he failed in his long-term use of the squad, frequently playing the best players into exhaustion. I could understand why he was doing it but in the end it caused more problems than it solved.
 

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Allowing Rashford to play through that injury was truly stupid idiotic stuff. If ever I saw a situation where a player could sue a manager. It was so obvious and blatant incompetence. With back injuries the likelihood of ever returning to 100% with plenty of rest and recovery is low enough without a coach making it worse. The irony of having his best season under Ole was how much he might have hampered him long term. Even the technical and tactical side is crazy underdeveloped. Like watching an academy player out there. Those are 3 years of development time he'll never get back.
 

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Rashford, and every other young developing players need help from coaches who actually know what they’re doing. If Marcus can get his body and mind right we know what we have. Finally we have people in charge we can trust to do just that.
 

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Manager clearly rates him.


No manager has never not rated Rashford, okay maybe at first anyway. His destiny has always been in his hands. Let's see if ETH can be the one to raise his general game and decisions. He'll however always be a better option than current Ronaldo.
 
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