It’ll probably be like Varane where he’ll be one of our best and most important players next season. For me the same thing applies though, I just don’t enjoy these short term mega wage signings. They rarely ever live up to the hype or expense and are only here because we are paying him more than Madrid were willing to. I don’t ever expect him to be a fancy player but I do expect him to become one of our fittest and hardest working players. He was nowhere close to that tonight obviously.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Madrid robbed us regardless of what Casmeiro does here. 70m for a 30 years old player is ultimate stupidity that only Man United can do. We spend a lot, but we spend a lot in an idiotic way that hurts the team in the long run and that's why we never get results worthy of such money spent. For that stupid amount of money we could have signed a longer term option.
Still, I think he has enough quality to benefit the team for one or two years. He's good. No doubt about it. There's no question his quality. He will never be good enough at this age for such stupid price tag though, and in 2-3 years we will end up with a 70m deadwood whom we will struggle to move on due to his salary.
Can’t possibly tell you just how relieved I am right now. Was stirring in bed all night wondering if Replenish would let me off easy
He was extremely important to us in the CL last season and was MotM in his last game for Madrid this season.
You assume United would force a player on EtH. There is no evidence of this. Infact it seems the opposite is true.
I’m a bit of a player assesser myself … I especially enjoy observing young players trying to make a name for themselves … Do you have any opinions on Peter, Arribas or Latassa (all 3 from Real Madrid)?
He was MotM in his last game for Madrid this year. He was an important contributor to our success last year. The overwhelming majority of Madridistas were pissed off that we sold him with no replacement, leaving our DM light once again.
THIS!
A DM needs time to understand his teammates’ runs so he can cover for them. He is still adjusting and United only have themselves to blame for buying him so late.
A great DM is one who is never noticed by the audience. Casemiro is a supporting actor, a helper, a platform for artists like Modric. His job has always been to keep things ticking over with short, safe passes in possession and to become the first line of tackling when we are out of possession. He just needs a little time to settle and assess his teammates’ playing style.
Anybody doubting Casemiro is mental. The guy is clearly lacking fitness and match rhythm. The tricky part is getting him up to speed while keeping the team performing - that's why they pay ETH the big bucks. He'll be more than fine in a few weeks I reckon. The guy is class.
It's unbelievable that posters are writing off Casemiro already - after we have Madrid fans posting here about how important he was to their team barely a few months ago.
You need to remember their names in a few months' time. It's just dumb. It's like they think they are being so clever for making such premature infantile comments. Embarassing. He's 30, not 40y.o
Can you imagine if their bosses judged them on their first hour at the job?
Strange to say this, but right now Mctominay is better.
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It’s the caf. If a player doesn’t immediately put in 10/10 performances, he’s a bust and should be binned.
No matter that he’s coming from a different league, isn’t match fit, and his first start coming with a team with an unfamiliar lineup with other players similarly short of match practice/fitness.
The dumbing down of the Caf.
I thought he wasn't nearly as bad as other people seem to think tonight. Pretty much everything we did decently in the first half involved him (Eriksen's cross to Cristiano for the offside goal for instance). 2nd half he faded, which is not shocking, though I don't totally understand why he wouldn't be fit. He got ready for the Madrid season, was apparently the man of the match in the Super Cup and has had a few weeks. They say you can't simulate match fitness, but that seems absurd?
Obviously paying 60M for a 30 year old DM after Madrid bought a great 22 year old is amazing. You can do this once when you spend like us and there's a new manager with a gaping hole in the squad, but we really shouldn't do it ever again. The RB, GK, #8 and #9 we need we have to be brave on and buy younger, less accomplished players with their best years ahead of them.
Obviously paying 60M for a 30 year old DM after Madrid bought a great 22 year old is amazing. You can do this once when you spend like us and there's a new manager with a gaping hole in the squad, but we really shouldn't do it ever again. The RB, GK, #8 and #9 we need we have to be brave on and buy younger, less accomplished players with their best years ahead of them.
There's a reason why Sao Paolo let him go
Sure, but that would apply to anyone having underwhelming/less convincing performances so far too, including Antony and Ronaldo I guess.
My gf goes to a different school, you guys wouldn't know her.
I will laugh my head off if James Garner stars for Everton
some fans’ opinions about a player change from one performance to the other. It’s his first start and he is clearly lacking match fitness. He’ll get up to speed for sure. I’d like to see him
getting introduced to the team playing in the premier league, probably instead of mctominay. ETH seems to be doing this gradually
I like Peter but sadly he has no opportunities, at least he could play against teams from the bottom. Before Asensio who is leaving next year.
If he's had a pre season with Madrid then, plus training with us and some minutes, it's very strange to look so out of shape.
I'm not writing him off. It's just odd he looks that immobile.
I'm not writing him off. It's just odd he looks that immobile.
That was a shocking performance really. Not surprised because he's been very poor in his first few weeks here.
Meh performance, off the pace, we might see some moments of quality in a defensive positioning (Fred's horrible back pass, Case was alert and was in position inside the box), also some nice passes through the lines and all that, we also saw misplaced passes, easily dribbled past/ran past, overall he really wasn't anywhere near a "Best DM" level, hopefully it is just the time he needs to gel with the team, for now, McTominay starts ahead of him, sadly.
Some shocking instants, yet some very positive passes with pace and intent, I think he will come good eventually.
Wasn't half as bad as some make it out to be. Wasn't brilliant and he looked slow at times but off the ball his aggression was good.
Reckon we should give a long rope to signings from abroad who have come in very late into the window and had little to no pre season with the rest of the team.
In this instance it includes Casemiero and Anthony. They will have very little rhythm and play time behind them and the very best of them will only be visible next year. But they will improve week on week, as the chemistry with the squad builds up
In this instance it includes Casemiero and Anthony. They will have very little rhythm and play time behind them and the very best of them will only be visible next year. But they will improve week on week, as the chemistry with the squad builds up
He’s actually really solid defensively. Apart from Martinez our most solid player I thought in the tackles when he came on.
Casemiro did absolutely fine. Probably had our best shot of the game too since nobody else was shooting.
Casemiro did absolutely fine. Probably had our best shot of the game too since nobody else was shooting.
Is he not used to people closing him down that quickly? Just looks like the pace of the game is too fast for him. Probably because when there's Modric and Kroos in the team, you tend to have a fraction more time and space with the ball, I don't know, I'm speculating.
Defensively he looked okay, shielded he defense well.
Defensively he looked okay, shielded he defense well.
He was literally playing against a fairly average la liga team! I don't think that should present a new challenge to him....
there's not an ounce of fat on him ffs.
That's not what I said, I was talking about him not having Kroos and Modric around him and as a result being closed down a lot quicker. Our players do get exposed in possession anyway, on top of it if I was the opposition, I'd be thinking, "what are you going to do if I close you down, pass it to Fred?"
Anyone doubting Casemiro must have been doubting Varane last season as well. Anyone will look bad playing with Maguire and last night`s version of Fred
Quality in players like him always shows eventually even if it takes a little more time than expected
Quality in players like him always shows eventually even if it takes a little more time than expected
Looked a little off the pace but Sociedad were bang at it and even with his rustiness he was still quite good.
I hope we get to see him in a match from the start with the best players around him. He shielded the defence well but he had a woeful cb pair behind him at the beginning and fred as the link up between mid and attack.
Look at McTominay now compared to last season. Having Eriksen beside him and Varane and Martinez behind means the world.
Look at McTominay now compared to last season. Having Eriksen beside him and Varane and Martinez behind means the world.
Bakayokomiro.
Just looks a bit rusty and off the pace to me.
Will revisit in a few weeks and see where we are at.
That said it’s the Caf so we should all be going crazy and demanding Ten Hags head I imagine.
Will revisit in a few weeks and see where we are at.
That said it’s the Caf so we should all be going crazy and demanding Ten Hags head I imagine.
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