Unless he desperately wants to return to Germany I don't see why Tuchel would consider Leipzig. And he hasn't even been sacked yet either.
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He was sacked today as well
Oh damn, that's so tragic. Still, his name should remain in good standing, he can probably watch the carousel spin for a while and something good will come up eventually.He was sacked today as well
Real Madrid needs a new manager for next season...
Hermann Gerland has written a book - or a book was written with him. The excerpt in the "FAZ sounds great. I am for sure buying it!
https://zeitung.faz.net/fas/sport/2022-09-04/18fe80c26eb67f3589910cb2fffa0049/?GEPC=Share_SMS
https://zeitung.faz.net/fas/sport/2022-09-04/18fe80c26eb67f3589910cb2fffa0049/?GEPC=Share_SMS
Hmm... If red bull sign Eberl as their director of football, I'm not so sure he wants to work with Rose again. After all Rose played a significant part in his breakdown.
Well..
I would be smug about it, but with Hradecky everyone must have seen it coming. If I remember correctly his mistake against Moscow back then was during the first game, too.
I felt like it was inevitable Leverkusen would go for Ortega last window, I'd really like to know if they made a serious offer to him.
I also imagine that "Komfortzone" is trending on werkself right now.
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Yeah, I really hoped they would go for Ortega as well. Can't wrap my head around how they can ignore Hradecky's error proneness when it is so obvious.I would be smug about it, but with Hradecky everyone must have seen it coming. If I remember correctly his mistake against Moscow back then was during the first game, too.
I felt like it was inevitable Leverkusen would go for Ortega last window, I'd really like to know if they made a serious offer to him.
I also imagine that "Komfortzone" is trending on werkself right now.
[smugmode]Knowing we get to enjoy this for another 4 years...priceless, mwhahahaCologne showing again why ultras are the secret USP of German football @do.ob
Apparently Ultras from Paris travelled disguised as Cologne fans to create trouble. Tells you more about the issues in French football then in German.
You think Germany is the only country with so-called ultras?
Not really as they are from a group that is forbidden in the PSG stadium today but since 2003 - Supraa Auteuil - has a friendship with Cologne ultra groups... Even showed banners in the stadium.
And there were BVB ultras, too.
I think it is issues in all football countries. Some just control it better!
Thousands of travelling fans and some idiots...
What's with Union Berlin and European football? I'd think they really wouldn't have to lose to Union St-Gilloise at home...? Heavily rotated team?
They didn't rotate a lot. I didn't watch the game, so I can't give you a very good answer, but the fact that they just had a tough game against Bayern and that they probably were supposed to dominate this game are probably both factors that worked against them.
This obviously must never happen, but I don't see the impact on the bigger picture. Especially since it was a small group and I assume this was also only possible, because French authorities failed their job.
As long as it stays an isolated incidents and between trouble seekers themselves, then I don't think it's going to hurt marketing too much.
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You just called ultras in Germany „unique“ which means it‘s the only country with them. That is obviously wrong so I simply don’t get the use of the word „unique“.
USP doesn't mean that no other competitor has whatever your USP is. The USP of WhatsApp is that it has the biggest user base but that doesn't mean Telegram has no users at all. And the great atmosphere (which @do.ob attributes to the ultras) is often cited as something that differentiates the Bundeslga from the EPL for example.
It depends on how you phrase the question and other things, if we're talking about atmosphere as in active support/noise/choreos, then I'd say that maybe things are different at Leverkusen these days and I suspect Leipzig may have hired some entertainer straight off Ballermann, but I think if you look at any conventional home stand, you'll see one or two blocks with organized fans, who are going non-stop and usually have a drum/Capo and then it radiates out from there, getting quiter/more passive the further it gets away form that block.
So if you look at it from that angle, then it's pretty obvious that the atmosphere indeed comes from organized fans.
If we're defining atmosphere in a broader sense (e.g. including ticket/food/beer prices and the demographic in stadiums) then that's more directly related to 50+1, though even there it could be argued that it's organized fans, who use their soft power to make sure that prices stay as low as possible and the overall experience remains as stadium goer friendly as possible (e.g. kickoff times).
Funny that you always direct side blows at Leverkusen in this discussion. Did you know Leverkusen was actually among the very first German clubs with ultra groups?
I also believe you overestimate how difficult it is to get a drunk crowd to sing and shout.
Well if Leverkusen indeed have a functioning organized fan scene, then I don't know how you can make the comments that you make. Because every time you visit a stadium it should be pretty obvious where the activity on the stands comes from.
Which doesn't mean that the activity on the stands wouldn't happen without ultras. How come there are dozens of sports without ultra culture that still have great atmosphere?
Are there even a dozen (as opposed to your use of the plural
) sports in Europe that fetch crowds nearly as big as football? That have this great atmosphere without some kind of lead?England doesn't appear to have organized fans in the German sense, a few weeks ago I read a post praising the atmosphere at a... ...Hertha game! H-E-R-T-H-A! I don't know if you've ever been at a game where the organized fans were banned or protesting something, but in my experience it sounds like a tennis court.
Leipzig leads Dortmund 1-0
That push by Ozcan on Werner could have been a penalty
That push by Ozcan on Werner could have been a penalty
Did the Bayern players go to war or something. Tel, Gnabry, De ligt, Mazraoui all have heavy cast on plus Kimmich with a big black eye.
Werner looks very lively. Haven't seen much of him this season but he's causing trouble all over the place.
Modeste just doesn't look like a Dortmund striker
Werner is still werner
I'm shocked Szobolzlai (know I fecked up his name) hasn't established himself more at Leipzig. He looked great at Salzburg and I expected him to be leaving Leipzig by now but he hasn't kicked on at all yet. Great goal today.
Modeste starting over Moukoko really furthers my belief that Moukoko isn't anything great at senior level. Modeste hasn't been great at all but is still starting over apparently one of the biggest talents in the world.
Technically he shouldn't be, only signed at the last minute because Haller got diagnosed with cancer.
Modeste starting over Moukoko really furthers my belief that Moukoko isn't anything great at senior level. Modeste hasn't been great at all but is still starting over apparently one of the biggest talents in the world.
What a goal by Szoboszlai. Surely goal of the weekend.
His Leipzig career has been disappointing so far. I expected more. Same with Dani Olmo
That's typical Werner runs around cause trouble till it's time to shoot
Olmo has been decent though, wasn't he rumored to be off interest to Barca lately? I didn't think he would be a top player though but Szobozlai I thought would, Olmo usually starts over him as well.
The hype that came with Olmos signing has not been justified by performance. I recall many top teams interested but Leipzig signed him for 30m
Szobozlai was the main man in Salzburg attack, he was injured for a while but post injury he hasn't lit things up for Leupzig
With Sesko coming next season one of their attackers will have to make way. Szobozlai Olmo Silva are shaky. Werner won't be sold, though Nkunku might leave if he has a great season again
Who was it that claimed how harsh refs are on Bayern ?
?Yeah I thought Moukoko looked decent against Leverkusen in that first game. Should have been preferred over Modeste
Kimmich should feel very lucky to get away with this. It was also completely unnecessary, he still was in control of the situation.
Kimmich pulled back goal won't count
Pulled back