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To be fair, despite the heroic acts of Ukrainians fighting for their own country, Ukraine as a country would not exist right now if not for an intense, ongoing infusion of primarily US weapons throughout the past 8 months. Even with extensive foreign support, the Russians still managed to get to the outskirts of Kyiv in March. Had they managed another 20km, the Capital and government would've fallen and the Russians would've ostensibly taken over all of Ukraine.
Your gonna struggle to get your weapons used without willing Ukrainians at the trigger end.
 

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So Ukraine is having scheduled blackouts now, severe damage to energy infrastructure done by the barrage of missiles and drones in the last week or so (I would guess more damage than we know) and I think it will get much much worse as winter approaches. Those Iranian drones are very cheap, shooting them down costs a lot more and Russia can just keep sending them in for quite some time. Is there even any cost effective way to defend against it? Surely using Iris or NASAMS is a complete waste?
 

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So Ukraine is having scheduled blackouts now, severe damage to energy infrastructure done by the barrage of missiles and drones in the last week or so (I would guess more damage than we know) and I think it will get much much worse as winter approaches. Those Iranian drones are very cheap, shooting them down costs a lot more and Russia can just keep sending them in for quite some time. Is there even any cost effective way to defend against it? Surely using Iris or NASAMS is a complete waste?
Sabotage the factory that makes them?
 

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So Ukraine is having scheduled blackouts now, severe damage to energy infrastructure done by the barrage of missiles and drones in the last week or so (I would guess more damage than we know) and I think it will get much much worse as winter approaches. Those Iranian drones are very cheap, shooting them down costs a lot more and Russia can just keep sending them in for quite some time. Is there even any cost effective way to defend against it? Surely using Iris or NASAMS is a complete waste?
Time for Ukraine to start bombing Russian cities. This time will come in my opinion, it's just a question of when.
 

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Time for Ukraine to start bombing Russian cities. This time will come in my opinion, it's just a question of when.
Considering its historical value since the days of the Tsars, Sevastopol is the big juicy target to strike first if Ukraine wants to send a strong message.
 

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Why is the official Ukraine governmental account tweeting memes about British politics? This is so dumb.
They love Boris. One of the few things he did right was not dilly dally around the Russian issue and be very outspoken in his support. In reality I think it just shows we still have a world class intelligence service and he was just aware of what was coming versus the Macron’s of the world.
 

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They love Boris. One of the few things he did right was not dilly dally around the Russian issue and be very outspoken in his support. In reality I think it just shows we still have a world class intelligence service and he was just aware of what was coming versus the Macron’s of the world.
Wasn't the intelligence mainly from US sources ?
 

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Boris represented a Tory Party massively compromised by the Russian state, and I wonder whether he would have been bothered if he wasn't under pressure at home. I don't blame Ukraine for doing anything possible to survive this Russian genocide. It just grates. There is political unity in the UK - even if Labour got in I don't see the level of assistance changing. In fact I would bet Labour would do more to avoid being seen as soft on defence.
 

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Wasn't the intelligence mainly from US sources ?
It was generally referred to as both by the media. Not sure there’s too much difference when it comes to intelligence on Russia specially as undoubtedly there’ll be huge amounts of information sharing.
 

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I don't know about that. Raoul is posting from a nation who elected Donald Trump, so this seems pretty on brand.
Please don't do that to him :lol:

I didn't feel offended by him posting that, there is no reason to make fun of him that way :lol:
 

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How possible is Russian offensive in the north or north east (Kharkiv region) some time soon or in the spring?
 

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How possible is Russian offensive in the north or north east (Kharkiv region) some time soon or in the spring?
At this point it's very unlikely Russia has any capabilities of any serious offensive and Ukraine will be prepared much better as well. They couldn't properly support their troops at the beginning of the invasion, losing thousands of armoured vehicles, tanks, fuel trucks etc. would surely not help the case. Not to mention that the new influx of troops should be a lot less motivated, experienced and equipped.
 

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At this point it's very unlikely Russia has any capabilities of any serious offensive and Ukraine will be prepared much better as well. They couldn't properly support their troops at the beginning of the invasion, losing thousands of armoured vehicles, tanks, fuel trucks etc. would surely not help the case. Not to mention that the new influx of troops should be a lot less motivated, experienced and equipped.
Yeah makes sense, their tactic now seems to be to destroy as much as Ukraine as they can.
 

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How possible is Russian offensive in the north or north east (Kharkiv region) some time soon or in the spring?
North would mean Belarus, just read a nice thread on the situation there:
In summary there isn't an increase in troops at the border, Russian mobiks send to Belarus are going to training bases, not near the border and Belarus is handing heavy equipment over to Russia instead of concentrating it at a possible new front. So Belarus is actually losing attacking potential for the future as well. There won't be any new attack on Kyiv soon and even later it seems unlikely.
 

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I forget who said it, but when Russia made that last push from the Kherson area towards Odessa and it failed, months ago, he said that would be the last major offensive Russia would be able to muster.

And he was right, so far.
 

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They love Boris. One of the few things he did right was not dilly dally around the Russian issue and be very outspoken in his support. In reality I think it just shows we still have a world class intelligence service and he was just aware of what was coming versus the Macron’s of the world.
It was a very useful and convenient distraction from the multiple domestic crises he was dealing with when Russia invaded.
 

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Seems strange they would be there, it's very likely where the next big offensive will take place. Although I suppose there's some uncertainty surrounding the dam and all of that.
 

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How possible is Russian offensive in the north or north east (Kharkiv region) some time soon or in the spring?
Bakhmut may fall to the Russians though and it is their current offensive but who knows what they will do next.

I think they may still have some capacity to do another major offensive somewhere.