[Passitlikescholes]

He was much, much better than his previous performances (since his return from injury).

Unlucky with the one on one, pickford did really well to come of his line very fast and put Martial off. Martial had taken a heavier touch because he thought he was in space and would have had more time but the pace at which pickford came out shut that time down.

Is doing well holding up and linking the play up. Probably still needs to be a little bit more active

 

[bosnian_red]

One big thing that he does bring is getting the best out of Rashford. Both Bruno and Rashford perform far better with Martial in the team than without him

 

[dabronxolivera]

Chica looked spent under Van Gaal but before that he was great for us. The thing about Berbatov was he was so talented he made everything look easy and therefore it made him look lazy. He was an incredibly intelligent player.
Reminds me I’d probably even take a peak Tevez despite hating him.

Prime Tevez would make us instantly title contender imo. He's a grade A cnut but an absolutely talented one

 

[CallyRed]

The French Bobby Firmino

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Being mentioned by ten Hag about how importance Martial is and also mentioned Rashford is also getting the benefit of it.

 

[Raven]

Being mentioned by ten Hag about how importance Martial is and also mentioned Rashford is also getting the benefit of it.

This is surely clear to anyone who watches the game for anything other than goals and assists. I do still feel he needs to improve not just in terms of his goal scoring but also his touch has seemed off since he's been back.

 

[Threesus]

One big thing that he does bring is getting the best out of Rashford. Both Bruno and Rashford perform far better with Martial in the team than without him

I think rashford and Bruno just need a quality striker to get the best out of their game. You don’t think a harry kane, Ivan toney or firmino can do the role martial is doing?

Yesterday I was watching some of our highlights in the 12-13 season, and I am sorry, but martial is nowhere near RVP. That’s the caliber of player we need at Utd.

 

[bosnian_red]

I think rashford and Bruno just need a quality striker to get the best out of their game. You don’t think a harry kane, Ivan toney or firmino can do the role martial is doing?

Yesterday I was watching some of our highlights in the 12-13 season, and I am sorry, but martial is nowhere near RVP. That’s the caliber of player we need at Utd.

I don't think you'll find any argument there. But it's important to keep in mind when you look for targets or judge Martials level. Just because he doesn't score as many as we want, doesn't mean he is useless and easily replaced. I see people say they want Vlahović or mitrovic or Osimhen or Felix or lautaro or toney etc. They all have very different qualities, and all would change how we play and impact Bruno and Rashford in different ways. Martial compliments them, and I'd lean for someone who can compliment them going forward. Obviously someone like Kane is the best of both worlds, but Osimhen is obviously class, but i have no doubt that he would clash with Rashford in terms of the role he likes taking up. While Kane would get the best of Rashford.

Martial is decent, not the level to settle for, but at the same time will be very hard and expensive to replace properly. Getting someone who just scores more isn't necessarily improving us as a team.

 

[Slik]

Martial was really good vs Everton. All he lacked was a goal to cap off his performance. But he held up play and brought team mates into play so well. Ten Hag loves how Martial plays. Even if he is not scoring, his play helps others to score and that’s why we are winning. No complains as long as he is helping the team win. He doesn’t have to score if he can help others score.

 

[tom8888sa]

I don't think you'll find any argument there. But it's important to keep in mind when you look for targets or judge Martials level. Just because he doesn't score as many as we want, doesn't mean he is useless and easily replaced. I see people say they want Vlahović or mitrovic or Osimhen or Felix or lautaro or toney etc. They all have very different qualities, and all would change how we play and impact Bruno and Rashford in different ways. Martial compliments them, and I'd lean for someone who can compliment them going forward. Obviously someone like Kane is the best of both worlds, but Osimhen is obviously class, but i have no doubt that he would clash with Rashford in terms of the role he likes taking up. While Kane would get the best of Rashford.

Martial is decent, not the level to settle for, but at the same time will be very hard and expensive to replace properly. Getting someone who just scores more isn't necessarily improving us as a team.

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

 

[bosnian_red]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

Felix has never played the lone role up top. He comes with a shit ton of risks of just not being a player who can play up top for Ten Hag, and being instead one of the 3 behind. Huge talent, but a lot like Martial as well pretty much, just younger so he hasn't reached Martial's current point. Expensive young player who failed to live up to expectations and some early promise, and who has failed to nail down a position. Felix has never had a season as good as Martials best, for example. Mitrovic has had a decent season this year, good for him. He's a target man but let's not pretend like he's good enough for the top though, you're joking if you think otherwise. I could see him being useful for us, but he has far too many examples of not being good at all to be comfortable with half a season of good form. Lautaro? Nah. The guy is very mediocre. Martial has far superior technique, ability on the ball, build up/hold up/link up play than Lautaro Martinez. He would be an expensive player who wouldn't change anything for us.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

What makes him that?

Lautaro seems so average every time I see him. He was rubbish again at the WC.

 

[Raven]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

None of those 3 are better than Martial. Felix has the potential but has yet to show it.

 

[Red the Bear]

Martial pissed his potentially away but let's not forget, he won the golden boy the year we got him.

 

[vangagal]

Martial pissed his potentially away but let's not forget, he won the golden boy the year we got him.

Anderson won the golden boy award too when we had him. Pissed away his potential too like this one. Means nothing if he not work hard to get where he could be.
Right now, we need an upgrade for him.

 

[Real Name]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

What generation is that. I swear he's been a ganarational talent for 2, 3 years now.

 

[Red the Bear]

Anderson won the golden boy award too when we had him. Pissed away his potential too like this one. Means nothing if he not work hard to get where he could be.
Right now, we need an upgrade for him.

Agreed.

 

[Idxomer]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

 

[Duafc]

None of those 3 are better than Martial. Felix has the potential but has yet to show it.

Felix and Mitro are different debates and I do not think felix is a generational TALENT, though i'd say if you asked all PL and Spanish league fans who they'd rather have they'd overwhelmingly choose martial last, Mitro second and Felix first.

On Lautaro, he's demonstrably better in basically every way. He's 2 years younger, has won more, has outscored martial in goals and assists every year for the last 3 or 4 seasons, is fitter and less injury prone and plays for and has won with his national team.

 

[Highfather_24]

On Lautaro, he's demonstrably better in basically every way. He's 2 years younger, has won more, has outscored martial in goals and assists every year for the last 3 or 4 seasons, is fitter and less injury prone and plays for and has won with his national team.

All he showed in the world cup was that he couldnt deliver under high pressure.

 

[phelans shorts]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

Saying Martial is mid table and throwing the names of Lautaro and Mitrovic as being above his level is legitimately hilarious.

If Martial could stay fit he’d be chosen over both of those by everybody.

 

[Keanes Magic Hat]

Saying Martial is mid table and throwing the names of Lautaro and Mitrovic as being above his level is legitimately hilarious.

If Martial could stay fit he’d be chosen over both of those by everybody.

Agreed, player choice is always subjective but I'd have Martial over both of those any day of the week.

 

[phelans shorts]

Agreed, player choice is always subjective but I'd have Martial over both of those any day of the week.

I’d specify a fit Martial. As things stand he would probably just about come third because you can’t rely on him. Mitrovic first because whilst fairly limited you know exactly what you’re going to get, Lautaro is just crap at this level but isn’t injury prone which is probably his biggest positive.

 

[Duafc]

All he showed in the world cup was that he couldnt deliver under high pressure.

Yeah he was not great - he was there though... The point is not how great he is, just that by most metrics and I think for most objective onlookers he's done more/been better than Martial.

 

[kouroux]

All he showed in the world cup was that he couldnt deliver under high pressure.

The world cup isn't necessarily the be-all and end-all of football. He had a bad ankle too tbh. What he's showed for Inter, for a longer period of time gives a better idea of the player he is. A player performing well/bad at the World Cup doesn't give guarantees about his club performances

 

[tom8888sa]

None of those 3 are better than Martial. Felix has the potential but has yet to show it.

You can't be serious? Martial isn't remotely close to any one of the 3.. I'm sorry is there some agenda going on here? The Fulham guy scored more goals in 4 months than Martial did in THREE YEARS! 28 year old Martial is better than early 20's Joan Felix? There is not one team in Europe that will pick Martial over Felix. I'm sorry if you think Anthony Martial is more valuable than Joao Felix there is some agenda here that I won't go deep dive into. Martinez is also better than Martial. This is insanity here to think Martial comes close to Martinez. Anthony Martial scored 12 goals over 3 years vs Latauro's 60+ goals over 3 years. Fernando Torres the Chelsea 'flop' scored more goals over a 3 year stretch than Anthony Martial.

Any manager that will pick Martial over Joao Felix will get immediately sacked. Regardless of team formations

You go to Pep and say 'free transfer' Anthony Martial or Joao Felix for the next 5 years and Pep gonna be like 'I'll take Martial' ??

 

[croadyman]

Bring Depay in to cover him for when the next injury breakdown inevitably happens

 

[lex talionis]

The way I think about Martial is that he has incredible natural talent, but — and this is no small deficiency — he lacks purposeful intent.

We saw a few glimpses of greatness in the summer, and we’ve even seen a few minutes of sweet moves during the season, but he looks disillusioned and disinterested now.

 

[tom8888sa]

Agreed, player choice is always subjective but I'd have Martial over both of those any day of the week.

You will pick an 8 goal in 3 years Martial, over a 60 goals in 3 years Martinez. Wow.

 

[Pickle85]

The Martial overrating is hilarious. Some never learn...

 

[roonster09]

You will pick an 8 goal in 3 years Martial, over a 60 goals in 3 years Martinez. Wow.

2 lies in one sentence, wow.

 

[angak]

The Martial overrating is hilarious. Some never learn...

When fit & healthy he is our most talented player.

 

[EtH]

When fit & healthy he is our most talented player.

Thank feck this isn’t true.

 

[Raven]

You can't be serious? Martial isn't remotely close to any one of the 3.. I'm sorry is there some agenda going on here? The Fulham guy scored more goals in 4 months than Martial did in THREE YEARS! 28 year old Martial is better than early 20's Joan Felix? There is not one team in Europe that will pick Martial over Felix. I'm sorry if you think Anthony Martial is more valuable than Joao Felix there is some agenda here that I won't go deep dive into. Martinez is also better than Martial. This is insanity here to think Martial comes close to Martinez. Anthony Martial scored 12 goals over 3 years vs Latauro's 60+ goals over 3 years. Fernando Torres the Chelsea 'flop' scored more goals over a 3 year stretch than Anthony Martial.

Any manager that will pick Martial over Joao Felix will get immediately sacked. Regardless of team formations

You go to Pep and say 'free transfer' Anthony Martial or Joao Felix for the next 5 years and Pep gonna be like 'I'll take Martial' ??

Why don't you cry more?

 

[AdNani]

You can't be serious? Martial isn't remotely close to any one of the 3.. I'm sorry is there some agenda going on here? The Fulham guy scored more goals in 4 months than Martial did in THREE YEARS! 28 year old Martial is better than early 20's Joan Felix? There is not one team in Europe that will pick Martial over Felix. I'm sorry if you think Anthony Martial is more valuable than Joao Felix there is some agenda here that I won't go deep dive into. Martinez is also better than Martial. This is insanity here to think Martial comes close to Martinez. Anthony Martial scored 12 goals over 3 years vs Latauro's 60+ goals over 3 years. Fernando Torres the Chelsea 'flop' scored more goals over a 3 year stretch than Anthony Martial.

Any manager that will pick Martial over Joao Felix will get immediately sacked. Regardless of team formations

You go to Pep and say 'free transfer' Anthony Martial or Joao Felix for the next 5 years and Pep gonna be like 'I'll take Martial' ??

What exactly has Felix done to warrant this? he's achieved absolutely feck all, went for a monster price, and massively underwhelmed, For both club and country.

 

[bosnian_red]

You go to Pep and say 'free transfer' Anthony Martial or Joao Felix for the next 5 years and Pep gonna be like 'I'll take Martial' ??

Well that's the problem isn't it? It isn't free transfer vs free transfer. It's - we own one, the other will cost us 100m. So is Felix who has never played as a lone striker, worth 100m to us over what Martial offers? It's hard to say. He is a positionless player currently, who hasnt lived up to expectations, the same as Martial a few years ago. Comparing them at similar ages and Martial did more than Felix did. Would you pay 100m for martial 3-4 years ago?

Striker is arguably the most important position. You don't throw massive money on players who won't improve what you have by much. You want to get it right. Felix has never played striker. Yet you want to spend 100m to use him there in the Prem, and if not, be another expensive LW? So you need to find the type of player who fits and make sure they are good enough for a 80m+ spend, because that's what every team demands.

 

[Ish]

What exactly has Felix done to warrant this? he's achieved absolutely feck all, went for a monster price, and massively underwhelmed, For both club and country.

Yep, i still don't understand the Felix hype. He's talented, has potential and has shown it all in glimpses but never consistently enough to warrant how some rate him. Whether that is due to him or Simeone, is irrelevant IMO.

 

[poleglass red]

Yep, i still don't understand the Felix hype. He's talented, has potential and has shown it all in glimpses but never consistently enough to warrant how some rate him. Whether that is due to him or Simeone, is irrelevant IMO.

I actually didn't realise he's still only 23, I was surprised when I read that, for some reason I thought he was older. At this stage he's unfilled potential. He could be a success under the right manager, an attacking player would find it harder under Simeone I'd guess. To put it perspective, he's 2 yrs younger than Rashford, whose been a revelation of late and 1 yr older than Sancho whom we are having issues unleashing his potential.

 

[elmo]

I actually didn't realise he's still only 23, I was surprised when I read that, for some reason I thought he was older. At this stage he's unfilled potential. He could be a success under the right manager, an attacking player would find it harder under Simeone I'd guess. To put it perspective, he's 2 yrs younger than Rashford, whose been a revelation of late and 1 yr older than Sancho whom we are having issues unleashing his potential.

To put things in perspective, Sancho and Rashford has also shown better performances in multiple seasons before they turned 23 than whatever Felix has shown in his career so far.

 

[elmo]

You can't be seriously thinking Martial is anywhere near that of Mitrovic or Felix or Latuaro? Felix is a GENERATIONAL talent 3 tiers above Martial.. Laturo and Mitrovic will be perfect playing in this United set up (especially if United can get someone like a Kane to compliment) Martial is a mid table striker man.....

What has Felix done to be warranted as a generational talent.

Martial has shown more than whatever Felix has done so far in his career despite his underwhelming career with us. That’s how overrated Felix is.