I doubt he would get this far and renew in the last minute.
He'd be getting mouth-watering signing bonuses from the most elite clubs in a few months.
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He'd be getting mouth-watering signing bonuses from the most elite clubs in a few months.
It's not only money but playing time and future options as well.
Dortmund has been able to attract top talents because of his "trampoline" proposal. As good as Moukoko is right now for his age bracket he wouldn't start for most top clubs at this moment. He will surely pounder that as well.
Didn't happen. Lots of people expected it to happen after he turned 18, but so far they didn't agree on a new deal and he is considering his options
I saw a tabloid article a few days ago saying to sign for a PL club he’d want a lowish release clause and really big wages so he can stay appealing to the big two in Spain if he kicks on. I don’t know if there’s any truth in that…
As per some posts above, given the various stories about him, the seeming prevalence of Cameroonian age cheating, and his general rate of development, I reckon any sensible club should be evaluating him on the basis that he could actually be something like 21-24 before considering his potential and whether he's worth signing.
Isn't that almost the same amount we saved by sacking Ronaldo?
Weee, its Haaland all over again
Our shot at Haaland was when he was at Molde but we had a manager who didn't like signing young players so that's it
The club didn’t follow up on Oles recommendation to sign him
Your point? We’ve identified our January striker option it seems
What you talking about here?
We didn’t sign Haaland due to the ridiculous agent and father fees along with the insistence of a release clause.
Let me guess, Chelsea have signed him.
You are probably not aware of it, but Solskjær wanted United to buy Haaland when at Molde, but was refused by. The club. Then again when at Salzburg, but Haaland wanted sell-on-clause and guaranteed playing time.
I get what you mean, but Alvarez did get fair amount of games at City:
22/23: (half season)
8 goals 2 assists in 22 games (around 8 starts)
My point is that it would be a shrewd way of reallocating those funds.
It seems we have made our choice and it’s WW
Fair enough, just seems like Moukoko would be the better signing from where I'm sat.
I didn't realise he'd played quite so much, but it is still less than 1000 minutes (less than 11 full games), a lot of which were in the cups. I think Moukoko could come in the summer and be our Alevarez, learning from someone like Kane and playing regularly in the cups and 20 minute cameos in the league. Weghorst would be a great third option. I'm not convinced Martial is good enough to ever be our first choice striker, and he is probably too good / wouldn't want to sit on the bench. His injury record also make him an unreliable squad option.
Perhaps it’s seen that WW pressing and link-up would be more beneficial because we lose that when Martial is out.at least in the short term. Who knows what the summer will bring
Possibly so, I quite like the Weghorst signing, provided it comes off, just think getting in a talent like Moukoko at the price quoted would be far better business.
I imagine he wants to join somewhere on a free and keep that 20m himself.
We can't know that if we don't try.
Wouldn't rule it out but I think one of us or Arsenal need to show an interest in him first before they make their move.
United board: ".. who?"
Chelsea board: Yeah bid for him too, whatever
Boehly is channelling his inner Football Manager 2023. A transfer strategy devoid of strategy.
Ole was the reason we actually had a chance to sign him from Molde !
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€30m signing on fee, and he'd still rather stay in Dortmund than move to Newcastle!!!
I’d love to have Moukoko, but it was never happening this month let’s be honest. And even in the summer we should be aiming higher for the immediate term if we want to continue pushing to improve. Moukoko would likely challenge Martial for a starting spot and rotate, but he’s not quite ready to be leading the line for a top top club week in week out just yet. We should be looking for a top striker if one presents themselves and finances allow, if not then a Moukoko signing in the summer would be our best option,
Kane/Osimhen whoever is available
Moved the conversation here, hope it’s OK!
Good point, forgot Reyna, I also checked some German sites. The general comment from fans was like, ‘Loan Elanga? This makes NO SENSE’.
I am just speculating, but honestly, this seem to be one of those rumors that seems to have some substance — but only makes sense if it were more to it than what is reported.
Dortmund have made a take it or leave it offer for Moukokou. Haller is back for them. Recon Modeste more or less is done. If Moukokou signs with a PL team any day now, they will loose an asset for free.
Will they even want to play Moukokou if he is leaving in June? He hasn’t been a huge contributor for them, his mind would be elsewhere, would definitely be some feelings of “betrayal”. If say Garnacho signed for Real — we wouldn’t be that keen on playing him, right?
Just hypothetically — if I were Dortmund I would swap Moukokou for Elanga if it looked like Moukokou was about to be lost for nothing. Elanga can play as a striker or at the wing. Could definitely hit it off in the Bundesliga. He is still really young and a big talent. Normally you have to pay 20-25m for a kid like Elanga, that is a lot of money for Dortmund. But I would have little interest in bringing Elanga on loan if Moukokou resigned there.
Thanks. I guess this thread works if we focus on Moukoko.
On that note, Dortmund exploring the Elanga option makes sense. Whilst there was some encouragement from Moukoko's camp to sign a new deal, he's yet to fully commit. If he rejects this latest offer, then it's highly likely that Moukoko will leave, in which case Elanga will be a viable option for them. A swap might work out if Dortmund get desperate, but they might also prefer cash on top of Elanga. It all depends on how much interest there is for the player. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea come back in for Moukoko as they were highly interested a few months back, and they are seemingly keen on looking outside their club's academy for new players/depth. Other clubs might also start to ramp up their interest in Moukoko if he rejects Dortmund's latest offer.
I think this is a major concern. Even Dortmund’s u23 coach is quoted as saying he’s older than claimed, and some sources claim he is 22, not 18. This matters because once you take away all the plaudits for being the youngest player to do xyz in the BL, you are left with a 20-22 year old with fairly average stats. So much of his value is based on accomplishing what he has at just 18. Hence the potential being enormous. If he’s actually accomplishing those feats at 22, it becomes much much less impressive.
Hey, the Caf had this first!
Seriously though, love the United Stand, and interesting to hear their take on this. Ultimately, I would say that 'there are something there'. The odds for something actually happening is probably at most like 1/20, but...
Mark has a feeling... nothing exclusive there.
Hey, the Caf had this first!
Seriously though, love the United Stand, and interesting to hear their take on this. Ultimately, I would say that 'there are something there'. The odds for something actually happening is probably at most like 1/20, but...
Stating the obvious, says United should go for either now or in the summer.
What does he say.
Hey, the Caf had this first!
Seriously though, love the United Stand, and interesting to hear their take on this. Ultimately, I would say that 'there are something there'. The odds for something actually happening is probably at most like 1/20, but...
Also I don’t think we should touch him if he’s really 22. Changes everything.
If he really is 22 then we shouldn't go near him but if he was 30 ? why not.
What is going on between United and Dortmund?
Dortmund are favourites to sign Elanga on loan (why does a loan deal make sense for either party, surely h best for all if it is a permanent deal?)
Reus' agent was just at Old Trafford, but it doesn't really seem like a typical ETH transfer considering he is 33???
Moukoko rumours???
Moukoko for Elanga swap would be great, not sure what to make of the Reus story though...
Dortmund are favourites to sign Elanga on loan (why does a loan deal make sense for either party, surely h best for all if it is a permanent deal?)
Reus' agent was just at Old Trafford, but it doesn't really seem like a typical ETH transfer considering he is 33???
Moukoko rumours???
Moukoko for Elanga swap would be great, not sure what to make of the Reus story though...
I think Reus makes great business sense for squad depth. Imagine rotating him with Guarnacho and Antony.