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Conor

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United board to Casemiro -

“I know now what I can offer you that no one else can: complete and utter dependence!”

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More passion merchant trite.

De Jong is a good footballer. United needs good footballers.
Above all else, we need people that want to play for Utd, you're posting in a thread for a player that is a shining example of this.
 

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More passion merchant trite.

De Jong is a good footballer. United needs good footballers.
Yeah, but you can have your cake and eat it too. You need good footballers who want to play for United, which usually means their intentions for joining are for football reasons. I am not saying about De Jong because who knows, but plenty of good footballers have been and gone over the last 10 years, leaving as failures because they were with United for the wrong reasons. Just being a good footballer is not enough in many cases.
 

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Above all else, we need people that want to play for Utd, you're posting in a thread for a player that is a shining example of this.
Above all else United needs quality players. Players rarely move if they don’t want to, De Jong is a shining example of this. If he ends up here it’s because he wanted to be here.

Also, the notion that successful teams are only filled with these pashun bandits is ridiculous. Football is a profession.
 

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More passion merchant trite.

De Jong is a good footballer. United needs good footballers.
Di Maria was a good footballer, was shite though cause he didn’t wanna be anywhere near Manchester. You not learned anything from the last decade of us signing players coming here for the money?

And what’s wrong with passion merchants anyways? A world class player who wants to restore us to our former glory is miles fecking better than a good player who doesn’t wanna be here.
 

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Di Maria was a good footballer, was shite though cause he didn’t wanna be anywhere near Manchester. You not learned anything from the last decade of us signing players coming here for the money?

And what’s wrong with passion merchants anyways? A world class player who wants to restore us to our former glory is miles fecking better than a good player who doesn’t wanna be here.
You keep talking about Di Maria like it’s an all encompassing yu-gi-oh gotcha trap card.

United has had plenty of successful signings - as have plenty of United rivals - o you think they all moved and were successful because “passion”? So dumb. Football is a profession. Monetary motivation has always been a - if not the - factor for players moving. Plenty have succeeded because, guess what? People can do their jobs without needing to be zealots

“b-b-but Di Maria

De Jong won’t end up at United unless he wants to. So if he does come, I expect him to do his job. I don’t need him to be dropping quotes about admiring Scholes for me to want the transfer.

Yeah, but you can have your cake and eat it too. You need good footballers who want to play for United, which usually means their intentions for joining are for football reasons. I am not saying about De Jong because who knows, but plenty of good footballers have been and gone over the last 10 years, leaving as failures because they were with United for the wrong reasons. Just being a good footballer is not enough in many cases.
Good players have come and left as failures because United has been a badly run club. Signing players with no idea of how to use them, comical managerial appointments with no easily verifiable nor consistent way of setting up a team, poor training and recovering infrastructure etc and a bunch of stuff that supersedes “being here for the wrong reasons”. What the feck does that even mean?

You think the lot at City went there and are successful because they were passionate about Richard Dunne or trying mince pies in the North West of England?
 

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You keep talking about Di Maria like it’s an all encompassing yu-gi-oh gotcha trap card.

United has had plenty of successful signings - as have plenty of United rivals - o you think they all moved and were successful because “passion”? So dumb. Football is a profession. Monetary motivation has always been a - if not the - factor for players moving. Plenty have succeeded because, guess what? People can do their jobs without needing to be zealots

“b-b-but Di Maria

De Jong won’t end up at United unless he wants to. So if he does come, I expect him to do his job. I don’t need him to be dropping quotes about admiring Scholes for me to want the transfer.



Good players have come and left as failures because United has been a badly run club. Signing players with no idea of how to use them, comical managerial appointments with no easily verifiable nor consistent way of setting up a team, poor training and recovering infrastructure etc and a bunch of stuff that supersedes “being here for the wrong reasons”. What the feck does that even mean?

You think the lot at City went there and are successful because they were passionate about Richard Dunne or trying mince pies in the North West of England?
Im not gonna respond to you if you’re in the game of labelling any counter opinion “dumb”. Just comes across as arrogant and shows you’re not in the frame of mind to cater to a debate.

Casemiro is class and his motivation for improving us whilst being brilliant is the optimum combination to return us to the top.
 
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The beautiful thing about this story is how perfect a move it’s currently turning out for the player. It’s crystal clear now that despite gaining high praise in his career, he’s been simultaneously underrated by the majority. If this spell continues, he’s gonna cement his individual legacy far more than he would have done by staying at Madrid.
 

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The beautiful thing about this story is how perfect a move it’s currently turning out for the player. It’s crystal clear now that despite gaining high praise in his career, he’s been simultaneously underrated by the majority. If this spell continues, he’s gonna cement his individual legacy far more than he would have done by staying at Madrid.
It’s a good point
 

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You keep talking about Di Maria like it’s an all encompassing yu-gi-oh gotcha trap card.

United has had plenty of successful signings - as have plenty of United rivals - o you think they all moved and were successful because “passion”? So dumb. Football is a profession. Monetary motivation has always been a - if not the - factor for players moving. Plenty have succeeded because, guess what? People can do their jobs without needing to be zealots

“b-b-but Di Maria

De Jong won’t end up at United unless he wants to. So if he does come, I expect him to do his job. I don’t need him to be dropping quotes about admiring Scholes for me to want the transfer.



Good players have come and left as failures because United has been a badly run club. Signing players with no idea of how to use them, comical managerial appointments with no easily verifiable nor consistent way of setting up a team, poor training and recovering infrastructure etc and a bunch of stuff that supersedes “being here for the wrong reasons”. What the feck does that even mean?

You think the lot at City went there and are successful because they were passionate about Richard Dunne or trying mince pies in the North West of England?
Yes. Nobody has to actually want to be here. They just need to play as if they do.

Although, it’s probably true that “playing like you want to be here” is much easier if you actually do want to be here.
 

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He is world class though. He’s one of the best central midfielders in the world.
Souness is full of shit. He says that Casemiro isn't world class because that kind of player would get into every team in the world. Well if memory serves, Casemiro was a starter on a 5-time-CL-winning Real Madrid team. So unless Souness is claiming that Casemiro isn't the player he once was (which would pretty much contradict the rest of his article in which he basically says Casemiro has been better than he expected), he's clearly just engaging in some kind of bizarre, face-saving exercise.

I have no idea what Real's reasons were for selling Casemiro - maybe it was much the same as Liverpool's reasons for selling Mane (who I'm sure Souness would label world class,) but I thank god every day that they chose to do so.
 

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Curious player. Casmeiro’s not an specialist ballwinner like makele or Kante. Nor is he a deep lying play-maker like Pirlo or Jorginho. And he is definitely not an advanced, creative midfielder like Modric, Kdb.
He really seems to be a throwback to the olden days of a complete midfielder who is expected to do everything- defending, tackling, ball carrying, sliding through balls, playing long passes, etc. Seems like Keane or Paddy Vieira
 

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Curious player. Casmeiro’s not an specialist ballwinner like makele or Kante. Nor is he a deep lying play-maker like Pirlo or Jorginho. And he is definitely not an advanced, creative midfielder like Modric, Kdb.
He really seems to be a throwback to the olden days of a complete midfielder who is expected to do everything- defending, tackling, ball carrying, sliding through balls, playing long passes, etc. Seems like Keane or Paddy Vieira
For us he's having to do the work of two midfielders because our other midfielders are poor defensively and positionally, but at Real he was pretty much a specialist ball winner which enabled Modric and Kroos to create all over the pitch.
 

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Souness is full of shit. He says that Casemiro isn't world class because that kind of player would get into every team in the world. Well if memory serves, Casemiro was a starter on a 5-time-CL-winning Real Madrid team. So unless Souness is claiming that Casemiro isn't the player he once was (which would pretty much contradict the rest of his article in which he basically says Casemiro has been better than he expected), he's clearly just engaging in some kind of bizarre, face-saving exercise.

I have no idea what Real's reasons were for selling Casemiro - maybe it was much the same as Liverpool's reasons for selling Mane (who I'm sure Souness would label world class,) but I thank god every day that they chose to do so.
Real had a quite old midfield three and Casemiro apparently liked a new challenge. It made sense to use that opportunity to rejuvenate their midfield.
 

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You just knew he’d double down on that shite opinion and look an even bigger wanker.
Slight improvement on steady eddie,however just come out with this criticism in days before league game at Anfield.Believe me Souness you do not want to put the fire into this guy.
 
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For us he's having to do the work of two midfielders because our other midfielders are poor defensively and positionally, but at Real he was pretty much a specialist ball winner which enabled Modric and Kroos to create all over the pitch.
New owners permitting he will get a top class number 8 to partner him in the summer
 

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Curious player. Casmeiro’s not an specialist ballwinner like makele or Kante. Nor is he a deep lying play-maker like Pirlo or Jorginho. And he is definitely not an advanced, creative midfielder like Modric, Kdb.
He really seems to be a throwback to the olden days of a complete midfielder who is expected to do everything- defending, tackling, ball carrying, sliding through balls, playing long passes, etc. Seems like Keane or Paddy Vieira
Casemiro is a great ballwinner
he averages 3.1 tackles per game and 1.8 interceptions per game in his career, totalling 4.9
the defending specialist Kante averages 3.0 tackles per game and 2.3 interceptions per game in his career, totalling 5.3, just slightly higher than Casemiro

to the contrary the so called "good at defending" McTominay averages 1.5 tackles aand 1.0 interceptions per game, totally 2.5, almost half of Casemiro's stats
 

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Real had a quite old midfield three and Casemiro apparently liked a new challenge. It made sense to use that opportunity to rejuvenate their midfield.
Maybe but it doesn’t lessen Casemiro’s world class status, in my opinion
 

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Real had a quite old midfield three and Casemiro apparently liked a new challenge. It made sense to use that opportunity to rejuvenate their midfield.
They wanted to keep him, could’ve easily use him alongside Tchouameini/Camavinga as Kroos/Modric wind down. He was adamant to leave to experience the PL while still in his peak.
 

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They wanted to keep him, could’ve easily use him alongside Tchouameini/Camavinga as Kroos/Modric wind down. He was adamant to leave to experience the PL while still in his peak.
Hard not to have man crush on the guy because is absolutely loving life at Utd
 

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I can imagine Casemiro walking into Carrington like Gordon Ramsey walking into a restaurant on Kitchen Nightmares :D
 

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Normally, Souness can speak from a position of authority by being better than the player he’s digging out, but he may well have bitten off more than he can chew here because Casemiro has claim to being better than Souness himself, and if not so, comfortably in the bracket for that discussion to be had.

This one could be his undoing if fans decide to point that out to him or get under his skin with it. For once, he’s talking about a more decorated player, too, so he really should be avoiding this one.
 
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