Club Sale | It’s done!

[Bulldog United]

Why would you choose to invest in the crime capital of England when you can buy the biggest club in the world located in the UK’s capital of culture?

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I think we can look at it from the perspective that the Raine Group will instruct the club to take measures that directly might help them find a buyer as well as indirect measures that will help them find a buyer. Raising awareness of the brand, creating goodwill etc, would all be of the 'indirect' kind. The idea is of course not that a buyer should walk by and buy the club. Signing lucrative sponsor deals will help them find a buyer. To an extent, all is connected.

I don't agree. I think it'll do the opposite and put off potential owners in a big way.

The buyers who'll be buying United are going to have different interests than just football.

As an example I think a Dubai ownership means that they'd want "visit Dubai" or something on the shirts from next season, Ratcliffe might want "ineos" - same if Amazon or such make an offer, they'll want their branding on there.

United already have a lucrative sponsorship deal with TeamViewer that can last for years longer if they want it to. Signing and committing to a new multi-year shirt sponsorship before they've found a buyer would be a ridiculous business decision. Part of their "buy us" strategy to new buyers will be that they can have their branding on the shirts from this summer onwards.

 

[Messier1994]

I don't agree. I think it'll do the opposite and put off sponsors in a big way.

The buyers who'll be buying United are going to have different interests than just football.

As an example I think a Dubai ownership means that they'd want "visit Dubai" or something on the shirts from next season, Ratcliffe might want "ineos" - same if Amazon or such make an offer, they'll want their branding on there.

United already have a lucrative sponsorship deal with TeamViewer that can last for years longer if they want it to. Signing and committing to a new multi-year shirt sponsorship before they've found a buyer would be a ridiculous business decision. Part of their "buy us" strategy to new buyers will be that they can have their branding on the shirts from this summer onwards.

Good point regarding the shirt sponsor, naming rights for a stadium etc. But we probably have like a 50 different sponsors including all spots at OT etc, right?

 

[cyberman]

I don't see any American investors buying United as the price of the club plus the cost or sorting out Old Trafford makes it a very difficult investment. Especially when competing with the finances of City and Newcastle.

It will have to be a nation state bid. Somebody that can take on City and Newcastle head on.

This didn’t stop Chelsea’s takeover and incredible investment?

 

[TheReligion]

Why would you need to do this if you had lots of prospective buyers? Seems to me like they’re struggling to get interest.

They are greedy and want the best possible offer they can

 

[Mickeza]

Club deny it’s about attracting buyers - which makes sense considering bids are due in 3 weeks! Though I’m not sure who is going to agree to enter into partnership with us if they don’t know who owns us long-term.

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[enghuei]

Club deny it’s about attracting buyers - which makes sense considering bids are due in 3 weeks! Though I’m not sure who is going to agree to enter into partnership with us if they don’t know who owns us long-term.

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Like I said before, getting a space in an event as prominent as Davos needs at least a couple of months of preparation, hence this facility is not done out of desperation to attract buyers as alluded by some posters here.

 

[yumtum]

Club deny it’s about attracting buyers - which makes sense considering bids are due in 3 weeks! Though I’m not sure who is going to agree to enter into partnership with us if they don’t know who owns us long-term.

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Imagine the wives of these billionaires asking their husbands to pick up some milk down the shop, only for them to buy a football club, completely forgetting the milk.

 

[Adebisi's Hat]

freck sake, the hobnobs get that in Davos and i'm stuck walking past the Scouse outlet in the Ilac Centre !!

 

[AaronRedDevil]

Could they not try Craigslist?

 

[Simbo]

Where does this land on the morality landscape?

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Barely registers if we're comparing to our other potential owners tbh.

 

[#07]

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If United really does have preliminary interest and is awaiting bids next month, why are the Glazers twerking for interest at Davos?

 

[TheReligion]

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If United really does have preliminary interest and is awaiting bids next month, why are the Glazers twerking for interest at Davos?

I mean this has been discussed over the past few pages already if you have a look…

 

[Pexbo]

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If United really does have preliminary interest and is awaiting bids next month, why are the Glazers twerking for interest at Davos?

If I was selling a £6-7bn commodity and had four or five suitors, I’d definitely spend a few hundred thousand in the hope of attracting even one or two more.

 

[Mickeza]

If I was selling a £6-7bn commodity and had four or five suitors, I’d definitely spend a few hundred thousand in the hope of attracting even one or two more.

Yup. They’ve done the preliminary work - now it’s the month long auction. I wonder who will go public first.

 

[TrebleChamp99]

That IndyKaila news is being picked up by several media outlets about Liverpool being bought by Qatari investment consortium for 4bln

 

[red thru&thru]

That IndyKaila news is being picked up by several media outlets about Liverpool being bought by Qatari investment consortium for 4bln

I saw it already has been debunked.

 

[Sviken]

I hope it's me being stupid, but I really have a nagging fear that the Glazers might not want to sell now that the club is doing well.

 

[dove]

I hope it's me being stupid, but I really have a nagging fear that the Glazers might not want to sell now that the club is doing well.

No, you can rest assured. Nobody is making those kind of decisions based on a few games.

 

[crossy1686]

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If United really does have preliminary interest and is awaiting bids next month, why are the Glazers twerking for interest at Davos?

Why are people presuming it's the Glazers?

 

[stw2022]

The coverage seems a bit disingenuous unless other representatives there are also asked 'Why are you here unless you want to sell?'

Presumably close to ever major leader in each respect industry are there?

 

[devilish]

We are ending with a US consortium aren't we?

 

[jm99]

We are ending with a US consortium aren't we?

In fairness, if we can get one that will provide the same funds that Boehly has at Chelsea, but leave the decisions over transfers to Ten Hag, then it wouldn't be the worst thing

 

[mu4c_20le]

We are ending with a US consortium aren't we?

The way people have been going on as if Qatar was a done deal, I wouldn't be surprised at all

 

[Von Mistelroum]

A consortium of some kind seems more than likely. I just hope it's one that will spend a little money and not rinse us badly.

 

[JPRouve]

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If United really does have preliminary interest and is awaiting bids next month, why are the Glazers twerking for interest at Davos?

Maybe twerking is their favorite past time? Can't a man have a hobby?

 

[thebelfastboy]

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If United really does have preliminary interest and is awaiting bids next month, why are the Glazers twerking for interest at Davos?

I'd imagine this is nothing more than a corporate sales pitch to sell boxes or platinum VIP ticket packages etc.

Even the idea of setting up sponsorship deals seems far fetched nevermind any link to the sale of the club.

 

[AlPistacho]

Imagine if United win the league. And the glazers decide not sell.

 

[Coops73]

Why are people presuming it's the Glazers?

Nice, I like that angle.

Could be the new prospective owners right? But why?

 

[Zippycup]

Imagine if United win the league. And the glazers decide not sell.

That would be the best time to sell

 

[TrebleChamp99]

I saw it already has been debunked.

Was it? I’ve seen it on many places now.

 

[SouthMancRed]

Imagine the wives of these billionaires asking their husbands to pick up some milk down the shop, only for them to buy a football club, completely forgetting the milk.

Billionaires. Milk. Manchester United. It's quite an easy association unfortunately.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Was it? I’ve seen it on many places now.

You can write it in as many places as you want, but it's all coming from the same source, and the fact non of the respected papers have picked it up makes you think there's not alot in at the moment.

I'd read a while baack that FSG were more inclined to go down the investment route, rather than a full takeover, so the Qatar thing might be a goer I suppose, Liverpool seems a far better fit than us if it's going to be that sort of deal.

My hopes are on Dubai, if not then a Ratcliffe consortium, if it's Americans then I'm worried.

 

[sglowrider]

Club deny it’s about attracting buyers - which makes sense considering bids are due in 3 weeks! Though I’m not sure who is going to agree to enter into partnership with us if they don’t know who owns us long-term.

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Branding purposes. To be associated with the billionaires and the high end brands that are there too.
Clever

 

[Bluelion7]

I think we can look at it from the perspective that the Raine Group will instruct the club to take measures that directly might help them find a buyer as well as indirect measures that will help them find a buyer. Raising awareness of the brand, creating goodwill etc, would all be of the 'indirect' kind. The idea is of course not that a buyer should walk by and buy the club. Signing lucrative sponsor deals will help them find a buyer. To an extent, all is connected.

Something to keep in mind: a “good deal” is a very subjective matter. What someone at United now thinks is a good deal could be paltry, not properly image oriented, or simply a poor relationship to the new buyers.

You want to have them as few entanglements as possible.

One of the things that made Chelsea so easy to sell was that aside from complete debt forgiveness they were wiped clean to the point they barely had toilet paper in the building.

Clearlake probably would have liked to select the shirt sponsor as well if given the choice.

Raine is VERY good at matching up people and n terms of their adequacy to the task of ownership. If the Glazers and the different United groups would just say “get us a ton of money and the best possible owners” …. They would do a good job.

They he only caveat in this is that they work under the criteria given to them. So… if they are told “biggest check wins” … that’s what they’ll do (simplified example).

If the Glazers do the right thing and tell them to heavily consider multiple criteria like dedication to future investment in the club, commitment to the club on competitive levels, erasing current debt and structuring all future debt in a way the doesn’t hamper club business… that would be ideal.

If I were a United fan that would be the campaign I would be waging right now; not that the owners come from certain countries, or that they made their money in soy beans instead of oil.

Demand, for all they’ve taken from you, and all they WILL make from this sale, that the least they owe you is finding super rich buyers dedicated to making United the premiere team on the planet and will settle for nothing less.

 

[crossy1686]

Nice, I like that angle.

Could be the new prospective owners right? But why?

Scoping out hunger for sponsorships or collaborations? It’s a stretch but it could be.

 

[Messier1994]

Supposedly we have the Glazers have been going to Davos for a long time, on this occasion we just took it a step further.

 

[Coops73]

Scoping out hunger for sponsorships or collaborations? It’s a stretch but it could be.

To be honest I’d be worried if the new owners or the Glazers were going down this route, like someone said earlier in the thread this has probably been planned for some time.

 

[I’m loving my life]

The way people have been going on as if Qatar was a done deal, I wouldn't be surprised at all

It was trending on Twitter that Qatar-Liverpool was the done deal.

Looks like we’ll get another bunch of leeches if true-maybe a worse one

 

[Zippycup]

It was trending on Twitter that Qatar-Liverpool was the done deal.

Looks like we’ll get another bunch of leeches if true-maybe a worse one

You don't spend £5-6 billion on a club that also needs £2 billion invested on infistructure, to bleed the club dry. Anyway. There's nothing left to give.