So what, man? This is a United forum. Everyone has a variety of different beliefs and backgrounds. We're not a monolithBut… in that post he admitted he believed in Allah. So he does believe they’ll be punished.
I tried to send a DM to the guy apologising if I’ve been overly harsh. I admire his faith but just don’t agree with how that post was phrased.
Absolutely agree with this. PSG are badly run Madrid Galacticos circus. As bad as the Glazers are, one good thing about their ownership i'd say is that they're relatively hands free. I wish the new owners are like that too. Invest in the outside stuff, but keep the running of the club to the manager.Leaving aside everything else, I'd hope we we wouldn't actually be run like PSG have been with the insane deals for Neymar and Mbappe as well as the stink of player power that constantly hangs over the club.
Hey! Go wash you mouth!We’re in their bad books after we sent their favourite son packing. They’ll probably end up buying Liverpool anyway since most noggies gravitate towards being scouse.
Have you followed the conversation?So what, man? This is a United forum. Everyone has a variety of different beliefs and backgrounds. We're not a monolith
So Amnesty International are part of the western media now?Sadly the western media just spin spin spin and people lap it up.
I wonder how many have actually been to the ME and lived there for a period of time.
No country or regime is perfect. But a lot of people clearly have an agenda.
I think that's more of a case for raising the clubs profile and the leagues profile. No one wants to play in France unless the money is daft and the club were only founded in the 1980's.Leaving aside everything else, I'd hope we we wouldn't actually be run like PSG have been with the insane deals for Neymar and Mbappe as well as the stink of player power that constantly hangs over the club.
As opposed to let's say Leviticus 20:13?But… in that post he admitted he believed in Allah. So he does believe they’ll be punished.
I tried to send a DM to the guy apologising if I’ve been overly harsh. I admire his faith but just don’t agree with how that post was phrased.
Yes. Relatively. You have a problem that his religion is against homosexuals. So fecking what? Is it any news that Islam is against homosexuality and that Muslims are followers of United? I don't get it.Have you followed the conversation?
Because if you have that post makes no sense.
Emir is a well known United enthusiast.The idea that someone can buy the club to be their personal plaything disgusts me.
That’s also wrong.As opposed to let's say Leviticus 20:13?
"If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death."
So fecking what? That’s a pretty big so what.Yes. Relatively. You have a problem that his religion is against homosexuals. So fecking what? Is it any news that Islam is against homosexuality and that Muslims are followers of United? I don't get it.
I’m literally reading what he said. He’s telling you he can separate religious beliefs from his own and be tolerant to those who who don’t share them. There’s not much more we can ask.he doesn’t say that.
he says he is not against individuals but due to his religion believes the nature of it is wrong. He then implies they will be punished in the afterlife.
Nobody feels as connected to their place of work, the manufacturer of their car, or their political party as they do to the football club they support (unless they are complete weirdos). It's a false equivalence which seem to be regularly made in this thread in attempting to justify why United being state backed is completely fine.When Elon Musk bought twitter did that mean every twitter employee and user now represents his values and beliefs?
Will anyone who was previously anti tesla instantly change their view?
If I'm a lib dem voter and the tories are in power, am I responsible for all the awful policies they bring in? Will I become a tory myself?
I'm not arguing for Qatar ownership here I'm highlighting a flawed argument that whoever owns United will represent us as fans. We have zero say in who buys the club. We lost that chance when the club was floated and not enough people joined shareholders United / bought a couple of shares, to get us the collective 10% needed to block any sale.
Is suggesting they’ll be punished in hell and that they’re against homosexuality because of his religion the most we can ask for?I’m literally reading what he said. He’s telling you he can separate religious beliefs from his own and be tolerant to those who who don’t share them. There’s not much more we can ask.
It’s like Ireland. Incredibly catholic but we are one of the most liberal countries on earth, overwhelmingly voting in gay marriage etc.
Anyway I’ll leave it at that. No point in going around in circles
I thinks it's a good thing to be against any and all forms of homophobia.Yes. Relatively. You have a problem that his religion is against homosexuals. So fecking what? Is it any news that Islam is against homosexuality and that Muslims are followers of United? I don't get it.
Now i get it!That’s also wrong.
Can we leave the social issues outside of this board? This is a football forum. Why is everything got to be so political? You don't even know the guy and you're more than likely never going to meet him. Can we just discuss the football club?So fecking what? That’s a pretty big so what.
I didn't argue otherwise, I just don't find any point in trying to argue over something like this with someone you don't even know. I mean, is there a specific set of requirements that a United supporter has to adhere to in order to be eligble?I thinks it's a good thing to be against any and all forms of homophobia.
No way, Mbappe on the right or no deal, he can stay in ParisSo assuming Mbappe will play off the left, will we put Rashford through the middle or shove him out to the right to accommodate Haaland?
My point is, it's hard to win champions league, the times when we walked the league even then we were beaten by teams, also there is lots of luck, injuries refree decisions etc involved that's why I would not hold not winning the champions league against their ownership.That’s a hell of an argument. Pick the guy who won the Champions League twice.
I think it's more to do with most fans being worried about being left behind with the direction football is going in.I wonder how much of this more recent groundswell for Qatari/Middle Eastern ownership is pushed by Arab/Muslim fans who want their club owned by an Arab/Muslim and are more desensitised to the horrors of those nations.
Those two weren't nice either.Now i get it!
You would like for the combined fund managed by mother Teresa and Mahatma Gandhi to buy Manchester United!
Why didn't you say so from the start, we could have skipped all this bickering.
Well if we're owned by Qatar then its inevitable that those sort of topics will obviously come up pretty often. So you should probably brace yourself mateThank feck for the tweets only thread. It really does get quite depressing coming onto a football forum and reading discussions relating to rape, murder, racism, homophobia etc.
It's legal to be gay in Ireland.I’m literally reading what he said. He’s telling you he can separate religious beliefs from his own and be tolerant to those who who don’t share them. There’s not much more we can ask.
It’s like Ireland. Incredibly catholic but we are one of the most liberal countries on earth, overwhelmingly voting in gay marriage etc.
Anyway I’ll leave it at that. No point in going around in circles
Not sure how effective Rashford will be through the middle along side Kane tbh.So assuming Mbappe will play off the left, will we put Rashford through the middle or shove him out to the right to accommodate Haaland?
Nah. You've got it all wrong.So assuming Mbappe will play off the left, will we put Rashford through the middle or shove him out to the right to accommodate Haaland?
I know?It's legal to be gay in Ireland.
You must love a bit a yoga. Just don't stretch any further or you'll do some damage to yourself!
It's a serious point. One of hypocrisy.You must love a bit a yoga. Just don't stretch any further or you'll do some damage to yourself!
This made me laugh, mostly because it's going to trigger someone into a rant any minute now.Nah. You've got it all wrong.
It's the Qataris ffs!
Benzema, Pogba, Salah, Kante, Partey, Ansu Fati, Gueye, Konate, Dembele....
There's also going to be a mosque in the middle of Stretford end.
Obviously not. In a world where a team I love is being owned by a group that according to Amnesty International (and other human rights organisations) treat migrant workers, women and homosexuals badly - then obviously that’s worth of a discussion. We can’t just bury our heads in the sand. This is a massive reckoning for our fanbase and some will feel awful about it happening. It’s not something we can just ignore - it’s massive and has tk be spoken about.Can we leave the social issues outside of this board? This is a football forum.
So qatar is not like ireland, where it is not legal to be gay.I know?
Not a fan of whataboutisms but I thought you were referring to the Tories for a second on that bolded line.Obviously not. In a world where a team I love is being owned by a group that according to Amnesty International (and other human rights organisations) treat migrant workers, women and homosexuals badly - then obviously that’s worth of a discussion. We can’t just bury our heads in the sand. This is a massive reckoning for our fanbase and some will feel awful about it happening. It’s not something we can just ignore - it’s massive and has tk be spoken about.
I mean we have a massive thread about how they’re all dickheads as well.Not a fan of whataboutisms but I thought you were referring to the Tories for a second on that bolded line.
