Not from the target audience I was asking.
ACTUAL POLL thread - how do you feel about potential Qatari ownership?
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Apologies then.
Not according to the poll.
I was there at the home game against Juventus, I watch Cole lob Walker to win the first part of the Treble in '99 from my seat in the North Stand. A seat I gave up in 2005. I will miss Man Utd games, I will always be a Man Utd supporter, but the Man Utd I supported and miss won't exist anymore. I have no desire to watch the club I love turned into a tool for state oppression. I'd rather walk away with those memories what they are than watch the sordid version it will become.
Voted by who? I didn't watch it so it certainly wasn't voted as such by me.
Agreed.
State backed ownership should have never been allowed in, but it’s too late to close that door.
Qatar done a fantastic job with the World Cup.
Totally worth those 1200ish workers lives.
What's the max price you'd accept in the currency of innocent people being put in prison for another PL trophy? 100? 1000? 10000?
Let's say 7 years in prison for being raped by someone other than your husband.
...or life in prison for writing poems about wanting more freedom and calling your dictator ruler a tyrant.
...or life in prison for being openly gay and practice sex.
...or life in prison for wanting to start a political party.
That's 4....
Yes I would give up a lot of trophies for not being owned and controlled by the people personally responsible for this.
You mean apart from the hundreds, potentially thousands of people they killed to make it happen? That's an asterisk the size of the Lusail stadium.
It all seemed very plastic and fake. The host country has nothing to do with how exciting or dull the football ends up being.
I'm not into arguing on the morality of the ownership, sport washing and whatnot. Each have their own take and opinion. I'm a Man Utd fan and walking away from the club that I supported for decades is not an option.
Good read:-
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33019838.amp
I've become apathetic to it. If we turn into City, I'll be out (not that it matters what I do). In pure footballing terms, could be great, especially if we can revamp how awful scouting has been, have an actual footballing structure with footballing people, stadium upgrades, and ETH stays on. I have no idea how hands on this ownership group may be, but if it turns into galaticos that we don't' need just to make a "statement", again, I'm not down for that.
I guess it's possible that club integrity is maintained, but /doubts.
I guess it's possible that club integrity is maintained, but /doubts.
Even ignoring the human rights side of thing, Manchester United will cease to become a purely sporting enterprise and become a political baton wielded by another country to influence proceedings in the UK.
So how come you're fine with Qatar taking over?
Ah sorry I think I did what the other poster already did and misread your post. I'm not.
Wouldn't be a fan of a Qatar or Saudi takeover but that's how the world is currently. 30+ years ago, the concern in the US was all the prime real estate being bought up by Japanese entities. It's a cycle.
I'm sure most fans would prefer the Ineos bid or similar, but I definitely don't want to have to pull levers in the future to get out of a financial hole. As it is, the hole the Glazers dug is bad enough and has handicapped the team for too long.
I'm sure most fans would prefer the Ineos bid or similar, but I definitely don't want to have to pull levers in the future to get out of a financial hole. As it is, the hole the Glazers dug is bad enough and has handicapped the team for too long.
Don’t know enough to say either way
Don't want it to happen but it won't impact my support of the club. The owner is just some rich ass separate to the club for me. The club isn't the Glazers, and it won't be the new owners whoever it is. Can still be protested, but I watch football for the players and the coaches. The rest are more or less irrelevant to that support. The club is essentially an idea that will live on and can't die, no matter which ass owns it in the temporary period. They aren't representing the club on the pitch in front of all the supporters every week.
Just a spot of japery
Unfortunately I think it's a case of if you can't beat them join them. I think we will struggle to win the Premier or the Championship League against the State owned clubs without having the same type of owners.
Yup.
Look at all the Liverpool fans who were like FSG, Edwards amazing, this is how a sustainable football club is run.
We dont need money to compete.
We are the model of how a club should be run
Net 0 transfers - we are amazing
1 season they struggle and they FSG out and want new owners. Its how modern football is going.
I don't like the idea of football clubs becoming the play things of oil states and I've fallen out of love with football as a whole as the money becomes increasingly obscene. I would love for there to be stricter regulations to prevent it.
As a United fan, I just want owners who let us build organically and use our own resources.
As a United fan in the current landscape, that most likely means selling out to an oil state to remain competitive.
But if there was any realistic prospect of forbidding nation states from owning clubs and artificially inflating sponsorships/player wages I'd be fully on board.
As a United fan, I just want owners who let us build organically and use our own resources.
As a United fan in the current landscape, that most likely means selling out to an oil state to remain competitive.
But if there was any realistic prospect of forbidding nation states from owning clubs and artificially inflating sponsorships/player wages I'd be fully on board.
What exactly has been the thick and thin you survived?
My guess would be 50:50. There are lot of us "odd cnuts"
My interest in the top flight has declined significantly over the last decade due to a number of factors. One being the financial doping at clubs like City, PSG etc.
Secondly, my jobs revolved around football, and United in particular. One of those being working for them. That left me both bored of the game and disillusioned with the club. Basically the problems on the pitch are replicated at every level throughout the organisation. It's full of useless, terrible people who have no clue what they are doing, except they are raking in cash for themselves and the club while playing the Billy Big Bollocks. A lads club, filled to the brim with odious characters, and anybody with any ability was poached by the noisy neighbours, and went gladly. Genuinely some of the worst management I've ever come across, and now all the people who I knew there who were genuinely good at what they did have left, mostly within the past year or so. I'm relieved and happy for them that they were able to escape. That's how bad it is.
Thirdly, I'm sick of seeing the world becoming a place where only the super rich and the massive corporations can compete and are rewarded. Football is just one example of that. Old, once successful clubs like Bury (who'd won the FA Cup before either United or City had) go under because they are treated like a plaything by some tosser, and left to drown, while the Premier League and the FA do feck all to help other than speed their demise. There used to be rules to prevent this, but they are long forgotten.
So if United end up as the next trophy club of a royal family to play proxy wars with, I'll doubtless give even less of a shit that I currently do. Sure, I'll hope they beat City, and all the other oligarch/state-owned clubs, but if anyone beats us with their academy products or players signed wisely with money raised fairly by their own efforts, then fair play to them. I'll be at Moston, watching FC labour to a 1-1 draw against Morpeth Town, or similar, as usual.
Secondly, my jobs revolved around football, and United in particular. One of those being working for them. That left me both bored of the game and disillusioned with the club. Basically the problems on the pitch are replicated at every level throughout the organisation. It's full of useless, terrible people who have no clue what they are doing, except they are raking in cash for themselves and the club while playing the Billy Big Bollocks. A lads club, filled to the brim with odious characters, and anybody with any ability was poached by the noisy neighbours, and went gladly. Genuinely some of the worst management I've ever come across, and now all the people who I knew there who were genuinely good at what they did have left, mostly within the past year or so. I'm relieved and happy for them that they were able to escape. That's how bad it is.
Thirdly, I'm sick of seeing the world becoming a place where only the super rich and the massive corporations can compete and are rewarded. Football is just one example of that. Old, once successful clubs like Bury (who'd won the FA Cup before either United or City had) go under because they are treated like a plaything by some tosser, and left to drown, while the Premier League and the FA do feck all to help other than speed their demise. There used to be rules to prevent this, but they are long forgotten.
So if United end up as the next trophy club of a royal family to play proxy wars with, I'll doubtless give even less of a shit that I currently do. Sure, I'll hope they beat City, and all the other oligarch/state-owned clubs, but if anyone beats us with their academy products or players signed wisely with money raised fairly by their own efforts, then fair play to them. I'll be at Moston, watching FC labour to a 1-1 draw against Morpeth Town, or similar, as usual.
Better than the current parasites. As long as they don't turn the cub into a circus i.e Chelsea or PSG. The manager has to be the most important person.
If there was a way of asking this question to the entire Manchester United fan base then I suspect the Qatari’s would win by an absolute landslide.
This is interesting because it suggests that things on the inside were as bad as you would have thought they were based on how bad the outside was
100% spot on. This is how i feel too.
Amen.
My interest in football in general has become progressively more lukewarm over the years and that process would accelerate if United became a PR machine for a megarich oil state with a terrible human rights record.
I'm probably still attached enough not to quit cold turkey but it's hard to imagine mustering too much enthusiasm for this potential new era.
I'm probably still attached enough not to quit cold turkey but it's hard to imagine mustering too much enthusiasm for this potential new era.
Not thrilled, but I certainly don’t want Liverpool being owned by them either. It’s almost a case of better to join the dark side than be beaten by it
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
Will FCUM get a revival of interest?
I dont know how you can have no reservations about the club being owned by murderous scumbags
I hate how football is going but we can complain about it and watch other teams leave us in the dust or just get on the fecking gravy train. The state owned stuff is so blatantly wrong and so is the sports washing.
Bingo.This is interesting because it suggests that things on the inside were as bad as you would have thought they were based on how bad the outside was
Edit: I should say, the biggest benefit to me of new ownership will not be the players we can sign, but someone competent and with vision coming in and sweeping all those useless pricks out of the door.
I’m not happy about it, but the rest of the football pyramid doesn’t seem to give a shit about sportswashing, multi-club ownership, unbalanced financial resources, super teams, property deals, corruption, etc.
So, whatever.
So, whatever.
Funny how everyone seems convinced it’s the cuntaris, can’t wait for the fallout when the dancer, prancer, harris and blitzen consortium rock up at old Trafford
Absolutely.
Why are you like this?