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Him and Sir Alex are the GOATs
For me, yes.Is he better than Pep? Pep would’ve played the occasion tonight at Anfield and probably not won. Ancelotti is the better manager imo.
Yes, it’s a strange one with Carlo. He doesn’t seem to do anything massively transformative, but his presence on its own seems to work a kind of alchemy on teams. He’s like a zen manager. The Tao of football. I love the guy.He's never been a manager that leaves a permanent imprint on the team's he managed. And never was a long term solution. That's the only thing that prevents him from making it to the very top echelons of all time greats.
Surely no one has been as adaptable as him though? He has managed such a broad range of teams and squads and still managed to consistently get the best out of them and win trophies.
Probably the only manager in my lifetime that you could comfortably say he can manage anyone. Safest pair of hands there is for a top club.
NahHim and Sir Alex are the GOATs
Pep would have played his attacking mid’s at FB to try and cheese a result with some weird chaotic approach to thinking. Carlo goes about his business in a quiet and unspectacular fashion, complete with cigar in hand and a raised eye brow.Is he better than Pep? Pep would’ve played the occasion tonight at Anfield and probably not won. Ancelotti is the better manager imo.
You seem to underrate his work at Milan quite a bitHe's never been a manager that leaves a permanent imprint on the team's he managed. And never was a long term solution. That's the only thing that prevents him from making it to the very top echelons of all time greats.
Surely no one has been as adaptable as him though? He has managed such a broad range of teams and squads and still managed to consistently get the best out of them and win trophies.
Probably the only manager in my lifetime that you could comfortably say he can manage anyone. Safest pair of hands there is for a top club.
Nah
Ancelotti is one of the greats of the European Cup / CL. As a manager of football teams - building, rebuilding, transforming , creating something new - he’s nothing special.
It is obviously difficult and a historic feat. But the other good manager handing the same set of players won it three times in three years as a rookie so we have to consider the team, clubs historical pedigree in the competition etc too.A few people here putting him in the second tier. Cannot be correct. He has to be in the first tier just by virtue of having won more European Cups than anyone else and having won European Cups with two different clubs. I don't think people have the slightest conception of how difficult that is if they think he belongs in some second tier.
You can pick holes in his resume for sure but you can do that with any manager, even the great SAF..
There's managers I'd rank ahead of Carlo but not many. He's definitely one of the greatest of all time.
Nah
Ancelotti is one of the greats of the European Cup / CL. As a manager of football teams - building, rebuilding, transforming , creating something new - he’s nothing special.
cos its totally different.Yeah not sure why it doesn't translate in league football.
How about Everton ?He's never been a manager that leaves a permanent imprint on the team's he managed. And never was a long term solution. That's the only thing that prevents him from making it to the very top echelons of all time greats.
Surely no one has been as adaptable as him though? He has managed such a broad range of teams and squads and still managed to consistently get the best out of them and win trophies.
Probably the only manager in my lifetime that you could comfortably say he can manage anyone. Safest pair of hands there is for a top club.
Nah
Ancelotti is one of the greats of the European Cup / CL. As a manager of football teams - building, rebuilding, transforming , creating something new - he’s nothing special.
Yeah not sure why it doesn't translate in league football.
He’s never won back to back league titles I believe. Look, he’s a great manager but he’s also managed all the best clubs in the world - Dominant Bayern, PSG (lol), Madrid always top 2 in Spain, a great Chelsea team usually in the top 2 (Jose implosion aside) and while it’s an achievement to win in many countries he’s not exactly the manager to build teams like Klopp or SAF, or dominate elite leagues like Pep or SAF would with 5/7 or 4/5 titles.
He's won Serie A, the Premier League, Bundesliga and La Liga as a manager.
You can't blame him to be honestHe’s never won back to back league titles I believe.
Few things are permanent in football, but as far as semi-permanent things goes, one could easily argue that he is what started this era of RM doing what they do in Europe over the past 9 years.He's never been a manager that leaves a permanent imprint on the team's he managed. And never was a long term solution. That's the only thing that prevents him from making it to the very top echelons of all time greats.
Surely no one has been as adaptable as him though? He has managed such a broad range of teams and squads and still managed to consistently get the best out of them and win trophies.
Probably the only manager in my lifetime that you could comfortably say he can manage anyone. Safest pair of hands there is for a top club.
Did well to keep them mid-table. They've been in a relegation battle ever since he left. More to do with how they've been run though than anything else.cos its totally different.
How about Everton ?
I think his stint at Milan as a manager is the best example of how he never made his managerial mark on a team or left a legacy. He was there for years but couldn't do it. Still won them a couple of CL titles though because that's what he does.You seem to underrate his work at Milan quite a bit
Yes, it’s a strange one with Carlo. He doesn’t seem to do anything massively transformative, but his presence on its own seems to work a kind of alchemy on teams. He’s like a zen manager. The Tao of football. I love the guy.
No way. He was very underwhelming at Bayern. Not only regarding to silverware (he only won the championship) but his football was often dull.Is he better than Pep? Pep would’ve played the occasion tonight at Anfield and probably not won. Ancelotti is the better manager imo.
You mean the Everton who were in the European spots and basically became relegation scrappers once he left? The one for whom he had Calvert-Lewin looking like a world class striker?cos its totally different.
How about Everton ?
Great call. Completely different characters but both brilliant.Him and Sir Alex are the GOATs
And where is Calvert-Lewin now?You mean the Everton who were in the European spots and basically became relegation scrappers once he left? The one for whom he had Calvert-Lewin looking like a world class striker?
I think so. Pep may have won more, but Ancelotti's journey is more impressive.Is he better than Pep?
Fergie is the GOAT. No weaknesses. End of discussion.Great call. Completely different characters but both brilliant.
To be fair, DCL is permanently crocked, which isn't really a reflection of his ability.And where is Calvert-Lewin now?
For good reason, some managers can only land at the biggest teams in the world.He’s never won back to back league titles I believe. Look, he’s a great manager but he’s also managed all the best clubs in the world - Dominant Bayern, PSG (lol), Madrid always top 2 in Spain, a great Chelsea team usually in the top 2 (Jose implosion aside) and while it’s an achievement to win in many countries he’s not exactly the manager to build teams like Klopp or SAF, or dominate elite leagues like Pep or SAF would with 5/7 or 4/5 titles.
He’s pretty good in the league and amazing in Europe. That’s why I see him as a special manager in cups but week in week out building a football team, he’s not the man you want. For example Klopp / Pep or him post Moyes or SAF is an easy one for me (rival connection aside of course).
SAF has weaknesses of course. His CL record could have been a little betterFergie is the GOAT. No weaknesses. End of discussion.
Ancelotti is the king of kings. Perfectly suited for the big teams and big moments. Cool as cool can be.
Pep is the weird nerd who inexplicably gets laid and does a lot of coke. Micro-managing flat-track bully.