Really? The one guy who hasn't been pro Qatar and you find it laughable?
That's the standard at the moment. If he's worth 2 or 3 then where is it coming from ? Never mind the fact that its not him, but rather son that is allegedly attempting to "buy Man United outright". Where is his son getting the money from, if not from some degree of state backing ?
Whether they buy United of not this will all come to pass. Its where the game has been headed for a long time. Football sold it's soul long ago.The UK Government and the Football authorities simply don't care and show no signs that they ever will. And taking that all into account I can understand why there are plenty of United fans willing to just accept it as inevitable and go along with it.
Welcome to the mains.
When is he quitting his job? or is the Saudi/Russian money too delicious.
He doesn't support his job so all the human rights concerns don't count, or so we were told in this thread. Nothing to see here.
When Ratcliffe spoke about “split loyalties” it was about the Chelsea bid due to him being a United fan.
Debating politely and adjusting your opinion when confronted with new information is surely against the rules in this thread.
Yes, yes Delaney is a hypocrite, everyone that criticises Gulf states are yadda, yadda...
He'll need more than that to buy United as a new toy for one of his 15 children.
Thanks... Only took me about 20 yearsWelcome to the mains.
Curiouser and curiouser
Should''ve posted more often.Thanks... Only took me about 20 years
Every Al Thani is a member of the Royal family, but like I said the family consists of several thousand members so the name alone doesn't say much in Qatar. The Malaga owner is not seen as an important member of the family, more like a business man operating in the private sector and far away from the important Al Thani members.
Delaney wrote an article. A user accused Delaney of being anti Middle East. You engaged with fervor, because it gave you the opportunity to complain about whataboutism and war crimes and oil deals, as you do. Yet, it turns out, you don't know if Delaney is anti Middle East or not.
If Qatar buy us, we are cool with it, then Dubai buys lets say Liverpool and then we complain about that then yes we would be hypocrites. What many are doing though is not the case.
I'm not Delaney's biggest fan even if he does make some good points in that article.
Sportswashing is bad but journalism washing is far worse. People reading the 'Independent' do so thinking that its actually Independent. Instead its owned by an ex KGB/Russian Oligarch whose sanctioned in Canada and a Saudi rich guy who has links with the crown. These are the sort of people that Delaney works for.
I'm definitely not laughing at the fact you got hoodwinkedThats just silly.
Are you saying that Raine Group has been hoodwinked?
I especially enjoy all the comments about how the reason he's scrutinizing Qatar is because he's owned by the Saudis, and therefore wants to attack United on behalf of Newcastle. Nevermind the fact that he has actively opposed the Saudi takeover of Newcastle, reality be damned.
There has been plenty of opposition to these States and their take overs.If only they were crying this much when City and Newcastle were bought too.
If there is one thing I can't stand even more than a totalitarian reign, it's double standard.
That's your opinion and while I disagree with it (United is losing money and the infrastructure needs eye watering investment) I respect it and I respect you. TBF I am not anti Ratcliffe bid myself. Sure I don't believe that Ratcliffe is that savvy football man that can take us to new heights with a lower budget. But he's certainly a better option then the Glazers, Elliott and possibly Pagliuca as well (that option need to be scrutinised first though).
Yet he's working with a newspaper with some really shady owners. The media is far more influential then any football club can be
Does that make what he writes untrue?
What I was actually referring to had nothing to do with Delaney ‘s bosses at the Independent. I didn’t even know they owner the newspaper until I started reading responses to his tweets just now.
God knows. Can you trust a journalist whose willing to take money out of such people?
Makes it suspect. Hard to write a morally charged article when you limit replies so people will stop pointing out how hypocritical you are.
….. far from it, but I wish him well!
Also the paper is owned or part owned by the Saudi's and he has been outspoken about Saudi ownership of Newcastle, also he is a sports writer writing about sport what do you want him to write about in terms of The Independents ownership of his paper last time I checked these people aren't buying a football club unless I am mistaken
Then why did you respond to a comment about Delaney?
I think in terms of being tainted by ownership and the fact he takes a paycheque from the same source throws up some questions? It’s easier to be critical of other peoples morals than to confront your own.
Going by this forum, if he didn’t have the ‘suspect’ newspaper platform there’s a good chance he’d just be accused of xenophobia or racism.
Everyone just needs to be nice to each other and accept it’s going to be Qatar.
I plead the fifth your honour.
You tell yourself that. There will be no difference in the eyes of many, however you spin it - myself potentially included. No club should be backed by a fecking State, or never have to feasibly watch their finances. Even the biggest clubs in the World should have to loan a Wout Weghorst in the winter if they’ve spent too much in the summer. Otherwise what’s the point in sport? Just fodder for teenage tweeters and FIFA shut ins? United have always had the moral high ground in these arguments. We’ve always been a ‘proper club’ …but so many are happy to piss it all away for a sugar daddy. When as you say, we don’t actually even need it!
Why does it have to be pointed out virtually every other page that there is in fact a Tweet thread for updates and news. If these things are not discussed in the takeover thread then where do you suggest issues relating to the people potentially taking over be discussed?
