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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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I wish I could have put it as eloquently as this, but this sums up my feelings exactly, great post.
Yeah this, very well said.
Got to tell you, that sounds god awful.
Family money plus probably some backing from the financial institutions he's connected to - really not that complicated at all
Not so certain at all. It's anyone's game, so to speak.
Hardly the only guy.
The Athletic have been churning out anti ME articles by the week. Laurie whitwell in the lead.
Its no surprise since its an American publication. Same with Delaney who writes for ESPN as well. Quite obvious to see the agendas. Pander to your audience and what not.
Do you think that given the financial/debt problems United has just gone through over the past 18 years of the Glazers, that the fanbase have a right to know whether this is a thinly veiled Qatari state bid ? Nearly all money anyone from the royal family has is originally sourced from the Qatari state - so why not simply admit that it is, deal with the issue transparently so that all parties are aware this is not a private individual, but rather a tacit Qatari state actor attempting to buy United.
The agenda being of course, the viewpoint they’ve maintained for years that a country with thousands of deaths behind its wealth and prohibitive laws for gay people and women is not great?
Why would it matter if its based in the US ? Unless of course one has a problem with free speech and a free press.
Genuine question here. Are there actually people that this bothers? What fans of other clubs/journalists think of United and what we accomplish?
I know a lot of Chelsea fans and none of them have ever been bothered by this.
Then again I've never seen the appeal of claiming the moral high ground like a lot of our fanbase seem so fond of.
It is literally not claiming the moral high ground. It is having the moral high ground. Chelsea’s riches came from a regime that is now murdering thousands and now stealing kids.
Because there is a clear anti-ME agenda coming from American publications? Pretty obvious.
People just like arguing with each other if it’s going to rain or not.
we have no control over this and there’s every chance we could spend less per summer than we did anyway since our squad is in better shape than it has been in a long time.
What do you like about the Middle East laws regarding queer people and women?
It’s Qatar. Nailed on.
Not sure which countries don't have thousands of deaths behind its wealth and prohibitive laws for gay people and women at some point in time?
What has that got to do with the Qatari bidders anyways? Is this Sheikh Jassim guy imparting these rules? Was he responsible for these deaths? Or shall we just lump them all together. Qataris are all one and the same.
Casual racism at its finest.
Not sure which countries don't have thousands of deaths behind its wealth and prohibitive laws for gay people and women at some point in time?
What has that got to do with the Qatari bidders anyways? Is this Sheikh Jassim guy imparting these rules? Was he responsible for these deaths? Or shall we just lump them all together. Qataris are all one and the same.
Casual racism at its finest.
Just awful awful arguments.
Absolutely.
I know a bunch of City fans that much preferred the old club because this new one is simply hollow. My mum’s fella stopped his ST after the first title season and barely gets to a game now, “it’s not the same club” has been uttered many times.
@Mockney as usual absolutely nails it. What’s even the point of sport if United don’t need to loan a Weghorst cause they’ve spunked away too much in the Summer, or if Real don’t let Makelele go cause wages mean nothing here.
No there isn't. These are regular journos asking the tough questions that any responsible journo should be asking. It isn't their fault that Qatar is a corrupt, authoritarian nation where covering them results in negative stories.
Obviously you don't have a counter argument to it.
Just pandering the usual line. Middle East. Bad. Human rights. Bad.
All the same people. Bad.
It's not though, I don't know why people keep repeating this line.
What do you even know about Jassim?
As much as you do.
The narratives emanating out of these opinion pieces are questioning the legitimacy and wisdom of the State of Qatar buying United. This would also be the case if any other nation state led bid was on the table.
Exactly.
Fair enough. Appreciate the feedback. I don't know anyone like this so it's good to hear other views on it. Personally it doesn't bother me.
Which is rather ironic considering their human rights record in the Middle East.
Nothing against people who say “I don’t care that United’s future success will be bankrolled off the deaths of hundreds and thousands of vulnerable people”. I get that you can separate it.
100% can’t get behind people lying to themselves with awful arguments.
Exactly what?
World’s worst kept secret.
State backed financially
Right. What is happening to you here is simple.State backed financially
You have been caught making an argument you don’t even believe. I have literally proven you don’t believe those words.
So as a human being you have two options:
A) continue to lie to yourself and think you’re justified
B) Admit you have completely changed your arguments and moral viewpoints across a two month period to justify the fact your football team has more money.
That is absolutely fine. But fecking OWN it. Don’t make bad faith arguments. Just own the fact you’re excited by a transfer kitty.
It just bothers me the most because there’s only a handful of clubs, that if run well (not Glazer run), they can stick two fingers up to the nonsensical state ownership of football clubs & the bottomless pits of money they provide.
United & Real stand clear as two shining examples of clubs that absolutely can stand above it, one has been run so superbly that whilst the state owned clubs dither about year on year in the CL, they are undergoing huge stadium renovations, are financially in a brilliant position and win the CL almost every year.
The other has been run like shit and fans will therefore give up all the moral high ground of being a proper club that pays for itself, despite years of slating state ownership because they see dollar signs, shiny new stadiums and training centre, but these dollars we barely fecking need if we were just run well as a football club.
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