Has Jose lost his mojo?

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Heard an Italian based journo saying that were he to depart Inter at some point [at the end of this season] they wouldn't be all that upset.

And what do you advise our Portuguese friend to do?
 

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He'll go to Real Madrid - he wants to coach in Spain and he's been linked with them for next season.
 

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I suppose that's only because they've gotten used to winning with both Mancini and Jose in charge and feel it would continue after his departure.
 

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I suppose that's only because they've gotten used to winning with both Mancini and Jose in charge and feel it would continue after his departure.
The impression i get is rather that they just don't like him, his style an how he goes about his business [even the Inter faithful to a carying degree].

A quite different reception to what eh had before in his career. May well be a cultural thing but the result is the same.
 

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He'll go to Real Madrid - he wants to coach in Spain and he's been linked with them for next season.
I don't think Jose will take kindly to the board telling him what side to pick for every game. Madrid always want a puppet for a manager and even some players like Raul have more input in how the club is run. Don't see Mourinho being okay with the constant interference. Plus, his pragmatic style of play is contrary to what Real Madrid is traditionally all about - adventurous attacking display.
 

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I don't think Jose will take kindly to the board telling him what side to pick for every game. Madrid always want a puppet for a manager and even some players like Raul have more input in how the club is run. Don't see Mourinho being okay with the constant interference. Plus, his pragmatic style of play is contrary to what Real Madrid is traditionally all about - adventurous attacking display.
I know what you mean but I'm sure he's said he wants to win La Liga, having won the English and Italian leagues its something he wants on his cv.

The only way he can conceivably do that is either with Madrid or Barca, and I don't see Pep going anywhere any time soon. I mentioned in a thread about FSW that Ballague was prattling on about Madrid having already been in touch with managers and Mourinho was one of the names mentioned.
 

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I know what you mean but I'm sure he's said he wants to win La Liga, having won the English and Italian leagues its something he wants on his cv.

The only way he can conceivably do that is either with Madrid or Barca, and I don't see Pep going anywhere any time soon. I mentioned in a thread about FSW that Ballague was prattling on about Madrid having already been in touch with managers and Mourinho was one of the names mentioned.
If he did and if Capello's experiences are anything to go by, it wouldn't be a...long term relationship shall we say.
 

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Italians changing allegiances, who'd have thought it.
 

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They never realises how good Jose is.

Before Juve was relegated, Inter has won shit all, and been a big time bottler in Serie A

They're starting to take thigns for granted
Errm not quite, they were champions of italy when he over and clearly the best side in Italy. He hasn't really made them any better than they were before.

He will get another good job though, since leaving Porto he has been fortunate in that he has joined clubs with well settled teams and had plenty of money to invest in those teams. At Inter less so but at Chelsea that was definitely the case.
 

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Errm not quite, they were champions of italy when he over and clearly the best side in Italy. He hasn't really made them any better than they were before.

He will get another good job though, since leaving Porto he has been fortunate in that he has joined clubs with well settled teams and had plenty of money to invest in those teams. At Inter less so but at Chelsea that was definitely the case.
Yes, and that year there's no Juve, and Milan was docked points, It's like saying Liverpool won the league with us relegated and Chelsea docked points.
 

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Yes, and that year there's no Juve, and Milan was docked points, It's like saying Liverpool won the league with us relegated and Chelsea docked points.
Mourinho has had pretty much the same situation, he came up against a much weaker Milan and Juve side as well so winning the title there with that team isn't really that amazing.
 

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Mourinho has had pretty much the same situation, he came up against a much weaker Milan and Juve side as well so winning the title there with that team isn't really that amazing.
True, but he maintain it.

Somehow, i am wondering, what does he have to do to be recognised.

He manages to win more trophies than Wenger has ever done mind you, and even against the weaker sides, winning 3 on the trot is not an easy task, Even Fergie hasn't managed 4 in a row being in the top flight, stable condition, great support.

All and all, I'm only trying to say that he is that good.
 

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I don't think the Italian press have warmed to him the way ours did. The first thing he did when he went over there was slag off some pretty established figures, and whilst we might have lapped that up the Italian general public took great offence. We loved his calling Arsene Wenger a voyeur; the Italians were up in arms when he insulted Ranieri in similar circumstances.
 

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Plus, his pragmatic style of play is contrary to what Real Madrid is traditionally all about - adventurous attacking display.
why is this constantly brought up, did you see how chelsea played under him before roman stuck his nose in and signed ballack and shevchenko, especially when duff and robben were both fit
 

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I suspect that he isn't that special after all. He seems to be too self-centered.
 

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Wherever he ends up, his club will win the league
 

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According to our press Josè should have been sacked after his first week in Milan, stupid asslickin' cnuts.

Now they're even claiming that Leonardo is a better manager than him.
 

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They never realises how good Jose is.

Before Juve was relegated, Inter has won shit all, and been a big time bottler in Serie A

They're starting to take thigns for granted
During our league drought, from 1989 to 2006 we won 3 Uefa Cups, 1 Italian Cup and 1 Italian Supercup, not an impressive amount of trophies but surely not shit all. The only time in which we really bottled a serie A win was in the 2001-2002 season (where there have been lots of dodgy refereeing mistakes in favour of Juve) and in the 1990/91, 1992/93, 1997/98 (the year of the infamous Juve-Inter with the Iuliano-Ronaldo challenge) and 2002-2003 we got a final 2nd place behind Sampdoria, Milan and Juve (twice) respectively, in all those seasons we were a good team and would probably have deserved to get the title. So the argument that we've always been shit before the match-fixing scandal is absolutely false. Also everybody should remember that Juve and Milan (alongside Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina) were punished just because of their own faults.

We're not taking things for granted, we just think we're a better team than the likes of Rubin Kazan and Dinamo Kiev. Anyway I don't think Josè is the only responsible for our poor CL campaign so far.
 

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True, but he maintain it.

Somehow, i am wondering, what does he have to do to be recognised.

He manages to win more trophies than Wenger has ever done mind you, and even against the weaker sides, winning 3 on the trot is not an easy task, Even Fergie hasn't managed 4 in a row being in the top flight, stable condition, great support.

All and all, I'm only trying to say that he is that good.
Yes, but you also have a crush on Moureen. :p
 
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He'll go to Real Madrid - he wants to coach in Spain and he's been linked with them for next season.
I agree, and if United are to pursue Mourinho as Ferguson's successor, then it would be a good thing, as he is such an egomaniac that he would have left United for Real Madrid to complete his set of winning titles in the three major nations.

So, the only job he would realistically be leaving United for is the Portugal job.

Which is a good thing, as it would allow more stability imo
 

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True, but he maintain it.

Somehow, i am wondering, what does he have to do to be recognised.

He manages to win more trophies than Wenger has ever done mind you, and even against the weaker sides, winning 3 on the trot is not an easy task, Even Fergie hasn't managed 4 in a row being in the top flight, stable condition, great support.

All and all, I'm only trying to say that he is that good.
He has won more than Wenger but then again look at the teams he has managed. It would of been a monumental feck up if he hadn't won trophies at Chelsea considering the players he had at his disposal and at Inter he had easily the best side while the other so called big boys are going through a big change. His achievements at Porto are far more impressive and even then they fluked their way past your lot and then faced pretty average opponents, I mean Monaco in the final FFS.

I'm not putting him down but some people make him out to be some kind of all time great or something when he has nothing to live up to that kind of tag. Is it coincidence that the season Man utd got their act together they couldn't win the league? Both Arsenal and Man utd both were going through big changes when Chelsea won their titles. Then starting moaning when he wouldn't get more money despite the huge amounts he had already spent.
 

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Man City would be a great challenge for him. And he would be back in England, he loved it there...
 

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He won't go to Liverpool or City, seems obvious to me that he knows Fergie wants him in the near future.
 

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During our league drought, from 1989 to 2006 we won 3 Uefa Cups, 1 Italian Cup and 1 Italian Supercup, not an impressive amount of trophies but surely not shit all. The only time in which we really bottled a serie A win was in the 2001-2002 season (where there have been lots of dodgy refereeing mistakes in favour of Juve) and in the 1990/91, 1992/93, 1997/98 (the year of the infamous Juve-Inter with the Iuliano-Ronaldo challenge) and 2002-2003 we got a final 2nd place behind Sampdoria, Milan and Juve (twice) respectively, in all those seasons we were a good team and would probably have deserved to get the title. So the argument that we've always been shit before the match-fixing scandal is absolutely false. Also everybody should remember that Juve and Milan (alongside Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina) were punished just because of their own faults.

We're not taking things for granted, we just think we're a better team than the likes of Rubin Kazan and Dinamo Kiev. Anyway I don't think Josè is the only responsible for our poor CL campaign so far.
When it's the 90's I used to follow Serie A, and at that time it's the italian teams performing and short of dominating the EC. Yes, off course shit is an understatement to Inter side, but they have never won the leaque in that era. And I believe that is what Moratti wants, so bad.

If I were you i wouldn't be so quick to blame Jose for your CL, because we'll have to face it that Italian sides are not the powerhouse they were once, now it is dominated by English and Spanish team.


He has won more than Wenger but then again look at the teams he has managed. It would of been a monumental feck up if he hadn't won trophies at Chelsea considering the players he had at his disposal and at Inter he had easily the best side while the other so called big boys are going through a big change. His achievements at Porto are far more impressive and even then they fluked their way past your lot and then faced pretty average opponents, I mean Monaco in the final FFS.

I'm not putting him down but some people make him out to be some kind of all time great or something when he has nothing to live up to that kind of tag. Is it coincidence that the season Man utd got their act together they couldn't win the league? Both Arsenal and Man utd both were going through big changes when Chelsea won their titles. Then starting moaning when he wouldn't get more money despite the huge amounts he had already spent.
He's not all time great, he is that special.

Mind you that even when he inherited Ranieri's squad (most of them), he does have his handicapped of not being able to built his own squad, sheva and roman.

Instead of moaning, he works with what he have (yes, they're good), cue some other manager who's wheeling and dealing all the way back to square one.

Mind you, it took SAF 7 years to get it correct, he manage and he win it, first time. I believe that with a good squad + cash, top 3-4 is guaranteed, unless you're no good, but to win consecutively, it's not that simple, and for that alone I think he's special
 

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According to our press Josè should have been sacked after his first week in Milan, stupid asslickin' cnuts.

Now they're even claiming that Leonardo is a better manager than him.
That's because he stepped on the media's toes the moment he arrived. Then he picked a media fight with Ranieri, who was media friendly.