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    Lucky McLuckerson

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    Date - Saturday, December 02 2017
    Kickoff Time - 1730 Hrs GMT
    Venue - The Emirates Stadium, London




    League standings and form guide

    2. Manchester United: WLWWW

    4. Arsenal: WWLWW


    Previous Meetings

    Arsenal 2–0 Manchester United

    Manchester United 1–1 Arsenal

    Manchester United 3–2 Arsenal

    Arsenal 3–0 Manchester United

    Manchester United 1–1 Arsenal


    All-Time League Record

    Manchester United wins - 81
    Arsenal wins - 69
    Draws - 46


    Pre-Match Pressers

    José Mourinho


    Arsène Wenger



    Team News

    Manchester United

    Michael Carrick ruled out. Marouane Fellaini, Phil Jones, Eric Bailly and Nemanja Matić doubtful.

    Arsenal

    Santiago Cazorla ruled out. Alexandre Lacazette, Theo Walcott and Alex Iwobi doubtful.


    Know the opposition



    Arsenal Football Club (also known as The Gunners), are a professional football club based in Holloway, London. In late 1886, a gaggle of workers from the Woolwich Arsenal Armament Factory decided to form a football team. They called themselves Dial Square as a reference to the sundial atop the entrance to the factory. On December 11, 1886, Dial Square romped to a 6-0 victory over Eastern Wanderers; the first game in their initial guise. Shortly afterwards the name ‘Royal Arsenal’ was adopted. Today, Arsenal are one of the most successful and popular clubs in the history of the English league, with a trophy haul than includes 13 League titles, 12 FA Cups, and 2 League Cups.

    When Henry Norris decided that Arsenal needed a new manager in the summer of 1925, he could never have anticipated the impact of his next appointment. After flirting with relegation in the previous season, Chapman set about reinventing the Club with almost immediate effect, and in a broader sense helped move football from the amateur era into a professional one. In his first season at Highbury, the new manager steered the Gunners to an FA Cup Quarter Final and a second-place finish in the First Division; the highest league placing in their history. And unlike many of his contemporaries in Britain, Chapman was a fan of the continental game and counted among his friends Hugo Meisl and Jimmy Hogan, coaches of the Austrian Wunderteam of the 1930s.

    In the mid '90s, they appointed another visionary in Arsène Wenger with former vice-chairman David Dein bringing him to the club in 1996 - Dein actually wanted to appoint him a year earlier before Bruce Rioch but the old school board did not want a foreign manager - and the next 20 years have been a remarkable and unforgettable period in the club’s history - with Arsenal building a reputation for playing an attractive, streamlined style of football that rivals some of the best teams in Europe while winning three league titles and seven FA Cups and boasting the likes of Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp, Patrick Vieira, Robert Pirès, Cesc Fàbregas and Robin Van Persie in their ranks.

    The club plays its home games at the Emirates Stadium, and has a bitter sporting rivalry with neighbors Tottenham Hotspur in a match termed the North London Derby, apart from a competitive rivalry against the other major clubs of the Premier League, especially Manchester United - in an affair that peaked in the late 1990s to early 2000s period.


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    Sandikan

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    No excuse that we're "focusing on the Europa", with a heavily rotated team this year.
    Time for some payback.
     

    charlenefan

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    Team should be...

    ---------------De Gea---------------
    ---Lindelof---Smalling---Rojo---
    Valencia--Matic--Pogba--Young
    ----------Lingard---Martial----------
    ---------------Lukaku---------------

    Subs: Romero, Darmian, Blind, Herrera, Mata, Ibrahimovic, Rashford
     

    Kill 'em all

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    This is a must-win game or we risk both Arsenal and Chelsea reaching us. :(
     

    Loke

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    Welbeck coming back to fitness at the right time :p
     

    charlenefan

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    Dropping points at Arsenal always feels like points dropped (as oppose to away to Liverpool or Chelsea) but I worry about the way they performed against Spurs and that happening to us especially given our recent trips there

    A win would be massive
     

    Bwuk

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    Team should be...

    ---------------De Gea---------------
    ---Lindelof---Smalling---Rojo---
    Valencia--Matic--Pogba--Young
    ----------Lingard---Martial----------
    ---------------Lukaku---------------

    Subs: Romero, Darmian, Blind, Herrera, Mata, Ibrahimovic, Rashford
    Agreed, but would be seriously tempted to bench Lukaku and go with Rashford
     

    fellaini's barber

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    Is Danny Welbeck available for his obligatory United goal where he celebrates like a cnut and doesn't score again till next season?
     

    VorZakone

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    I think Arsenal are on a great home streak at the moment. Time for Utd to end it.
     

    charlenefan

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    I'd play same team as tonight but can see Rashford coming in ahead of Martial.
    Not after his last few cameo's, not sure what he was like against Brighton though
     

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    Lets frustrate the hell out of them, win with some sloppy, ugly goal and drive old Wenger completely mad.
     

    Tincanalley

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    Now we get down to business. Lets smash these caaaaaaannnntttzzz
     

    whatwha

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    Could use some Young belters like the ones in the 8-2 :drool:
     

    SirAF

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    God, I hate arsenal so much... Would give so much for a win here!
     

    el3mel

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    David
    Lindelof - Smalling - Bailly
    Valencia - Matic - Fellaini - Pogba - Young
    Martial
    Lukaku​

    Think Bailly will be back for this. If we can hunt them on the counter we can win.

    Hope for a classic Jose's 1-0 win on Arsenal.
     

    Turamb

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    De Gea
    Valencia - Lindelof - Smalling - Young
    Herrera - Matic - Pogba
    Mata - Lukaku - Martial

    Though it might be 3 at the back, I don't know
     

    James Peril

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    I feel better about this one. They will provide room for us on the counter and their defensive line is never great. Unlike at Anfield, where fear and bragging rights are always involved to a certain degree, we will be more involved on Saturday for sure. Keep a tight unit at the back, focus on counters - and not only because it’s smart and safer, but it’s the way to beat Arsenal. Martial to be key....

    Would take a draw, but not really.... I think we can sneak past them on a good day.
     

    minoo-utd

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    Just Hope Matic is fit for this, No place for Herrera, Mkhitaryan and Mata as the three became unbelievably poor and that's sad, but good for Lingard to step up, Lukaku need to be back on the scoring sheet.
    Martial has to start.
     

    bosnian_red

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    Martial has to start this no matter what - he is our most talented attacker, most productive this season and most in form. Also as a striker as he then brings out more from Lukaku usuall. It's a no brainer IMO. Young as well on current amazing form. Lindelof could easily keep his place but Bailly if he's fit should start all the time.

    After them, there's question marks on who should or will start for a few positions. Feck knows who to play for the 10. Nobody performs well at right wing, and our 10's are all off form while Lingard normally disappoints in games like this, and then rashford I don't think deserves to start this after his recent form (plus not being his position). Absolutely not Ibra either for that. Maybe Herrera/fellaini to make a midfield 3? Andre has been off form but he normally performs well in big games. Fellaini usually does alright in them too tbf. Id go with:

    De Gea
    Bailly Smalling Rojo
    Valencia Herrera Matic Pogba Young
    Lukaku Martial​
     

    sammsky1

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    DDG

    Lindelof Smalling Rojo

    Valencia Matic Fellaini Young

    Pogba

    Lukaku Martial​
    Its that or

    DDG
    Lindelof Smalling Rojo
    Valencia Matic Pogba Young
    Lingard Lukaku Rashford

    I'd go with your option as it will bully Arsenal's cryboys into submission.

    Mad that choosing Fellaini vsLingard will most likely cost us the points.
     

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    Don't think we'll see much change from today's team with the exception of Matic possibly being out, I don't think Mata or Mkhi have done enough to shift Lingard from tonight's game.


     

    Harry190

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    They've had their dose of luck since last week and this past week-end. It's time to feel it.
     

    prtk0811

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    Pay back time.

    Dont get me wrong , it will be tough but Should triumph over arsenal in the end.
     

    prtk0811

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    Its that or

    DDG
    Lindelof Smalling Rojo
    Valencia Matic Pogba Young
    Lingard Lukaku Rashford

    I'd go with your option as it will bully Arsenal's cryboys into submission.

    Mad that choosing Fellaini vsLingard will most likely cost us the points.
    WOuld like to start martial again over rashford. HE's in better form and more deadly on his dribbling.
     

    Jaap

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    Love the annual Arsenal away.

    De Gea
    Lindelöf Smalling Rojo
    Valencia Pogba Matić Young
    Rashford Martial
    Lukaku
     

    Art

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    Matic is integral to our team. Don't feel confident with Herrera at our DM
     

    oneniltothearsenal

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    In the mid '90s, they appointed another visionary in Arsène Wenger with former vice-chairman David Dein bringing him to the club in 1996 - Dein actually wanted to appoint him a year earlier before Bruce Rioch but the old school board did not want a foreign manager - and the next 20 years have been a remarkable and unforgettable period in the club’s history - with Arsenal building a reputation for playing an attractive, streamlined style of football that rivals some of the best teams in Europe while winning three league titles and four FACups and boasting the likes of Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp, Patrick Vieira, Robert Pirès, Cesc Fàbregas and Robin Van Persie in their ranks.
    Uh, Wenger has seven FA Cups.
     
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Man of the Match

David de Gea image David de Gea 84% of 930 votes

Runners-up

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Score Predictions

321,92,138
  • Man Utd win
  • Arsenal win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 22% Arsenal 1:2 Man Utd
  • 15% Arsenal 1:1 Man Utd
  • 12% Arsenal 0:1 Man Utd
  • 10% Arsenal 0:2 Man Utd
  • 6% Arsenal 0:0 Man Utd
  • 6% Arsenal 1:3 Man Utd
  • 5% Arsenal 2:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Arsenal 2:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Arsenal 2:2 Man Utd
  • 3% Arsenal 1:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Arsenal 2:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Arsenal 0:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 5:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 0:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Arsenal 1:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Arsenal 4:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Arsenal 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Arsenal 3:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Arsenal 2:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Arsenal 5:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Arsenal 1:5 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Arsenal
  2. Man Utd
Possession
75% 25%
Shots
33 8
Shots on Target
16 4
Corners
12 1
Fouls
11 10

Referee

Andre Marriner