Aston Villa 2:2 Manchester United

goptun · Jan 16, 2022

LJJT said:
Agree. Only now are people realising his hard it is to manage this team. OGS held this group together and we were a fecking team. We are utter garbage now

Absolute fecking nonsense. What on Earth was Ole holding together? Were we held together when Liverpool spanked us 5 nil at home? What about when City utterly dominated us, also at home? Or the Watford thrashing? People are weird. We've lost one game under Rangnick so far, we were much worse under Ole.

If we learn to emulate our 1st half-game into the second we'll be alright until the summer.

Plant0x84 · Jan 16, 2022

goptun said:
Absolute fecking nonsense. What on Earth was Ole holding together? Were we held together when Liverpool spanked us 5 nil at home? What about when City utterly dominated us, also at home? Or the Watford thrashing? People are weird. We've lost one game under Rangnick so far, we were much worse under Ole.

If we learn to emulate our 1st half-game into the second we'll be alright until the summer.

Put aside results and performances for a moment. Under Ole we had a happy squad, it was hailed as the best squad we’ve had in years. Now all of a sudden we’re back to in fighting, player wanting out and insubordination like Hendo and Martial. Now our players are lazy, useless, spoilt mercenaries and we need a rebuild apparently. We didn’t hear any dissenting voices before or leaked negative press every other day. OGS man managed these boys well and kept them happy. He was quite literally holding the club together.
Add to that our performances that haven’t improved, results which are uninspiring and games that are quite often dull and boring. Just leaves a sense that the grass isn’t always greener.

Hughie77 · Jan 16, 2022

Just let this game get away, from us, should have controlled it more after the 2nd goal, RR was talking about going to a back 3 but decided against it. The players need to get more ball possession when leading games, It was a very good performance from them. This is a much improved Villa side as well, overall we should be disappointed not get all 3 pts. Could see a fair bit more energy in players , Greenwood looked OK as did Elanga, still think we can do with a CM who can break things up more. We see in JAN if we get one, players have to leave first. Summer is my guess.

Houdini · Jan 16, 2022

goptun said:
Absolute fecking nonsense. What on Earth was Ole holding together? Were we held together when Liverpool spanked us 5 nil at home? What about when City utterly dominated us, also at home? Or the Watford thrashing? People are weird. We've lost one game under Rangnick so far, we were much worse under Ole.

If we learn to emulate our 1st half-game into the second we'll be alright until the summer.

Good point but we had much easier run of games under Ralf to be fair.

goptun · Jan 16, 2022

Plant0x84 said:
Put aside results and performances for a moment. Under Ole we had a happy squad, it was hailed as the best squad we’ve had in years. Now all of a sudden we’re back to in fighting, player wanting out and insubordination like Hendo and Martial. Now our players are lazy, useless, spoilt mercenaries and we need a rebuild apparently. We didn’t hear any dissenting voices before or leaked negative press every other day. OGS man managed these boys well and kept them happy. He was quite literally holding the club together.
Add to that our performances that haven’t improved, results which are uninspiring and games that are quite often dull and boring. Just leaves a sense that the grass isn’t always greener.

I couldn't care less if the players are unhappy about Rangnick making them run, or making them train in the dark. The dissenting voices are utterly pathetic and need weeding out, hence why we're now seeing a public fallout with Martial. The vast majority of United fans would love to see Martial leave as soon as possible.

And besides, it's incredibly revisionist to try and claim there weren't reports of discord under Ole. There were fecking loads. Ronaldo not impressed with Ole and his coaches, Ronaldo and Greenwood unhappy with each other, Donny and Lingard with the usual routine through agents/social media, it was constant!

Dve · Jan 18, 2022

VP89 said:
Im consistent. He was a shit coach who wouldn't have come 2nd if Conte and Tuchel were coaching their relative squads earler than if he joined United.

We had more points after 22 rounds last season than Chelsea have this season. Tuchel must be shit too.

VP89 · Jan 18, 2022

Dve said:
We had more points after 22 rounds last season than Chelsea have this season. Tuchel must be shit too.

Tuchel had covid crisis issues during the most congested time of the season. As I said, Ole started this season and could barely get 30% of it through before being found out.

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