It's hard to read much into their season. They're still Atletico with Simeone as coach. Them being off form this season doesn't relate much to the capacity they have to focus it all on the CL and bring out their usual annoying selves. I expect it'll be a tough time.
Champions League Round of 16 1st Leg
Atletico Madrid 1:1 Manchester United
Wanda Metropolitano Stadium
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- Wed, 23 February 2022 @ 8:00pm GMT
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Discussion Your Lineup Prediction
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Man, i am afraid Ronaldo will play because it is the Champions League and stink up the place. He has lost his touch. All he now does is try to shoot and miss easy chances. Unfortunate that Rashford is also having a shocker. No Martial. Probably no Cavani. Hopefully Ronaldo turns up and takes United through.
Not sure how that works but statistically they dont give up 'a bucket' of chances, particularly at home.
They just gave up 14 shots in a game they won 3-0. Only 7 teams have conceded more goals than them and 5 of them being the current bottom 5 with 2 of those teams barely conceding more.
The problem with Atletico is that they had a good start to the season and completely fell away. Maybe that buffers their current defensive ability stats wise since you are literally the only person I’ve read who is trying to argue against this point. Maybe having such a shocking keeper warps the XG or something.
Edit maybe this means something
The team's defence is shaken, and they can't seem to surpass competitors in 'clearances per match'. They sit 18th in La Liga's 'Clearances per match' table.
XG might be bluffing here since you don’t need a so called old chance to score against them because the defenders throw them in so often. A chance to score v Atletico isn’t as fine edge as a chance to score against others?Last edited:I've always wondered what that bear is trying to find in the tree
Their keeper massively under performing isn't the same as giving up a lot of chances.
Why would 'clearances per match' be a good thing? Surely better teams need to clear it less?
Anyway hopefully you're right on Wednesday.
Deez nutsWould like to see :
————-—DDG————
Dalot-Varane-Victor-Shaw
—————McT———————
——-Fred-Bruno-Pogba—-
———-Sancho-Ronaldo—
Which will be interesting. Midfield is quite obviously our weakest link and most CL teams can easily go toe to toe with us and win the midfield battle. Simeone stepping off might help us…?This is a Marcus Rashford game if I ever saw one. He will destroy them if he plays, can see him scoring a couple.
Marcus Rashford has not been destroying anything for a long, long time.
So he will therefore never do so again.
Atletico is in a very bad shape, Carrasco who was one of their best players is not going to play, Griezzman still does not arrive at the game and was very important.
If Atlético park the bus as is presumable, then they will have to play as a striker Cunha or Correa. Luis Suarez is very slow to play 60 meters from the opposing goal, also against fast players like Varane and AWB.
The defense is watering, Hermoso defends badly and is slow, Felipe is not in a good moment and Giménez has just come out of covid.
It's a golden opportunity for United but... Who knows.
I like that line up. Bring on Rashford for Ronaldo towards the end and he can hit them with speed while they are tired
No white text?If anyone is living in London and wants to meet up and watch the game then DM me!
Especially if you're around N5.Fred seems to be the ultimate impact sub but we don't have that sort of luxury in midfield. Hope we nick a draw at least and get a win at OT
Think he'll go with this team as well except more of a 4 1 2 2 1.
Mct
Fred pogba
Bruno Sancho
RonaldoGot to keep it tight away from home and hope to nick something.
DDG
Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw
McTom Vidic Fred
Sancho Rashford BrunoRonaldo has to play against Atleti. He can knock them out as per usual.DDG
Dalot Varane Maguire Telles
Pogba McT Bruno
Rashford Ronaldo SanchoEven though I don't think we've got a cat in hells chance of winning the CL....
I'd love to knock these lot out.
Wonder if Beckham will be in town for the home leg to see his old pal.
I expect Pogba and Fred to start in midfield.
Ronaldo will certainly start. So McT wont be starting.
Absolutely no chance McTominay doesn't start.Our knack for throwing away leads is worrying going into this fixture, you can't get away with that in the UClAtletico's domestic league record this season is virtually the same as UTD, still hoping for a win for UTD though.
I'm old enough to remember the last time we were paired together in European competition, no UK TV coverage so i had to listen to the match (1st leg) on the radio, the first leg was also away (just like it is this time) & we were losing 1-0 with 5 minutes to go, not too shabby despite no away goal to take to OT & then in those final 5 minutes we concede 2 more goals & lose 3-0 making it very difficult for the second leg, do not want a repeat of that scoreline this time round.Would like to see :
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Dalot-Varane-Victor-Shaw
----McT----Fred---Pogba—-
Rashford-----Bruno—-Sancho-
Ronaldo off the bench - But its not going to happen.Carrasco will be a huge miss for them.
I think the complete opposite. They park the bus so we'll have to try break them down while they hit us on the counter.
Rashford is more suited when it's the other way round.A draw would be fine for me. We usually have issue against Spanish sides so it will be tough.
I am not confident at all, but this Atleti side at the moment is as bad as us, so it will probably be a boring game.
--------------------------------------------De Gea---------------------------------------------
Wan Bissaka----------------Varane----------Maguire----------------------Shaw
--------------------------Mc Tominay-----------Pogba----------------------------------
Rashford-------------------------------Bruno------------------------------------Sancho
-------------------------------------------Ronaldo-----------------------------------------------I would play Fred and McT in CM and give Pogba the wide left role. Pogba/Bruno/Sancho in behind Ronaldo.Ralf will go all out for a win.
Then they wont just defend when they come here.Recent record against Spanish sides in European competition (including knockout ties as one and group games as separate)
Villareal 2021/22 - W
Villareal 2021/22 - W
Villareal 2020/21 - L
Granada 2020/21 - W
Real Sociedad 2020/21 - W
Sevilla 2019/20 - L
Barcelona 2018/19 - L
Valencia 2018/19 - L
Valencia 2018/19 - D
Sevilla 2017/18 - L
Celta Vigo 2016/17 - W
Real Sociedad 2013/14 - D
Real Sociedad 2013/14 - W
Real Madrid 2012/13 - L
Atletico Bilbao 2011/12 - L
Barcelona 2010/11 - L
Valencia 2010/11 - D
Valencia 2010/11 - W
Barcelona 2008/09 - L
Villarreal 2008/09 - D
Villareal 2008/09 - D
Pretty grim. Only notable victory since the 2008 win against Barcelona is a 2017 EL semi-final win over Celta Vigo, in which I’m still wondering how they didn’t score at the end of to go through.Last edited:
Hope we get a Win, be crucial getting an away goal or 2. They haven't been at there best for ages so could be a good time to play them hopefully.........................VS............................
Date: Tuesday, February 23 2022
Kickoff Time: 2000 Hrs GMT
Venue: Wanda Metropolitano Stadium, Madrid
Champions League Form Guide
Manchester United: WWDWD
Atlético Madrid: WLLLW
Previous Meetings in the Champions League
Manchester United 1—1 Atlético Madrid
Atlético Madrid 3—0 Manchester United
All-Time Record in the Champions League
Manchester United wins: 0
Atlético Madrid wins: 1
Draws: 1
Pre-Match Pressers
Ralf Rangnick
Diego Simeone
Team News
Manchester United
Eric Bailly and Edinson Cavani ruled out.
Atlético Madrid
Yannick Carrasco suspended. Daniel Wass, Koke, Thomas Lemar, Matheus Cunha and Benjamin Lecomte doubtful.
Know the opposition
Club Atlético de Madrid, S.A.D. (meaning Athletic Club of Madrid), commonly referred to as Atlético Madrid in English or simply as Atlético or Atleti (and nicknamed Colchoneros or Indios), is a Spanish professional football club based in Madrid. The club was founded on 26 April 1903 as Athletic Club Sucursal de Madrid by three Basque students living in Madrid. These founders saw the new club as a youth branch of their childhood team, Athletic Club de Bilbao who they had just seen win the 1903 Copa del Rey Final in the city. In 1904, they were joined by dissident members of Real Madrid. Athletic's first ground, the Ronda de Vallecas, was in the eponymous working-class area on the south side of the city. In 1919, the Compañía Urbanizadora Metropolitana—the company that ran the underground communication system in Madrid—acquired some land, near the Ciudad Universitaria. In 1921, Athletic Madrid became independent of parent-club Athletic Bilbao and moved into a 35,800-seater stadium built by the company, the Estadio Metropolitano de Madrid.
During the 1920s, Athletic won the Campeonato del Centro three times and were Copa del Rey runners-up in 1921, where they faced parent club Athletic Bilbao, as they would again in 1926. Based on these successes, in 1928 they were invited to join the Primera División of the inaugural La Liga played the following year. By 1939, when La Liga had resumed, Athletic had merged with Aviación Nacional of Zaragoza to become Athletic Aviación de Madrid. Aviación Nacional had been founded in 1939 by members of the Spanish Air Force. With the legendary Ricardo Zamora as manager, the club subsequently won their first La Liga title in 1940 and retained the title in 1941. Under Helenio Herrera and with the help of Larbi Benbarek, Atlético won La Liga again in 1950 and 1951. With the departure of Herrera in 1953, the club began to slip behind Real Madrid and Barcelona and for the remainder of the 1950s were left to battle it out with Athletic Bilbao for the title of third team in Spain. However, during the 1960s and 1970s, Atlético Madrid seriously challenged Barcelona for the position of second team — and after winning La Liga in 1973, the club reached the 1974 European Cup Final.
In terms of league titles won, Atlético Madrid are the third most successful club in Spanish football – behind Real Madrid and Barcelona. Atlético have won La Liga on eleven occasions, including a league and cup double in 1996; the Copa del Rey on ten occasions; two Supercopas de España, one Copa Presidente FEF and one Copa Eva Duarte; in Europe, they won the European Cup Winners' Cup in 1962, were runners-up in 1963 and 1986, were UEFA Champions League runners-up in 1974, 2014 and 2016, won the Europa League in 2010, 2012 and 2018, and won the UEFA Super Cup in 2010, 2012 and 2018 as well as the 1974 Intercontinental Cup. They are the reigning champions of La Liga. Atletico Madrid's fiercest rivals are Real Madrid (contests between them are named El Derbi Madrileño or simply El Derbi). A historic rivalry also exists between Atlético Madrid and Barcelona, considered one of the Classics of Spanish football — apart from minor but vivid rivalries with Espanyol and Villareal. The club play their home games at the Wanda Metropolitano Stadium.
Referee
Ovidiu Haţegan
The away goals rule has been scrapped thankfully. I've always hated it.Last edited:Do you lads really see Ralf dropping Maguire for Varane?Ronaldo
Pogba Bruno Sancho
Fred Mct
Shaw Maguire Varane Dalot
DDG
We are not nearly as bad as some people are suggesting. 18 games since Ole got sacked. 10 wins, 7 draws, 1 loss.
In 3 of those draws we created enough to win comfortably but our atrocious finishing let us down. You can clearly see the improvement under Ralf. I don't think it is so unrealistic for us to win this competition. We need to go all out agains Atletico and show the world we are not to be taken lightly.
Is he definitely missing it? He's back in training so might make it.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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10%
Victor Lindelof
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5%
Nemanja Matic
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3%
Raphael Varane
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3%
Fred
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2%
Bruno Fernandes
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2%
Jadon Sancho
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1%
Harry Maguire
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Alex Telles
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 266 ratings.
Score Predictions
87,46,78
- Man Utd win
- Atletico Madrid win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 28% Atletico Madrid 1:1 Man Utd
- 18% Atletico Madrid 1:2 Man Utd
- 9% Atletico Madrid 0:2 Man Utd
- 8% Atletico Madrid 2:0 Man Utd
- 6% Atletico Madrid 0:1 Man Utd
- 6% Atletico Madrid 2:1 Man Utd
- 5% Atletico Madrid 0:0 Man Utd
- 4% Atletico Madrid 1:0 Man Utd
- 3% Atletico Madrid 2:2 Man Utd
- 3% Atletico Madrid 1:3 Man Utd
- 2% Atletico Madrid 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Atletico Madrid 0:3 Man Utd
- 1% Atletico Madrid 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Atletico Madrid 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Atletico Madrid 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Atletico Madrid 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% Atletico Madrid 4:1 Man Utd
- 0% Atletico Madrid 2:5 Man Utd
- 0% Atletico Madrid 3:0 Man Utd
- 0% Atletico Madrid 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Atletico Madrid 3:2 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Atletico Madrid
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 37% 63%
- Shots
- 13 7
- Shots on Target
- 1 2
- Corners
- 8 3
- Fouls
- 19 16
Referee
Ovidiu Hategan
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Alex Telles
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replaced by Nemanja Matic
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replaced by Anthony Elanga
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replaced by Jesse Lingard
