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Bournemouth 1:3 Manchester United

Bournemouth 1:3 Man Utd

Vitality Stadium

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Sun, 14 August 2016
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  1. Aug 14, 2016

    MDFC Manager Full Member

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    Twice the player Stones is
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    Will Singh Full Member

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    I can't believe I'm agreeing with Souness, we have to chase those dead balls and Rooney ain't gonna do it, spot on you cnut
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    JTW95 Gullible sausage

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    fecking hell play him as a number 10
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    Mr Smith Full Member

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    Good half. Not amazing, but we did cope with some fairly intense pressure from Bournmouth in the first 15-20 quite well. Obviously a bit lucky to be ahead. Some notable features of the game/our approach:
    - Mata's selection (and positioning) is justified, and not just because of the goal. It's interesting, and satisfying, to note how much positional freedom he's been given in attack, he's roamed into the middle quite frequently, which has left a lot of space for Valencia to storm into. This looks like a specific strategy, and has produced some of our best moments.

    - Fellaini appears to be being used as a pure destroyer, which you have to say has also been justified as he's hardly put a foot wrong in the first half. Seems clear that Mourinho sees breaking up the play as his primary function/attribute, and as a result I don't see him shipping out of Manchester any time soon.

    - We played a lot of long balls particularly in the first 20 minutes. It's difficult to say whether this was simply due to Bournmouth's very impressive pressing, or a specific instruction from Mourinho. Either way, they weren't used well, as Ibrahimovic was largely isolated when receiving them, and didn't always bring the ball down well in any case. If we're going to play that game, then Martial needs to be much closer to Ibra so that there's someone to run onto his knock-downs.

    - Our defence, despite a couple of shaky moments from Shaw, seems very solid on the whole. Bailly continues to impress me, and anyone who still thinks Blind can't/shouldn't play at CB has too high standards.

    - Unclear what specific instructions/role Rooney has been given. He hasn't exactly done anything bad, but he hasn't been involved or dangerous enough to justify being played at #10 in this system either.

    - I feel like we could be feeding Martial and Mata a little more, as they are probably our most creative players. Think that will happen as things open up in the second half and Bournmouth tire.

    Those who feel this was pedestrian or boring should probably get used to the fact that Mourinho is often defence/organisation first, attack second. Also, you know, this is our first game and our best player is out.
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    yumtum DUX' bumchum

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    And to think, if SAF had stayed just one more year he'd have fecked Rooney off! Shame Moyes didn't have the balls what SAF was in the process of doing, he shouldn't have been given another contract, let's hope this club don't make the same mistake...
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    #07 makes new threads with tweets in the OP

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    Lots of people forgetting we lost this fixture last season. Three points is all that counts for me. I wanna win the league, not the Wenger performance trophy or a moral cup.
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    Raees Legal Guardian of the Football forums

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    Thats fine, but over the years I think he has proven otherwise.
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    pseudo_canadian Full Member

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    Would undoubtedly be better than Rooney.
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    Herrera and Fellaini isn't a combo I saw us ever using apart from when injuries had dictated otherwise.
    But we're 1-0 up, and a first game win is so important to set the tone.

    Schneiderlin seems to be well down the pecking order.
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    Alex Styles Full Member

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    it's like our engine is clogged with him in it. in playing terms, it's like we're a man down ALL THE TIME!1
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    Pheww, we're winning this game by one goal to nil, but it has yet again been an underwhelming performance. It just all looks to LVG-esque. I think we're also lacking a bit of match sharpness.

    When I saw the team sheet I was gutted. There is almost no pace in the team and it seems as if Mourinho is cocky enough to take a gamble with this team rather than fielding his strongest line-up and making a true statement with a comfortable win. It (the line-up) reminds me of something LVG did before the MK Dons game, where he effectively chose a line-up of players he was doubtful about and effectively threw them under the bus after the defeat in order to reason their dismissal. Or could this be our Europa League team? I'm confused!!

    Obviously Mourinho is not fielding a line-up of all the players he wants to get rid off, but I think he is putting a few players to the test here. If you ask me we already have two candidates: Feillani and sadly Rooney. They're just not good enough and are slowing the play down. Herrera is trying the best he can but with Feillaini beside him there is no cover and mobility. Rooney needs to be swapped for Mhiki and Feillani needs to be replaced with Carrick and hopefully the goalfest can begin.

    Away fans gave it all and have been chanting uninterrupted. What's with some of the chants though? At times one could think there is a Roy Chubby Brown gig at the vitality rather than a football match.
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    BringNaniBack Leaves a bullshit trail behind him

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    Exactly.
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    GloryHunter07 Full Member

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    :lol:

    Cnut. :nono:
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    Kill 'em all Pastor of Muppets

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    The way Rooney keeps playing and the way he keeps getting picked by every manager since Sir Alex it makes me think that he has something in his contract which makes him an automatic starter when fit. There's no other way to describe his performances these last 4 years other than completely shit.
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    Von Mistelroum Full Member

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    Rooney has been a complete joke. Mata isn't a winger. Herrera has been largely anonymous and Fellaini is just gormless.

    Mata should play where Rooney is if he's playing. Makes you wonder why Mkhitaryan isn't playing though. Poor in training? He wasn't very good in the last preseason match as I recall.

    We still look very much like a Van Gaal side though.
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    JustinC00 Full Member

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    5 shots
    3 shots on goal
    1 goal (from a route one football)
    with 49% possession

    Last season it would have been

    1 shot (from a move that had 50 passes before the attempt was made)
    0 shots on goal
    68% possession
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    Denis79 Full Member

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    LVG converted him?
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    EyeInTheSky Full Member

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    I think HM will open this game up, but in place of rooney
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    devil in me Full Member

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    Im with you there.
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    Sparky Rhiwabon Full Member

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    Is it a case of

    a) it's going to take time for Jose to change our style from LVG's to his own

    b) Their styles are not actually very different.

    c) A bit of both
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    I have a man crush on Valencia. Dunno why, think he just fecking loves it here.
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    JTW95 Gullible sausage

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    Great news guys! Rooney is still playing.
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    Juansar_07 New Member

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    Bailly is a breath of fresh air.Pure Dominance.That is how we were used to the standards of defending.Still too early to predict.But one can see the worldly potetial in their.
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    Mihai Full Member

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    Fair enough, I am pleased Jose starting XI is based on performances.
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    pseudo_canadian Full Member

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    250th appearance today as well.

    Quite an achievement.
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    ottosec Full Member

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    Bailly :lol:
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    Mr Smith Full Member

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    Does anyone who doesn't do absolutely everything perfect automatically qualify as poor for you? He's tried to make stuff happen, not everything has come off. Try to keep the knee-jerks to a minimum, would you please?
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    DomesticTadpole Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.

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    Just come home, there seems to be difference of opinion about performances, but I get the impression that you all think Rooney has been terrible.
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    Drifter American

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    Poor cross there.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Indeed. Especially given our away form last year. Pogba will also bring a lot to our midfield, and for different reasons we haven't had the best preparation pre season so far - with transfers, the EURO's players coming back from holiday and so forth. The team would need some time to gel and hit the stride.

    Besides, the best part so far - as every other Mourinho team - we're really organized at the back, which is good to see with Bailly also excelling in the first half.

    When Rooney is off the first team (looks like it) we would be much more potent up front, but being defensively solid is a great start.
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    I'm beginning to really despise Rooney on the pitch...its so bad to what he used to be its sad :(
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    spwd likes: servals, breasts, rylan clark and zooey

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    Most definitely!

    Really, hope Zlatan gives him some shit because someone needs to!
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    Redplane Full Member

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    What gave you that idea? :D
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    Sparky Rhiwabon Full Member

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    I think he's pinged a few nice balls out wide but generally he has slowed our play down. The same as last season!
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    De Gea, Bailly Smalling Shaw, titles are won with defences like this
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    Lostie007 New Member

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    Bournemouth look like they will score..
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    Dobba Full Member

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    Bar Valencia's for Ibra's battering ram moment, its been shithouse all afternoon.
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    Will Singh Full Member

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    Because Rooney is in the illuminati
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    JTW95 Gullible sausage

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    Crikey Ibra you are asking a lot there from Mata :lol:
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    Hammerfell Full Member

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    Bournemouth are a ridiculously flimsy team.
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