Crystal Palace 2:3 Manchester United

Lucky McLuckerson · Feb 25, 2018

......VS......

Date - Monday, March 05 2018
Kickoff Time - 2000 Hrs GMT
Venue - Selhurst Park, London

League standings and form guide

2. Manchester United : WLWLW

17. Crystal Palace : LDDLL

Previous Meetings

Manchester United 4—0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 2—0 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace 1—2 Manchester United

Manchester United 2—0 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace 0—0 Manchester United

All-Time Record

Manchester United wins - 34
Crystal Palace wins - 7
Draws - 10

Pre-Match Pressers

José Mourinho

Roy Hodgson

Team News

Manchester United

Zlatan Ibrahimović, Marouane Fellaini, Ander Herrera and Daley Blind ruled out. Marcos Rojo and Phil Jones doubtful.

Crystal Palace

Timothy Fosu-Mensah ineligible to play. Connor Wickham, Ruben-Loftus Cheek, Jason Puncheon, Scott Dann, Jeffrey Schlupp, Bakary Sako, Julián Speroni and Mamadou Sakho ruled out. Wilfried Zaha, James Ward and Yohan Cabaye doubtful.

Know the opposition

Crystal Palace Football Club (nicknamed CPFC, The Glaziers and The Eagles) are a professional football club based in South Norwood, London. Crystal Palace were founded in 1905 at the site of the famous Crystal Palace Exhibition building by the owners of the FA Cup Final stadium, who wanted their own team to play at the historic venue. When Crystal Palace were founded, they turned to one of the biggest clubs in the country at the time, Aston Villa, to seek advice. Villa helped the club in a number of ways, not least by donating their kit. As a result, Palace's colors were originally claret and blue shirts paired with white shorts, socks tending to be claret. They kept to this formula fairly consistently until 1938.

The club initially played their home games at the FA Cup Final stadium which was situated inside the grounds of The Crystal Palace, but the First World War saw them forced to move out, and they enjoyed a number of seasons at both the Herne Hill Velodrome and The Nest. Although Crystal Palace have never won a major trophy, they have played in the First Division for the majority of their existence, finishing 3rd once, and losing the 1990 FA Cup Final to Manchester United. Crystal Palace play their homes games at Selhurst Park, and share sporting rivalries with South London neighbors Milwall, former tenants Charlton, and Brighton & Hove Albion.

Familiar Faces

Wilfried Zaha (at United from 2013-2015) and Timothy Fosu-Mensah (On loan)

Referee

Neil Swarbrick.

Todd · Feb 25, 2018

Hate Monday fixtures

Drawfull · Feb 25, 2018

They defended well today against Spurs. Will be a tough game.

Same as today, please.

BluesJr · Feb 25, 2018

Who do Liverpool and Spurs have? Looks like another must win, should be more than possible with some momentum hopefully behind us now.

Raw · Feb 25, 2018

This is going to be a horrible game, Palace are becoming a tough team to beat at their ground.

At least Fosu Mensah can't play

BluesJr said:
Who do Liverpool and Spurs have? Looks like another must win, should be more than possible with some momentum hopefully behind us now.

Liverpool have Newcastle at home, Spurs have Huddersfield at home and Chelsea have City away. So it looks like another must win.

peridigm · Feb 25, 2018

BluesJr said:
Who do Liverpool and Spurs have? Looks like another must win, should be more than possible with some momentum hopefully behind us now.

FSW and Huddersfield respectively. Both at home.

bosnian_red · Feb 25, 2018

Just because we finally got a big win doesn't mean we can relax. Every single one of our next 4 games (5 before today) are must wins (or 4 wins and 1 draw) given our form in 2018. We can't slip from 2nd. We can't lose to Liverpool at home. We need to get through the next round in the FA cup and champions league. Hopefully now they have some confidence and we can build on it.
On the game, would rest matic, give Bailly and Shaw starts, and keep the front 3. Team like palace I think we'll need martial or rashford more then lingard or mata to give the cutting edge.

De Gea
Valencia Lindelof Bailly Shaw
Mctominay Carrick pogba
Sanchez Martial
Lukaku

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Another must win game.

Same formation as today I reckon, except for Shaw. Think he'll start this so Young plays against Pool. Not that I want this but it's predictable.

haram · Feb 25, 2018

Drawfull said:
They defended well today against Spurs. Will be a tough game.

Same as today, please.

They were lucky Kane missed a few sitters.

Drawfull · Feb 25, 2018

haram said:
They were lucky Kane missed a few sitters.

And Aurier's too. You could see how gutted Roy was at the end, they'd put in a shift and sometimes you need to take a bit of luck along with the effort.

charlenefan · Feb 25, 2018

Sanchez scored twice there for Arsenal over Christmas

Trizy · Feb 25, 2018

Sticky fixture. We'll concede for sure.

cyberman · Feb 25, 2018

Palace are stupidly toothless. If we score, we'll win.

Nickosaur · Feb 25, 2018

Even though they kept it at 0-0 very late against Spurs, that was more down to Spurs' slow start and wasted chances. Thought they looked poor throughout.

Today's result is great but means nothing if we can't beat these lot. Because Spurs and Liverpool will get 3 points in easy fixtures at home.

Offside · Feb 25, 2018

Need an early goal.

Catt · Feb 25, 2018

Monday night? Oh come on now!

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

So, Crystal Palace has 12 players injured now. Maybe some will recover in these 8 days till the game. But Roy Hodgson must be doing a job on them, really.

Coops73 · Feb 25, 2018

If we attack!attack!attack! we could have this lot easy, without Zaha they’re completely toothless but it’s an away game on a Monday night, I swear we struggle in these type of games.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

If I know Mourinho, he'll drop this 4-4-2 “midfield square” (or 4-2-2-2), that worked against Chelsea and more importantly managed to solve the Martial/Sánchez conundrum for a moment, for a simpler 4-3-3, or even going back to 4-2-3-1, again forcing Pogba in a midfield two. It's indeed hard to leave all of Rashford, Lingard and Mata out.

Walters_19_MuFc · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
If I know Mourinho, he'll drop this 4-4-2 “midfield square” (or 4-2-2-2), that worked against Chelsea and more importantly managed to solve the Martial/Sánchez conundrum for a moment, for a simpler 4-3-3, or even going back to 4-2-3-1, again forcing Pogba in a midfield two. It's indeed hard to leave all of Rashford, Lingard and Mata out.

Would he drop McTominay after his recent performances, though?

Nickosaur · Feb 25, 2018

Saw someone on reddit say that Matic is banned for this game...is that true or bullshit??

He's so important to us but he does desperately need a rest.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

Walters_19_MuFc said:
Would he drop McTominay after his recent performances, though?

The question might be, do we need him against Crystal Palace?

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

Nickosaur said:
Saw someone on reddit say that Matic is banned for this game...is that true or bullshit??

He's so important to us but he does desperately need a rest.

5th yellow, so, seems like it.

Nickosaur · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
5th yellow, so, seems like it.

Oh, if it's only 5th, doesn't that get reset in 2018? So it now takes 10 yellows to be suspended?

I'll be honest I have no fecking clue

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
The question might be, do we need him against Crystal Palace?

After the shite show against Newcastle I think so.

Di Maria's angel · Feb 25, 2018

Nickosaur said:
Oh, if it's only 5th, doesn't that get reset in 2018? So it now takes 10 yellows to be suspended?

I'll be honest I have no fecking clue

Pretty sure it's 10 in the new year.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

el3mel said:
After the shite show against Newcastle I think so.

We won Burnley away without him.

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
We won Burnley away without him.

I'm not confident any more of going 2 midfielders away from home since that Newcastle game. We can always sub him off later if we struggle to score.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

el3mel said:
I'm not confident any more of going 2 midfielders away from home since that Newcastle game. We can always sub him off later if we struggle to score.

Who said something about two midfielders? That's why I've mentioned the Burnley away game.

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
Who said something about two midfielders? That's why I've mentioned the Burnley away game.

Well, we have only him, Carrick, Pogba and Matic. If Scott doesn't play it'll be Lingard most probably replacing him.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

el3mel said:
Well, we have only him, Carrick, Pogba and Matic. If Scott doesn't play it'll be Lingard most probably replacing him.

Yeah, as #8. If it was sufficient for Burnley away, it should be enough for Crystal Palace. At least, that's what I'm hoping. The idea we have to play McTominay as an extra to every game Pogba plays is depressing.

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
Yeah, as #8. If it was sufficient for Burnley away, it should be enough for Crystal Palace. At least, that's what I'm hoping. The idea we have to play McTominay as an extra to every game Pogba plays is depressing.

That's my point. I actually don't trust this formation anymore.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

el3mel said:
That's my point. I actually don't trust this formation anymore.

What formation, 4-3-3? Are we going to play 4-4-2 diamond every game whatsoever now? I don't believe it.

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
What formation, 4-3-3? Are we going to play 4-4-2 diamond every game whatsoever now? I don't believe it.

No, as good as he's, I don't trust using Lingard as part of midfield 3 anymore. If we're going to play 4-3-3 better to do it with 3 proper midfielders imo.

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

el3mel said:
No, as good as he's, I don't trust using Lingard as part of midfield 3 anymore. If we're going to play 4-3-3 better to do it with 3 proper midfielders imo.

Yeah, we don't want to be like City in that respect, no, gosh, to put two #10 as #8 would diminish us…

Walters_19_MuFc · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
The question might be, do we need him against Crystal Palace?

Well we played him against Huddersfield, both in the cup and in the league, and probably could have done with him against Newcastle.

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

Android1974 said:
Yeah, we don't want to be like City in that respect, no, gosh, to put two #10 as #8 would diminish us…

I don't think Matic has the legs to keep covering the whole defensive side on his own. He looked better with another player defending beside him as in Scott. Pogba's defensive side is a concern and Lingard isn't a proper midfield. KDB and Silva does a lot of defensive work as well as their offensive ones. We had seen Silva doing some dirty tackles against us at Old Trafford earlier.

I think playing Scott now suits everyone. Helps Matic on defensive side and allows Pogba to push forward without worrying about his defensive liability. Balance is very important.

BenjaminP · Feb 25, 2018

No Saha. Should be a comfortable win.

el3mel · Feb 25, 2018

BenjaminP said:
No Saha. Should be a comfortable win.

Thought he retired ages ago..

Android1974 · Feb 25, 2018

el3mel said:
I don't think Matic has the legs to keep covering the whole defensive side on his own. He looked better with another player defending beside him as in Scott. Pogba's defensive side is a concern and Lingard isn't a proper midfield. KDB and Silva does a lot of defensive work as well as their offensive ones. We had seen Silva doing some dirty tackles against us at Old Trafford earlier.

I think playing Scott now suits everyone. Helps Matic on defensive side and allows Pogba to push forward without worrying about his defensive liability. Balance is very important.

I understand and generaly agree, I just don't feel facing Crystal Palace is the same than Chelsea with Hazard. One curious thing was Mourinho guaranteeing in the press conference after the game that “McTominay can also shoot”, like, he has other facets to his game. If that starts showing, then we have a player, even for these supposedly easier games where we should have more of possession.

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