Derby County 0:3 Manchester United

FootyGirl88 · Mar 2, 2020

Surely Tuanzebe is fit for this?

Havak · Mar 2, 2020

theklr said:
I really hope he leaves out Maguire, he has played too many games in a row.

I'd chuck Jones in for Maguire and McT and Matic for one half each. Isnt Fosu-Mensah soon ready for action?

I'd agree, but Maguire has only missed four games all season. One was through injury against Man City in the League Cup which he would have started. One was the game where the Europa League group was all but won. So, realistically he's only been rested for two games early on in the season (our first two Europa League fixtures, when that competition is a bit less of a priority). Still, that does probably suggest it is time he was rested as this is arguably our last chance to rest our best players (unless we thump LASK away for example and can rest players in the Home leg). It's a bit of a toss-up as I personally wouldn't like to see Calamity Jones play for us any more... I hope Tuanzebe is fit, I'd rather him and Bailly start.

Honestly though, if you offered me a win against Derby and a draw against Man City at the moment, I'd probably take that more-so than the other way around. I think we have more chance of beating Spurs and Sheffield United and those results will be more telling in where we finish this season in the Premier League.

Water Melon · Mar 2, 2020

Will not be crying if we lose this. The squad is paper thin to play in the prem and we also have EL. We do not have enough squad depth to compete in 3 competitions.

Josh 76 · Mar 2, 2020

Water Melon said:
Will not be crying if we lose this. The squad is paper thin to play in the prem and we also have EL. We do not have enough squad depth to compete in 3 competitions.

Even if we tried to lose, we couldn't. Derby are crap. Got family who are season ticket holders at pride park. Since Lampard left with the loan players, Derby are a sinking ship.

red woppit · Mar 2, 2020

Josh 76 said:
Even if we tried to lose, we couldn't. Derby are crap. Got family who are season ticket holders at pride park. Since Lampard left with the loan players, Derby are a sinking ship.

Saw them against my home town, Northampton, in the last round, and they didn't look that good (although they will certainly pick up the tempo against United), could have beaten them with a little bit of good fortune, even so, we scored two at Pride Park, and Derby's penalty was a bit of a joke. Would expect a strong first half from Derby, but will run out of steam second half, especially if we make Rooney run around a bit.

Rozay · Mar 2, 2020

TMDaines said:
You either go second XI or full strength. Don't leave Bruno and Maguire trying to carry Lingard and Pereira against a side who have lost only twice at home all season, and either losing or having to play 120 minutes.

Would be curious to know your rationale behind this, other than perhaps to have a pop at Lingard and Pereira. You seem to be suggesting that because Lingard and Pereira are not very good, we would be better off playing them with other not very good players, as opposed to our better ones?

Nou_Camp99 · Mar 2, 2020

What's more important to us this season? A cup or CL football? Given our fairly shaky looking financial figures I'd say the top 4 / Europa league is way more important than the Cup. Normally I'd argue that winning a trophy is better finishing 4th but maybe this year it's not. The continuation of the re-build could be resting on us getting back in. Sancho certainly won't be joining if we're back in the Ropey cup.

sewey89 · Mar 2, 2020

Nou_Camp99 said:
What's more important to us this season? A cup or CL football? Given our fairly shaky looking financial figures I'd say the top 4 / Europa league is way more important than the Cup. Normally I'd argue that winning a trophy is better finishing 4th but maybe this year it's not. The continuation of the re-build could be resting on us getting back in. Sancho certainly won't be joining if we're back in the Ropey cup.

Champions League football next season is much more important to us than winning the FA Cup this season. But we should be able to make changes and still get past this derby team.

USREDEVIL · Mar 2, 2020

This is a low priority game and with a fairly winnable opponent. Time to rotate bigly:

Romero
Dalot Bailly Jones Williams
Matic
Pereira Mata
Greenwood Ighalo James

Dve · Mar 2, 2020

Nou_Camp99 said:
What's more important to us this season? A cup or CL football? Given our fairly shaky looking financial figures I'd say the top 4 / Europa league is way more important than the Cup. Normally I'd argue that winning a trophy is better finishing 4th but maybe this year it's not. The continuation of the re-build could be resting on us getting back in. Sancho certainly won't be joining if we're back in the Ropey cup.

Agree. And with City/Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal still in the cup, winning the EL and/or ending top 4 looks far easier as well. We should of course play every game with the intention of winning, but use the FA cup to give the fringe players some needed game time.

UnofficialDevil · Mar 2, 2020

Harry190 said:
Gonna see the white Pele again. It's been too long.

Agreed. I miss him. Legend.

Seven Seas Sardines · Mar 2, 2020

FootyGirl88 said:
Surely Tuanzebe is fit for this?

Him and TFM will play in the U23s game.

FootyGirl88 · Mar 2, 2020

Seven Seas Sardines said:
Him and TFM will play in the U23s game.

Oh ok thanks

Paul_Scholes18 · Mar 2, 2020

Tom Cato said:
I guarantee you all the money, Rooney will score.

Doesn't he play DM now? Although he might take the pens for them.

MyOnlySolskjaer · Mar 2, 2020

Walters_19_MuFc · Mar 2, 2020

UnofficialDevil said:
Agreed. I miss him. Legend.

Me too!

Walters_19_MuFc · Mar 2, 2020

Paul_Scholes18 said:
Doesn't he play DM now? Although he might take the pens for them.

Depends. Think he'll play behind the forward against us, as Cocu will probably assume we'll have more of the ball.

TMDaines · Mar 2, 2020

Rozay said:
Would be curious to know your rationale behind this, other than perhaps to have a pop at Lingard and Pereira. You seem to be suggesting that because Lingard and Pereira are not very good, we would be better off playing them with other not very good players, as opposed to our better ones?

The rationale is you do either one or two things: A) maximise the chance of winning the FA Cup match by picking your strongest team, or B) you accept that it isn't a priority and prioritise the City match with the squad selection for Thursday reflecting that.

What you don't do is play a second XI with the additions of Bruno and Maguire expected to carry a disjointed team, because you absolutely do not want those two playing 120 minutes unnecessarily.

TMDaines · Mar 2, 2020

Josh 76 said:
Even if we tried to lose, we couldn't. Derby are crap. Got family who are season ticket holders at pride park. Since Lampard left with the loan players, Derby are a sinking ship.

They've lost just twice at home all season. They are very good at home.

Rozay · Mar 2, 2020

TMDaines said:
The rationale is you do either one or two things: A) maximise the chance of winning the FA Cup match by picking your strongest team, or B) you accept that it isn't a priority and prioritise the City match with the squad selection for Thursday reflecting that.

What you don't do is play a second XI with the additions of Bruno and Maguire expected to carry a disjointed team, because you absolutely do not want those two playing 120 minutes unnecessarily.

Or C), which is the most likely thing - play a team you believe is good enough to get a result. This is likely to require at least SOME of your first XI even if not all.

Amerifan · Mar 3, 2020

Gerald G said:
I'd go for a full rotation. We're playing so many games we must rest players when having the opportunity. If we end up getting knocked out then so be it. With that in mind:

Romero
Dalot--Bailly--Jones--Williams
McTominay--Pereira
Lingard--Mata--James
Ighalo

Subs: Bishop; Laird, Lindelof; Matic, Gomes; Chong, Greenwood

Jones worries me and Pereira and Lingard are pretty garbage but we're playing a Championship. It won't be an easy game but I'd definitely rather we rest players for the City game.

Spot on. McT needs the work, but everyone else needs a rest. The lads ran out of gas the second half of the Everton game.

Giant Midget · Mar 3, 2020

Romero
Dalot Bailey Maguire Williams
Pereira Matic
Greenwood Lingard James
Ighalo

ericthered76 · Mar 3, 2020

SirAnderson said:
Wayne to get on the score sheet for us.

UnofficialDevil said:
Agreed. I miss him. Legend.

This.

The guy, albeit born in the wrong city for some on here, who has made many of us celebrate more United goals than any other, gets to play vs United for the first time in some 17 years. It will be awesome to see. Unless he scores.

Shame its not at OT really as the scale of the reception would have been fantastic. The away crew will as always make plenty of noise but OT for this would have been better. Match going United are a class apart when it comes to previous players and the warmth/respect they show.

Rooney fanboi? nah. Rooney playing one two's with Ronnie fan boi? all day long.

Now lets smash them/him. ;-)

YzWayne · Mar 3, 2020

I saw my mate
The other day
He said to me he will still take him over lingard any day

jymufc20 · Mar 3, 2020

ericthered76 said:
This.

The guy, albeit born in the wrong city for some on here, who has made many of us celebrate more United goals than any other, gets to play vs United for the first time in some 17 years. It will be awesome to see. Unless he scores.

Shame its not at OT really as the scale of the reception would have been fantastic. The away crew will as always make plenty of noise but OT for this would have been better. Match going United are a class apart when it comes to previous players and the warmth/respect they show.

Rooney fanboi? nah. Rooney playing one two's with Ronnie fan boi? all day long.

Now lets smash them/him. ;-)

Didn't he play against us for Everton in his second spell there ?

Stobzilla · Mar 3, 2020

Full rotation.

Romero

Dalot
Bailly
Jones
Williams

McTominay
Pereira

Chong
Gomes
James

Ighalo

Subs
Bishop, Fosu-Mensah, Shaw, Fred, Lingard, Greenwood, Martial

Inigo Montoya · Mar 3, 2020

We'll beat them. They're nowhere near as good as the PL teams we've played of late

12OunceEpilogue · Mar 3, 2020

USREDEVIL said:
This is a low priority game and with a fairly winnable opponent. Time to rotate bigly:

Romero
Dalot Bailly Jones Williams
Matic
Pereira Mata
Greenwood Ighalo James

I'd go further still: Garner and Chong should start and why not Gomes and even Fosu Mensa if fit? Hell if Demetri Mitchell fancies a game he can have one. Short of giving the likes of McTominay, back from injury, and Ighalo minutes I'm not keen to risk any first teamers in this game.

Raw · Mar 3, 2020

jymufc20 said:
Didn't he play against us for Everton in his second spell there ?

He did. Twice. Lost 4-0 at OT and lost 2-0 at Goodison.

Champagne Football · Mar 3, 2020

Garner has to start.

ManchesterYoda · Mar 3, 2020

Ighalo
Martial - Mata - Chong
Matic - McTominay
Williams - Jones - Bailly - Dalot
De Gea

I'd want to rest a few players but still have a decently strong team. I want to win FA Cup so I would be very bothered if we lose and go out. Don't understand why so many don't care about FA Cup anymore.

ArjenIsM3 · Mar 3, 2020

Romero
Dalot-Maguire-Tuanzebe-Williams
Garner
McTominay-Fernandes
Greenwood-Ighalo-Martial

Dan_F · Mar 3, 2020

This is why playing all of our fit midfielders in the same game was silly. So hard to know who’s fit, but Martial, Matic, Maguire, AWB, Shaw, Bruno should all be rested.

Romero
Dalot
Bailly
Jones
Williams
Fred
SMT
Mata
Lingard or Pereira
James or Chong
Ighalo

12OunceEpilogue · Mar 3, 2020

ManchesterYoda said:
Ighalo
Martial - Mata - Chong
Matic - McTominay
Williams - Jones - Bailly - Dalot
De Gea

I'd want to rest a few players but still have a decently strong team. I want to win FA Cup so I would be very bothered if we lose and go out. Don't understand why so many don't care about FA Cup anymore.

I just think we have to accept this competition is third priority and we've a thin, injury-hit squad. We can trust a less-experienced team to do the business and if they don't it'll be a shame but not seriously damaging to our season.

El Zoido · Mar 3, 2020

Full rotation please. This is not our priority.

That said, even our backups should have enough about them to win this game, depends how hard Derby fight for it.

Adam-Utd · Mar 3, 2020

Romero, Williams, Maguire, Bailly, Dalot, Matic, Pereira, Lingard, James, Greenwood, Ighalo

Sassy Colin · Mar 3, 2020

Derby are shit, they really shouldn't trouble us.

ash_86 · Mar 3, 2020

We play derby against city in two days after this game. Shame on TV companies that give likes of Liverpool 3 days to prepare and only us that'll have 2 days.

Random Task · Mar 3, 2020

I went to my first ever away game at Pride Park

We lost

Offside · Mar 3, 2020

ash_86 said:
We play derby against city in two days after this game. Shame on TV companies that give likes of Liverpool 3 days to prepare and only us that'll have 2 days.

We play City 3 days after this game.

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