Manchester United 0:2 Burnley

Castia · Jan 20, 2020

Rozay said:
If I had a dollar for everytime I read this. Literally every match day thread.

There is no indication, at all, outside of Redcafe megathreads, that Ole’s job is at imminent risk.

There’s loads of speculation about his job what are you talking about? Oleout is usually trending number 1 every time we drops points, pundits like Carragher are starting to question him and just this week Poch in the summer rumours started again.

Rozay · Jan 20, 2020

Castia said:
There’s loads of speculation about his job what are you talking about? Oleout is usually trending number 1 every time we drops points, pundits like Carragher are starting to question him and just this week Poch in the summer rumours started again.

There isn’t. Trending is irrelevant, it is just Redcafe extrapolated. The pundits ask the question yes, and even then, in a very balanced way, not in the manner in which they launched campaigns against Van Gaal and Mourinho.

Most importantly, every single noise coming from the club suggests that they fully believe in Ole’s project for the longer term. Nothing at all suggests he has a couple of games to save his job.

sewey89 · Jan 20, 2020

We've not beaten these at Old Trafford since 2015.

Alabaster Codify7 · Jan 20, 2020

I'm expecting disappointment, an injury or two and a terrible, terrible game of football that sees Burnley's thugs spend 90mins hobbling us.

-------------------------------------DDG-------------------------------------------
AWB--------------Lindelöf----------Maguire--------------------Williams
---------------------Fred-----------------Matic---------------------------------
--------------------------------Mata-------------------------------------------------
Greenwood---------------Martial---------------------------------James

SUBS - Jones (Maguire - injured); Pereira (Mata); Lingard (Martial - injured).

Man United 0 - 0 Burnley

RedBanker · Jan 20, 2020

We are in love with the status quo. So even if it's a loss or even if the next 5 games are, Ole, Woodward, Glazers etc. are not going anywhere, no matter how much we want changes. But we need all the 3 points we can get. This game and in as many games thereafter.

Offside · Jan 20, 2020

Recent results v Burnley. Headline is we haven't beaten them at home since they returned to the Premier League in 2016:

19/20:

Burnley 0-2 Manchester Utd (Martial, Rashford)

18/19:

Manchester Utd 2-2 Burnley (Pogba, Lindelof; Barnes, Wood)

Burnley 0-2 Manchester Utd (Lukaku x2)

17/18:

Burnley 0-1 Manchester Utd (Martial)

Manchester Utd 2-2 Burnley (Lingard x2; Barnes, Defour)

16/17:

Burnley 0-2 Manchester Utd (Martial, Rooney)

Manchester Utd 0-0 Burnley

14/15:

Manchester Utd 3-1 Burnley (Smalling x2, van Persie; Ings)

Burnley 0-0 Manchester Utd

09/10:

Manchester Utd 3-0 Burnley (Rooney, Berbatov, Diouf)

Burnley 1-0 Manchester Utd (Blake)

Siorac · Jan 20, 2020

They're going to kick the living shit out of us again, aren't they?

Sassy Colin · Jan 20, 2020

They just beat Leicester.

dove · Jan 20, 2020

1-1. We somehow score first, park the bus in the 2nd half and concede a corner.

Paul_Scholes18 · Jan 20, 2020

charlenefan said:
A reminder of Burnley's last 3 visits to OT

0-0
2-2
2-2

We don't beat them at home

One of them is the Lingard show right! Time to play him as we know history is always the most relevant thing in football!

RedIan · Jan 20, 2020

Castia said:
There’s loads of speculation about his job what are you talking about? Oleout is usually trending number 1 every time we drops points, pundits like Carragher are starting to question him and just this week Poch in the summer rumours started again.

Pundits will always debate Man United managers who are not winning all before them... interestingly the ex United player pundits all back Ole. Whilst teh ex Liverpool player questions him as the right man.
Trending - is bollocks. Social media means nothing. We can moan all we like, baring a major disaster ole will be here next season.

Nou_Camp99 · Jan 20, 2020

We're not finishing top 4 anyway guys. Even with Rashford it would have been touch and go with Chelsea clear favs. Without him we've no chance. Our season will come down to the FA cup and most importantly the Europa league. We somehow need to stay in the Europa until Rashford, Scott n Pogba are all back plus hopefully 1 or 2 new signings (not hold my breath).

Paul_Scholes18 · Jan 20, 2020

Dinghy said:
Would love it if some experts could provide me with a list over players who looks like they might need a rest so that we'll know who Ole will deliberately try to get injured next.

Lindelöf maybe? Maguire? I think Fred and Matic looks fresh though. Not sure Martial looks tired either.

Wayne's World · Jan 20, 2020

Don't care about the result but I wish and hope the hardcore United fans protest inside and outside the ground calling for the Glazers and Woodward to go because they have destroyed the football club

Castia · Jan 20, 2020

RedIan said:
Pundits will always debate Man United managers who are not winning all before them... interestingly the ex United player pundits all back Ole. Whilst teh ex Liverpool player questions him as the right man.
Trending - is bollocks. Social media means nothing. We can moan all we like, baring a major disaster ole will be here next season.

You’re probably right but I think it will be a massive opportunity lost if we don’t get 4th, Chelsea are as inconsistent as us and Spurs/Arsenal are shite.

Not sure his job is 100% safe without top 4 with Poch around.

Gerald G · Jan 20, 2020

De Gea
Dalot--Lindelof--Maguire--Shaw
Fred--Matic
Greenwood--Mata--James
Martial

Subs: Romero; AWB, Williams, Bailly; Pereira, Lingard; Chong (Gomes)

Chong or Gomes for the final position on the bench

Raven · Jan 20, 2020

I would surprised if we don't beat this lot, we usually bounce back fairly well.

always_hoping · Jan 20, 2020

charlenefan said:
A reminder of Burnley's last 3 visits to OT

0-0
2-2
2-2

We don't beat them at home

And I'm sure plenty thought before those games that United would have a easy win..

SuperiorXI · Jan 20, 2020

Be interesting to see if there's a lot of empty seats Wednesday.

Sp00ks11 · Jan 20, 2020

In the spirit of all the small time United fans on here who celebrate and are proud of the character shown by only losing 2-0 to Liverpool, I think holding out for a draw and gaining a point would be a fantastic result for us. Progress.

The United way.

pratyush_utd · Jan 21, 2020

Win here is absolutely crucial if we want to make it to top 4.

4-4-2 : Will suit James and Dalot.
De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Williams
Matic - Fred
Dalot ------ James
Greenwood - Martial

Mostly Andreas will play over Dalot and Mata over Greenwood in reality

roonster09 · Jan 21, 2020

charlenefan said:
A reminder of Burnley's last 3 visits to OT

0-0
2-2
2-2

We don't beat them at home

Those 2-2 draws, I think they were 2-0 up in both games.

Bebestation · Jan 21, 2020

If Greenwood doesn't start we have no chance.

James - Martial - Greenwood

Possibly bring Mata back in to create clear chances.

pratyush_utd · Jan 21, 2020

Also Martial always scores against Burnley so I would expect him to score.

SpyLuke10 · Jan 21, 2020

Mata is perfect for this kind of game. Maybe this is also an opportunity to give Maguire or Lindelof a rest? Let Bailly start as others have been saying. Maybe the same goes for Wan-Bissaka and we should use Dalot to try and break them down.

Potential starting XI:

De Gea

Dalot Bailly Maguire Williams

Fred Matic

Greenwood Mata James

Martial

Annihilate Now! · Jan 21, 2020

I find it crazy that, on the 1st of January we knew we only really had Fred and Matic as fit central midfielders for a large remainder of the season... yet here we are, 7 games later and we still only have Fred and Matic as fit central midfielders... I mean if that doesn't show how inept Woodward is, then nothing will.

Anyway, I guess we have to start Fred & Matic (frankly, its a miracle that neither of them have broken down yet).... Reckon the front four will be Mata, Greenwood, Andreas and Martial.

fergieisold · Jan 21, 2020

Castia said:
There’s loads of speculation about his job what are you talking about? Oleout is usually trending number 1 every time we drops points, pundits like Carragher are starting to question him and just this week Poch in the summer rumours started again.

No chance he's at risk, he's doing a good job ripping the squad apart and putting us on a path that will reap rewards in the future. I've never seen so much crap on the caf about a manager.

Castia · Jan 21, 2020

fergieisold said:
No chance he's at risk, he's doing a good job ripping the squad apart and putting us on a path that will reap rewards in the future. I've never seen so much crap on the caf about a manager.

There’s talk again today about Poch in the summer.

Ole isn’t doing a job nobody else can do, what selling Lukaku and Sanchez is keeping him in the job? It’s not rocket science that a capable manager can see the likes of Lingard etc aren’t good enough.

Alabaster Codify7 · Jan 21, 2020

Annihilate Now! said:
I find it crazy that, on the 1st of January we knew we only really had Fred and Matic as fit central midfielders for a large remainder of the season... yet here we are, 7 games later and we still only have Fred and Matic as fit central midfielders... I mean if that doesn't show how inept Woodward is, then nothing will.

Anyway, I guess we have to start Fred & Matic (frankly, its a miracle that neither of them have broken down yet).... Reckon the front four will be Mata, Greenwood, Andreas and Martial.

Stop calling him inept. Inept would suggest he wants to sign players but can't make it happen - he is the opposite of inept, he wants to save the owners money = doesn't want to sign players if possible. He's doing a brilliant job, far from inept.

Red Star One · Jan 21, 2020

I would be sad if Greenwood didn't start.

groovyalbert · Jan 21, 2020

Havak said:
de Gea
Dalot Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred Matic
Mata
Greenwood Martial James
---
Romero; Wan-Bissaka, Williams, Jones; Andreas, Lingard; Chong

This with Williams in for Shaw, he looked completely dead on his feet at Anfield.

Svartzonker · Jan 21, 2020

Lindelöf is ill and will probably not play. So who is partnering Maguire? Shaw at cb? Bailly? Ffs not at least Jones.

Hopefully something like this:

DDG
AWB Bailly Maguire Williams
Matic Fred Pereira
Mata Greenwood Martial

3-0 United (Martial, Greenwood x2)

fergieisold · Jan 21, 2020

Castia said:
There’s talk again today about Poch in the summer.

Ole isn’t doing a job nobody else can do, what selling Lukaku and Sanchez is keeping him in the job? It’s not rocket science that a capable manager can see the likes of Lingard etc aren’t good enough.

why would we want Poch? Back to square one AGAIN?! give ole a couple of good transfer windows.

red_de_pologne · Jan 21, 2020

Annihilate Now! said:
I find it crazy that, on the 1st of January we knew we only really had Fred and Matic as fit central midfielders for a large remainder of the season... yet here we are, 7 games later and we still only have Fred and Matic as fit central midfielders... I mean if that doesn't show how inept Woodward is, then nothing will.

Anyway, I guess we have to start Fred & Matic (frankly, its a miracle that neither of them have broken down yet).... Reckon the front four will be Mata, Greenwood, Andreas and Martial.

Oh it's only a matter of time before one of them or both get injured and everyone knows this, Fred is being run to the ground Rashford style and Matic is 31 and not capable of playing 2 games a week for long.

Castia · Jan 21, 2020

fergieisold said:
why would we want Poch? Back to square one AGAIN?! give ole a couple of good transfer windows.

You’re Implying we’ve made strides? We’re worse now than under Jose in his worst season.

Squad so thin it’s almost laughable. People are fast to praise Ole's signings when in reality they’ve been pretty average whilst Lukaku and Smalling are having great seasons in Italy.

Why would we want Poch? He’s a proven manager capable of challenging without a transfer budget.

fergieisold · Jan 21, 2020

Castia said:
You’re Implying we’ve made strides? We’re worse now than under Jose in his worst season.

Squad so thin it’s almost laughable. People are fast to praise Ole's signings when in reality they’ve been pretty average whilst Lukaku and Smalling are having great seasons in Italy.

Why would we want Poch? He’s a proven manager capable of challenging without a transfer budget.

We're better than under Jose by some distance in terms of attitude, performances, style of play. The one issue is results and table position and I hope the signs of growth I can see will lead to the top 4. It is difficult this season with all the injuries though.

Ole's brave, he's shipped out dead wood and players that don't suit United. I'm not gonna start berating him when he's at the beginning of a huge build job.

always_hoping · Jan 21, 2020

roonster09 said:
Those 2-2 draws, I think they were 2-0 up in both games.

Correct.

December 2017 needed a 91st minute Lingard goal to grab a draw.

2-2 draw on January 2019 Burnley led 2-0. Pogba penalty on 87 minutes and Lindelof made it 2-2 on 92 minutes. If I recall right it was the first league points dropped under Ole.

Cantonagotmehere · Jan 21, 2020

I hate playing these boot stomping, shin kicking pricks and their whinging manager. Please beat them again. I truly wish they would get relegated.

top1whoisman · Jan 21, 2020

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Alabaster Codify7 · Jan 21, 2020

Ladies and gentlemen, please be upstanding for Mr Phil Jones!

Jones might actually do better against these thugs than that soft non-entity, Lindelöf. Jones is at least quite physical and slightly better in the air.

0-0 still my prediction.

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