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Manchester United 0:2 Burnley
Old Trafford
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- Wed, 22 January 2020 @ 8:15pm GMT
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Agree with you. This member should be reported.Can someone please post Ole's interview, my stream has gone off
What? I want Ole gone and have done for a long while. My post is about stuff that happens during games.
Fair play.
Just think the agenda narrative the OgS defendants use is tepid.
Glad we agree on the major point. OgS needs to go.
:applause:Under Jose United conceded 26 goals in the entire 2017/18 season, with Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia in defence.
In 2019/20 Ole's United has conceded 26 goals in 24 games with the worlds most expensive defender and the world's most expensive full back.
Nah I just meant you have lads coming on here and parroting the same tired shit about players. AWB awful going forward even though he’s had a good game and on another day could have had two assists from good crosses. Yer man acting like the Burnley centre backs didn’t have a storming last 30 minutes where they blocked all of our decent chances. Stuff like that. Jones earlier as well. A lot of “lol Jones injured himself” when it was the Burnley player shoving him in the side when he was running full pelt to stop a counter attack.I still think Ole is safe - or should be. He's been left in this situation by the board. Yes, he's made mistakes, but just look at the feckin squad. He set them up today okay and to be fair if we had some quality we would have scored one or two of those chances at the start. Part of the problem is when shit hits the fan and we need a different option there simply isn't one because we don't have the players. Signings urgently needed. Until that happens then we can't just go after Ole. The problems are much bigger than him.
Having said all of that, one thing he cannot do is defend the performance today - he has to show some dissatisfaction with the support he's getting from above.Where do we go from here ?
Ole will stay,no doubt, but this team looks mentally done.
They didn't look confident of getting back even when Burnley got the first.
Just a club stood still feeling sorry for itself while the owners suck the club dry financially.
I love Manchester United but this team are utter fart.
It's a fair point that we are playing badly and losing games we shouldn't, but that was the same under Moyes, LvG and Jose too. Yes fans are right to be upset and pissed off, but why do you think Ole would come out against his employers? He thinks and feels he can get United back to the top again so he's hardly going to just walk away and drop bombs when the club is already at a low.
I'm not defending him, just being rational. I don't like how things are either but none of that takes anything away from my feelings towards Ole as a person or as a player. The hate for him and the disrespect is pathetic. It's not like he's intentionally going out to lose. If anything his ethos towards youth is a breath of fresh air. It's just not working at the moment, and sadly it looks like he's going to fail as United manager. I find that sad tbh.
And martial is a close to a zero goal threat-such a seriously overrated player.It's not just that the squad is threadbare though. Yes, that is the fault of the higher ups. However, man for man this Utd team shouldn't be outplayed/outfought by pretty much anyone they come up against.
If the players simply aren't up for it then that comes down to the motivational and preparation skills of the manager.
All very fair points mate.
I can sometimes fall prey to the fact I’m using my phone & probably echo my old opinions sometimes.
There’s definitely a narrative for a player like Jones though where he’ll never shrug certain beliefs.Redcafe also needs to get with the program and clamp down on idiots saying vile things about Ole not shut down legit commentary about the state of the club.
Because I said nasty things about our clueless manager after one of the most inept displays I've seen? Deal with it, I don't rate him, haven't had faith in him for months. I have no faith in the upper management either.
Time and time again after horrendous, monotonous displays he smiles and plays the passive role. Tries to be the nice guy, everyone's friend. There's no fire, no passion. If you take offence at what I say, put me on ignore, it's what the button's for 'mate'.Ferdinand is close to tears. We all feel the same way. Woodward has fecking destroyed this club.
Seems to have been given the boot
We need Woodward out and with respect to Ole a replacement for him. Poch doesn't need compensation now.
I Think his position is sadly untenable. Woodward will hide behind that
I find it sad too. I love Ole the player, the goal against Bayern will remain my favourite football memory but unfortunately he is destroying his legacy. I can't blame him for hanging around and claiming his millions, I Imagine I would do the same in his shoes but he needs to understand that people will start to remember him as one of our worst ever managers rather than the legendary player he is. I guess I always thought Ole was the more old school manager with integrity who would walk away if he knew it wasn't working.Nails in coffin when Ole says he is getting the support he needs.Rio making his feelings known tonight.
Have to admit I had a tear in my eye at half time tooWoodward got 3 million plus last season.
Joke.Ive said it a million times...we lack quality. Would you take MacNeil over James? Yes. Pope over De Gea? Yes. Wood over Martial? Oui.
You have to be able to get a tune out of your players too Ole hasn’t been doing that. I have no doubt that if say Pep was our manager tonight we would of won.
Exactly. For all the criticism they get, they can push Ole forward and he gets the brunt of the media criticism.Just saw his post match interview. Ole looked broken-hearted. Genuinely feel sorry for him.
Because you called a legend a prick. Criticise his management,call him clueless no one has an issue. But slating him as a person and bullying his appearance is below the belt and reminiscent of a disrespectful punk that has nothing to do with the club.A real sad sight to see, I felt the bottom fall out of the club for at least Ole the boards reign. Fans knew there was nothing going to happen without Rashford making the front three work. We saw in the first quarter of the season with just Rashford on his own it was death when we were in the bottom half. Team can't function.
All the shocking dealings and poor management coming home to roost again as they did at the start. A couple of players out and were fecking garbage and should slip back down the table.
Jones as a backup defender, what a disgrace. We should be rotating Maguire, Lindelof and Smalling, trying out a partnership and not telling him he won't get any minutes so feck off to Italy.
Shaw's definitely should have stood. There wasn't a shove from what I saw.
The tv wasn’t so clear when the rain started so it was all good.
As a player? Legend. As a manager? Anything but, and the longer it goes on, the more he damages his reputation. I don't want him to be remembered as 'that awful tenure'. That's why I think he should cut and run. Meanwhile a concerted effort needs to go in to organising protests and boycotts to try and push Ed/Glazers out. Doubt that will happen though.
I take back the appearance slander. I was in a fit of rage post game and needed to vent, I'll hold my hands up for that. I've calmed down now. I'm now in the acceptance phase of grieving.Im not surprised you guys lost tonight tbh. Rashford is a big loss, a very promising player who was on top form prior to the injury and i hope he gets back sooner rather than later.
Genuinly cannot understand the hate directed towards ole though. He strikes me as a man of integrity and honesty. Ive read posts here saying things like not fit for the job, no passion, no clue, looks like this that and the other and its pretty shocking to be fair. He is one of your club legends. A player who always gave his all, often started as sub and never complained, a model pro in fact.
What was he meant to do when asked to manage the club? Turn it down?no. He was a winner so he accepted the challenge, and as you all no it is a challenging. Club in transition, big name players to move on, young players to bring in unrest with big name players and a possible takeover looming.
Hes doing better than i expected. Promising players with greenwood and james given a chance. Rashford so far playing well
Todays performance cannot be blamed on ole, or on the injury hit limited squad in my opinion. This is where utd are at the moment and i would imagine you may even slip further before the end of the season.
No need for personal attacks on a guy doing his best.
for me how he had no idea about a stress fracture in rashfords back is inexcusable and almost a sackable offence ....
how can we expect him to control a star studded squad when he cant control these no namesWe could still be playing right now and I don’t think we would have have scored. It did feel that way.
Yeah after Mourinho I can only see the board appointing people who like you say won't demand much money and try to work miracles with a threadbare squad.
Personally I cannot see many decent managers being willing to work under those terms which could well lean to another club legend interim appointment which is a horrendous idea.- Status
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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15%
Nemanja Matic
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13%
Phil Jones
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13%
Fred
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10%
Brandon Williams
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6%
Mason Greenwood
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2%
Juan Mata
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1%
Daniel James
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Jesse Lingard
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1%
Harry Maguire
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 271 ratings.
Score Predictions
232,9,43
- Man Utd win
- Burnley win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 32% Man Utd 2:0 Burnley
- 15% Man Utd 2:1 Burnley
- 15% Man Utd 1:0 Burnley
- 11% Man Utd 3:0 Burnley
- 9% Man Utd 1:1 Burnley
- 5% Man Utd 0:0 Burnley
- 4% Man Utd 3:1 Burnley
- 2% Man Utd 5:0 Burnley
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 Burnley
- 1% Man Utd 1:2 Burnley
- 1% Man Utd 4:0 Burnley
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Burnley
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 Burnley
- 1% Man Utd 2:2 Burnley
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Burnley
- 0% Man Utd 0:5 Burnley
- 0% Man Utd 3:2 Burnley
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Burnley
- Possession
- 72% 28%
- Shots
- 24 5
- Shots on Target
- 7 2
- Corners
- 5 2
- Fouls
- 11 7
Referee
Jonathan Moss
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Mason Greenwood
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