How do you think they will line up and how will they play away from home?This is a much tougher game than PSG. Have followed Leipzig religiously for the last 18 months and their power, running game and workrate is streets ahead of us.
We have better players but they play to a style that is so hard to stop, they attack you from all sides and not afraid to leave gaps to suffocate you in your own box.
Not a case of resting, more that they wont have the legs required in what will almost certainly be a high energy pressing onslaught from both sides.We won’t be resting our best players against Leipzig, they are too good for that. I know our schedule is tough and players will get overwhelmed but we have to treat CL seriously.
I would say the complete opposite. These are the games suited to Ole's counterattacking style. I think we will do well in the CL until we come up against a pragmatic manager. For example Simone will be a nightmare match for Ole.Going by what I incessantly hear about the gulf in class between both managers, anything less than a 7-0 loss, I'd be very underwhelmed by Nagelsmann.
If Ole wins though ...
I thought the best saved from Mendy came from Rashford?Cavani did more in the time he was on than rashford did the whole match. Despite not playing for 6 months. Rashford seems to have branded himself as an elite player but he’s more often than not brain dead in the attacking third.
I'm looking forward to this match up and it's gonna be interesting to see how both Ole and Nagelsmann approach the game.
If we play 4-2-3-1, that might count against Greenwood as you could have AWB in no man's land trying to track 2 players. If the double pivot is McFred though, he might just get the protection he needsI'm interested to see how we defend against their wing play especially on the left with Angelino movement. It's gonna be a good preparation too for Arsenal as the way play and how their LCB Tierney proves to be dangerous with his overlap and movement.
Any Utd fan who wants Leipzig to win based on some vain hope it will facilitate Nagelsmann's appointment should feck off.So do we want Caf favourite Ole to win or do we want the other Caf favourite Nagelsmann to win this match?
They are very different players imo. Rashford is a speedy attacker who is very useful for counters plus he’s good at shooting from distance. Cavani is much better box player. Both his biggest chances were close to goal.Cavani did more in the time he was on than rashford did the whole match. Despite not playing for 6 months. Rashford seems to have branded himself as an elite player but he’s more often than not brain dead in the attacking third.
Cavani could play the pivot in a front 3 with Martial. If Rashy's still feeling the effects of some hard challenges, he could go with Martial/Cavani/Greenwood.They are very different players imo. Rashford is a speedy attacker who is very useful for counters plus he’s good at shooting from distance. Cavani is much better box player. Both his biggest chances were close to goal.
I thought Leipzig looked vulnerable in CL last season when players ran in behind the CBs and on counters. If Ole want to play 5 at the back plus a strong defensive midfield, then I think we need Rashford. If we aim to dominate, then maybe Cavani is better.
Thanks for the detailed report, Adnan.I'm looking forward to this match up and it's gonna be interesting to see how both Ole and Nagelsmann approach the game.
It does seem like Nagelsmann prefers a variation of the back 3 formation whether that be 3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1. But he's also used a back 4 when he rested Lukas Klostermann against Schalke in a game they won 4-0 and he then proceeded to revert back to a 3 man back line in the very next game against Augsburg where he brought back Klostermann and partnered him with Upamecano and Halstenberg. Klostermann unfortunately suffered a knee injury in the game and will subsequently be out for several months and Nagelsmann has since used a back 4 in his absence but might be tempted to revert back to a 3 man back line against us if he feels the returning Ibrahima Konate is ready to start the game. Konate has been on the bench for the last few games but according to Nagelsmann he didn't feel he was ready to start a game just yet and was waiting for the opportune moment to start him in a game where he felt he could ease him in. But he did play the final 25 minutes against Istanbul in the UCL game on match day 1 so there's a outside chance he might play him from the start.
Leipzig will play as they always plays by building from the back patiently before trying to transition quickly once the ball is out of the first phase of the build up IMO. If he does play Konate and goes with a back 3 then expect one of the 3 CBs to step into midfield which will give them a numerical advantage in midfield and will open up passing lanes and create triangles which we should be mindful of. Off the ball they will apply high pressure and will attempt to cut off passing lanes and will try and shepherd our ball carriers to pass towards a designated wide receiver which will likely be Wan Bissaka, who I believe they will leave unmarked to set him up for the wide pressing trap. Konrad Laimer was normally the player for that job from midfield and he initiated the wide pressing trap in tandem with several other players superbly well. But he's out injured so they'll miss him in that regard. But I hope we don't attempt to play out from the back which right now doesn't suits us.
Another thing that Leipzig are very strong at is having players who can slot into several positions which allows them to change formation in-game which in-turn allows them to maintain structure in defensive or offensive transition.. Players like Tyler Adams who has been deployed at CB and midfield. Klostermann who is a fullback but has been deployed at CB. Angelino (ex City) who has been deployed at fullback/wingback/Left wing. Dani Olmo who has been deployed at wing forward and as a CAM. Forsberg who is a CAM but has also been deployed as a false #9 in a 3-4-3. Amadou Haidara a midfielder who is deployed as a wingback. I can go on but that's something we should be mindful of.
Konrad Laimer looks like he won't be playing so he will be a big miss for them. But Nagelsmann will likely use two of Kevin Kampl, Tyler Adams or Henrichs in a two man midfield who will provide the energy and legs in midfield. But what I'm interested in is will he start both Forsberg and Olmo in tandem. Both players have the guile and ingenuity to unlock defenses and will be dangerous if paired together and will have to be watched closely. Nagelsmann has deployed both players several times in the same line up so if he does play both then I'm expecting a 3-4-2-1 formation or even a 3-4-3 with Forsberg as the false #9 and Olmo as the LWF. Forsberg is also very dangerous on set pieces so we'll have to be mindful of that too but alot depends on if Nagelsmann feels Konate is ready to start. But it's very difficult to second second guess Nagelsmann due to his rotation of players.
For us I hope Ole starts Rashford with Martial because there's gonna be possibilities to get in behind which could cause Leipzig issues if we can advance play to a good level. If Konate doesn't play then I feel there's a possibility we could hurt them from set pieces with Maguire and Cavani potentially getting on the end of good deliveries from Telles or Fernandes. But the key is gonna be to stay disciplined and express ourselves in midfield and match Leipzig's high intensity. If we can manage that then we can win the game because we have quality players too.
Is it?Why would it be Henderson’s turn? We should angle to give out participation trophies. DDG has done nothing to warrant being dropped, Henderson will get his Carabao & FA starts in due time. If we beat Leipzig, then it’s almost four dead rubber games, especially with the back to back v. the Turkish team. That’s when Henderson should get a peek, not in what could be our most crucial group stage match.
Might as well insist on playing Bruno and Rashford, who are visibly fatigued.Yes, that's how professional football works
I doubt De Gea is feeling too fatigued mate.Might as well insist on playing Bruno and Rashford, who are visibly fatigued.
Throw rotation out of the window.
Professional football is playing your best players with little considerations on their fitness, so that when we lose next game, we can just blame "fatigue" or poor fitness as usual, and say our 2nd fiddles players are shit, instead of maybe improving their form by giving games.
It was your reference to Henderson.....Might as well insist on playing Bruno and Rashford, who are visibly fatigued.
Throw rotation out of the window.
Professional football is playing your best players with little considerations on their fitness, so that when we lose next game, we can just blame "fatigue" or poor fitness as usual, and say our 2nd fiddles players are shit, instead of maybe improving their form by giving games. Oh wait, we've been singing this excuses ever since last season post-lockdown until now.
That's one pacey wing: AWB, Telles, Greenwood and Ford. May be a bit overcrowded, though.5 Guaranteed starters:
- De Gea
Everything else is up in the air, I would like to see Axel,Telles & VDB all start though, especially the latter.
My preferred team with the above in mind:
______________________ De Gea ___________________________