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    Bayindir
    Yoro De Ligt Bruno Shaw
    Bruno Amad Bruno Casemiro Bruno Dorgu Bruno Bruno Bruno Bruno
    Mbeumo Bruno Sesko Bruno Cunha Bruno
     
    Livewire1974 said:
    I think he is already gone, its now just a mater of when.
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    Based on? Sources like Whitwell are saying he's going to get the year regardless of acutre results so you're basing this on hope I assume?
     
    AlexUTD said:
    Only way i will feel confident that we will win, if Amorim gets sacked and someone comes in and plays 4-3-3 with with Bruno more forward and 2 behind him. Sick to death of this 3 CB tactic.
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    We’ve been terrible with this tactic too, in fact didnt we all hate 4231 at one point? :lol:

    It’s obviously not as simple as the formation on paper of course.
     
    Berbasbullet said:
    We’ve been terrible with this tactic too, in fact didnt we all hate 4231 at one point? :lol:

    It’s obviously not as simple as the formation on paper of course.
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    We were 8th, a lot better than relegation candidates that we are with Amorim. 4231 or 433, why would anybody hate it? We hated how Ten Hag had us playing it. Pressing extremely high with players who didn't suit it and having giant gaps in midfield, and then focusing possession among the defenders before going long to attackers. That style has been roughly the same as Amorim, just in a worse formation.
     
    NLunited said:
    Bayindir
    Yoro De Ligt Bruno Shaw
    Bruno Amad Bruno Casemiro Bruno Dorgu Bruno Bruno Bruno Bruno
    Mbeumo Bruno Sesko Bruno Cunha Bruno
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    Too many players
     
    bosnian_red said:
    We were 8th, a lot better than relegation candidates that we are with Amorim. 4231 or 433, why would anybody hate it? We hated how Ten Hag had
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    I known mate, but we’ve been awful no matter the shape. :lol:
     
    TwoSheds said:
    Yoro has been pretty poor so far, not sure why he'd get the nod tbh.
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    I'm not necessarily disagreeing, he was poor v Man City. Teenage central defenders are going to have poor games and poor spells, and probably need time out of the team from time to time.

    But Shaw has been atrocious at times this season, as well as Maguire, but they don't get called out by Bruno in post match interviews! I guess the young kid is an easy target.

    But yeah I realise Ruben is in survival mode at the moment, so he's probably going to stick with experience to get short term results, even if those experienced players are extremely flawed.
     
    Kramer said:
    Please just play the new goalkeeper.

    If he’s worse than Bayindir, the people above Amorim need sacking.
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    That's what I don't understand. If Lammens is terrible, drops a few clangers and we lose, it's the one area of the team no one will reasonably blame Amorim for because he wanted Martinez!

    I have serious concerns that he must be really shit in training if Bayindir is keeping him out of the team!
     
    Oscar Bonavena said:
    I'm not necessarily disagreeing, he was poor v Man City. Teenage central defenders are going to have poor games and poor spells, and probably need time out of the team from time to time.

    But Shaw has been atrocious at times this season, as well as Maguire, but they don't get called out by Bruno in post match interviews! I guess the young kid is an easy target.

    But yeah I realise Ruben is in survival mode at the moment, so he's probably going to stick with experience to get short term results, even if those experienced players are extremely flawed.
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    Shaw and Maguire have both also had some good moments/games though, I suppose that's the difference. I agree it's still not good enough but ultimately this system just seems to expose any mistakes the defenders make and it's really only De Ligt and maybe Mazraoui who haven't made many. Unless you've either a set of world class defenders or at the very least a world class goalkeeper I don't see how this system can work consistently.
     
    Oscar Bonavena said:
    That's what I don't understand. If Lammens is terrible, drops a few clangers and we lose, it's the one area of the team no one will reasonably blame Amorim for because he wanted Martinez!

    I have serious concerns that he must be really shit in training if Bayindir is keeping him out of the team!
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    If you believe the leaks the opposite is true.
     
    Out of the next five games this is only one we have a decent chance of winning but Sunderland are not as weak as the newly promoted teams from last season.

    It is hard to care too much about the result as it feels like we are just going through the motions until Amorim is inevitably sacked.

    Would like to see Lammens, Mainoo, Amad and Yoro all start but it may well be a very similar lineup to the last game.
     
    Oscar Bonavena said:
    That's what I don't understand. If Lammens is terrible, drops a few clangers and we lose, it's the one area of the team no one will reasonably blame Amorim for because he wanted Martinez!

    I have serious concerns that he must be really shit in training if Bayindir is keeping him out of the team!
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    And I still believe that Martinez will come in January, even if Amorim isn’t there
     
    Oscar Bonavena said:
    That's what I don't understand. If Lammens is terrible, drops a few clangers and we lose, it's the one area of the team no one will reasonably blame Amorim for because he wanted Martinez!

    I have serious concerns that he must be really shit in training if Bayindir is keeping him out of the team!
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    More Amorim stubbornness than that. He didn't start Sessko immediately either, and we didn't even have a striker to start in his place, we played a false 9. It's no secret Amorim wanted proven PL players, hence he preferred Martinez and Watkins. Board overruled him, so bit of pettiness from him. Sessko eventually is getting his chance, when basically he had to. Bayindir wasn't great last week, Lammens will get his chance, just not as quick as we'd like.
     
    Another game before an international break when the manager is on the ropes. Which means an incredibly lucky win with either a red card, a penalty, or both. Which will be enough to earn him a stay of execution and bring many back into the fold. And after the break, disaster awaits.

    United 2:1.
     
    Why change lineup when you have the chance to "prove everyone" wrong by beating the team placed at number five.

    I hope and think that we will win tomorrow. I could not care less if it's Amorim on the bench or not. I just want United to start winning again. It's so boring constantly being this mediocre team.
     
    Just watched his press conference. He’s talking utter bollocks now about this system - he doesn’t even make sense when answering about how does he convince the fans now.
    Suggesting his system works one week and not the next - even when we win, it’s hardly convincing. Sunderland are going to walk through us tomorrow. 0-3
     
    Time to give Lemons a go. I’ll be over the moon with that change, I honestly don’t give a shit about the rest.

    There is no value in persisting with the known entity keeper who is absolute dogshit. He’s not the sole reason we’re losing, but he’s had a hand in plenty of goals conceded this season.
     
    Flight to Manchester is cancelled from Dublin because of the storm, blessing in disguise? :lol:

    Staying at a hotel and may be flying out early in morning.
     
    I just want a confident good performance. How hard can it be… win by like 3 goals to 0
     
    Oscar Bonavena said:
    That's what I don't understand. If Lammens is terrible, drops a few clangers and we lose, it's the one area of the team no one will reasonably blame Amorim for because he wanted Martinez!

    I have serious concerns that he must be really shit in training if Bayindir is keeping him out of the team!
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    Every single comment I’ve seen has been about how good he is, very composed and calm.
    It’s a Ruben thing, play certain players as you feel a loyalty to them, even though they let you down every week. He needs to stop that crap, first step put in the keeper who was purchased to be our No 1. Then play attacking fullbacks, the central defenders who can play a high line.
     
    The best we can hope for here is an ugly win, which I'd take in a heartbeat. I haven't watched Sunderland besides the opening weekend, but they seem to be quite a decent side currently and don't concede too many goals. Combine that with our usual inability to score and you can see where this might go Tomorrow.
     
    Offside said:
    Liverpool haven’t battered anyone in months. More likely we lose 3-1 with some embarrassing defensive/keeping moments, hatfuls of sitters, shocking wingback performances and a missed Bruno penalty.
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    Going on results so far this season, we'll luckily scrape a 1-0 victory, then get beat 5-0 in our next match against Pool.
     
    sp_cgb said:
    The best we can hope for here is an ugly win, which I'd take in a heartbeat. I haven't watched Sunderland besides the opening weekend, but they seem to be quite a decent side currently and don't concede too many goals. Combine that with our usual inability to score and you can see where this might go Tomorrow.
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    They've also not been to a massive stadium like Old Trafford yet.
     
    It won’t happen but I need to see changes to the lineup. Yoro de ligt heaven back line with maz and amad at wing backs and lammens as gk.
     
    We will win tomorrow , pressure on etc and we will respond .

    Lose at Anfield , draw to Brighton

    He’ll be gone in the November international break surely
     
    Livewire1974 said:
    I think he is already gone, its now just a mater of when.
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    Not what reports have been saying today. Ratcliffe is adamant on giving him a full season. Unless we get battered he’ll still be here… if we lose by 1 then he’s still here
     
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