Manchester United 2:1 West Ham United

Shyftyy · Sep 27, 2014

sunama said:
My thoughts exactly.
There was no need to panic.
We were 1 man down and we could've tried to keep possession.
I think it was panic which caused this - if in doubt, launch it.
If they were calm, I'm sure they'd prefer to keep possession, rather than launching the ball.
3 points though, can't complain.

Think that was the, still lingering, lack of confidence. There are a lot of positives to be taken away from this game though so hopefully it' gets better from here on.

Edit: confused myself with up-hill and down-hill in this context

sunama · Sep 27, 2014

We lost confidence going BEFORE Fletcher and Valancia were brought on.
I don't hold these players to blame at all.
The moment we lost Rooney, we pannicked and our ability to hold onto possession went out of the window.
The good thing though is that we didnt concede 3-4 goals (which we could've).
We did concede 1 goal only, but this was ruled offside (which IMO was wrong - it was a goal).

Luigi Galvani · Sep 27, 2014

Based on that awesome clearance from mcnair, superb blackflip header he should start next week too.

Paul_Scholes18 · Sep 27, 2014

Fantastic win so pleased we could keep that. Getting that offside up gave me so great feelings. Mcnair made us proud really good debut. Rafael though was our best player. Di Maria was sadly poor today, but still wining show that we go in the right way no at least. Finally something to be positive about. Lets beat Everton next they was poor today and have Europa league before so we should be able to beat them.

Dinghy · Sep 27, 2014

BarstoolProphet said:
The best thing is that our defense managed to shut out West Ham's wave after wave of attacks. I think we should focus on that, rather than our lack of offensive play after the red card.

Feel this was more down to luck than a great defensive performance. Even with us having ten men behind the ball all the time they got themselves to some quite dangerous positions which could/should have cost us...

Paul_Scholes18 · Sep 27, 2014

Dinghy said:
Feel this was more down to luck than a great defensive performance. Even with us having ten men behind the ball all the time they got themselves to some quite dangerous positions which could/should have cost us...

We did better today though. Thought Rojo, Rafael and Mcnair was really good and West Ham are not easy. It was a step in the right direction and should be morale boosting to win with 10 men.

ghagua · Sep 27, 2014

The midfielders need to do a much better job of getting hold of the ball and keeping possession. Di Maria, Herrera and Blind are good passers of the ball, but they give away the ball too much. Even with West Ham pressing, our defenders should not have had to deal with the ball so much.

detinUnaM · Sep 27, 2014

Was happy with every decision of LVG today. The starting 11 justified their selection with their first half performance. When Rooney went out he chose to keep RVP on instead of Falcao who was better at pressing since he was still not completely confident about falcao lasting 90 mins and that too leading a line alone. Also, RVP's contribution defensively at set pieces is a lot. He is a very good header of the ball defensively and offensively.

Thought Herrera was amazing today. Along with Rafael they split open West Ham many times. Hope he is fit for Everton. Rojo was good defensively but he plays too many risky passes when the receiver is surrounded and under pressure. He should cut that out. Blind was good too bot a little loose in possession sometimes.

All in all I am more happy that our defense was tested and they came out top. This will do a lot for their confidence.

Sandikan · Sep 27, 2014

so west ham at home then.

not in great form, central defenders all injured, Rooney sent off with 30mins to go.

And we still beat them. Because it's West Ham at home,

The Red Thinker · Sep 27, 2014

For a team under defensive crisis, To lose your captain to a straight red and for the young lad McNair to keep his head so well, I think we did extremely well. This will raise confidence and morale. It will also bring the team together.

Worried about Ander though. Hope he's alright.

KiD MoYeS · Sep 27, 2014

The Red Thinker said:
For a team under defensive crisis, To lose your captain to a straight red and for the young lad McNair to keep his head so well, I think we did extremely well. This will raise confidence and morale. It will also bring the team together.

Worried about Ander though. Hope he's alright.

I wouldn't be too worried about Herrera, he did walk off the pitch.

The Red Thinker · Sep 27, 2014

Sandikan said:
so west ham at home then.

not in great form, central defenders all injured, Rooney sent off with 30mins to go.

And we still beat them. Because it's West Ham at home,

That's underpaying it a bit. West Ham have been in great form off late and we're suffering from a lack if confidence and leadership.

We did well.

The Red Thinker · Sep 27, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
I wouldn't be too worried about Herrera, he did walk off the pitch.

You can walk off with bruised ribs mind you. It could yet be bad news. He's very important for us.

Ole Gunner Scholes · Sep 27, 2014

Rudi j said:
Remember city dominating arsenal with 10 men just a few weeks ago??

errr.. it was against Chelsea i guess :lol:

kdmaka · Sep 27, 2014

At least we are more exciting to watch then last year,I actually think I cant take much more excitment.

Rudi j · Sep 27, 2014

Ole Gunner Scholes said:
errr.. it was against Chelsea i guess

fak me all this stress has me losing my head :lol:

SirAnderson · Sep 27, 2014

So psyched, even though the second half was a bad performance, we can only get better from here. Rooney getting a red card, may be a blessing in disguise, forces LVG to play someone else in his place. I think Mata should start, dropping him isn't justified imo.

Schweinsteigeradi · Sep 27, 2014

sunama said:
We lost confidence going BEFORE Fletcher and Valancia were brought on.
I don't hold these players to blame at all.
The moment we lost Rooney, we pannicked and our ability to hold onto possession went out of the window.
The good thing though is that we didnt concede 3-4 goals (which we could've).
We did concede 1 goal only, but this was ruled offside (which IMO was wrong - it was a goal).

His head was offside. Seemed like a correct decision to me.

Nessaja · Sep 27, 2014

Rafael couldn't sleep after the last match - and I love him even more for it!!

I really hope he can stay fit now (jinx), we're just so much deadlier with him on the pitch! Brilliant performance first half today - and he doesn't hide when the going gets tough in the second half either!

bugmat · Sep 27, 2014

Great result, great first 45 minutes, great debut by McNair (*** backward header!) and Rojo did well to guide him. Shaw also had a great debut. Midfield was good until it was 10 men and then got knackered. Strikers -s till voerloaded but falcao has played well - deserves a goal next game.

I hope Herrera isn't injured as he's a boss! The team did well to get those 3 points and it will galvanise a few of them.

Better subs by LvG this game - Valencia gave us a bit of an outlet, Fletcher a bit of calm...but should have subbed RvP who was dead instead of Falcao (unless Falcao is still not match fit - he looked chagrined to come off).

And Rooney was playing well...but he is a poor captain. Deserved the red and now we will see how Mata does as the #10 with Falcao ahead of him.

RonaldoVII · Sep 27, 2014

Niall said:
I've set the lineup prediction closing time to 2pm to give people more time to get their predictions in.

Can you not manually edit mine to put McNair in for Thorpe? Had set off to the match before you'd fixed it:

RonaldoVII said:
For what it's worth I'd like to amend my prediction to McNair in for Thorpe @Niall @Damien

Darius_MUFC1991 · Sep 27, 2014

RonaldoVII said:
Can you not manually edit mine to put McNair in for Thorpe? Had set off to the match before you'd fixed it:

Same here. I put Thorpe cos McNair wasnt there!

bugmat · Sep 27, 2014

Schweinsteigeradi said:
His head was offside. Seemed like a correct decision to me.

Definitely - any part you can score with. The calls were all great today compared to last week!

Red_Manc_M15 · Sep 27, 2014

I thought McNair played very well for his first game and that clearance WOW!

Rooney is an idiot. If he didn't swing with as much venom in that kick he would of got a yellow but in a way I am glad because I prefer Mata over Rooney in the #10 role.

Even though Van Persie got the goal again I thought his overall play was poor looks uninterested.
I think Falcao offers more in his link up and hold up play. He just needs a goal then the floodgates will open.

Paul_Scholes18 · Sep 27, 2014

Nessaja said:
Rafael couldn't sleep after the last match - and I love him even more for it!!

I really hope he can stay fit now (jinx), we're just so much deadlier with him on the pitch! Brilliant performance first half today - and he doesn't hide when the going gets tough in the second half either!

Good for him bouncing back and being the man of the match in my opinion today. Really pleased with him dominating that right side.

Tincanalley · Sep 27, 2014

NoArroJusBeta said:
How anybody can be proud of this win is beyond me. Holding on for our lifes for an entire second half in our home versus fecking West Ham. Fortunatley enough lucky to get the 3 points because WHU had the equaliser in their hand many times. Never been more relived to see an offside flag. I'am happy with the 3 points but proud of this lot, hell no !

We really aren't any better than relegation fodder.

How on earth are we going to hold on until the winter playing like this ? Team like Chelsea and City will just rip us apart.

My normal reaction to this kind of post would get me barred from the CAF.

Tincanalley · Sep 27, 2014

Jerry Garcia said:
That game had everything today. Great performance from our defense. Rooney let us down with the sending off, but in all honesty I think only 50% of refs see that as a red. Again, once Herrera went off, we look like we lost a bit of control in possession. Having Carrick back will be great for those type of situations.

I'll take the positives away from this game and I think a performance like that will do wonders for our confidence and especially the defense.

I don't think its fair to say Rooney let us down. It was a foul, a card, but marginal, and tactical. Not dirty. He has been playing well, and putting his heart into the effort. Well done Van Persie. Well done all the team. Luke Shaw congrats on a decent debut. Special mention for my MOTM Rafael. Well done especially to Paddy McNair. He looks the business. Yess, come on Man Utd .. it would have been gutting if this turned out to be a draw.

Manucho the boss · Sep 27, 2014

Think we deserved a bit of luck from the officials after last week and we got it from the linesman at the end there.

Don't like to see us wasting time at home but any points are good points the way we are now. Worried that Rooney will take a few games to get back on form and back to his playing weight with his ban and will prob struggle against City on his return.

Falcao looked miserable coming off, not sure if that's a good thing as he was eager to stay on or just not enjoying his lack of goals.

Tincanalley · Sep 27, 2014

In a blinding flash of insight I realise that I am sick of caf, sick of pessimism, sick of likes and being a newbie for four years, regardless of how stupid, all to rare, and non inspiring my comments might be. But well done United today, gutsy and together performance, and well done LVG and the new players and the youth players and the regulars. Played like a team, in shit difficult circumstances. Night all.

Manucho the boss · Sep 27, 2014

Tincanalley said:
I don't think its fair to say Rooney let us down. It was a foul, a card, but marginal, and tactical. Not dirty. He has been playing well, and putting his heart into the effort. Well done Van Persie. Well done all the team. Luke Shaw congrats on a decent debut. Special mention for my MOTM Rafael. Well done especially to Paddy McNair. He looks the business. Yess, come on Man Utd .. it would have been gutting if this turned out to be a draw.

Wut? He got sent off for Violent conduct and will rightly serve a ban. It was idiotic and he'd be getting slaughtered if we'd blown it with 10 men.

Pexbo · Sep 27, 2014

Tincanalley said:
In a blinding flash of insight I realise that I am sick of caf, sick of pessimism, sick of likes and being a newbie for four years, regardless of how stupid, all to rare, and non inspiring my comments might be. But well done United today, gutsy and together performance, and well done LVG and the new players and the youth players and the regulars. Played like a team, in shit difficult circumstances. Night all.

Night mate.

RedTiger · Sep 28, 2014

Pexbo said:
Apparently Eto'o and Luke Shaw went to primary school together.

Considering their age i would say they went to the same primary school, but not together lol

gregor · Sep 28, 2014

Why was line up prediction game closed so early? I tried to submit line up at around 9am and 12:00, but it was already closed. @Damien

moxdevil · Sep 28, 2014

Good win. Had to hold on but did and team spirit and defensive confidence will benefit as a result.

Not convinced that Rooney deserved a red, he didn't kick out but attempted a cynical foul to stop their break which is seen all the time (especially on the continent) and only ever gets a yellow.

Rafael was brilliant defensively after being one of the main attacking threats in the first half. McNair was solid as was Rojo and Shaw.

Red_Manc_M15 · Sep 28, 2014

moxdevil said:
Good win. Had to hold on but did and team spirit and defensive confidence will benefit as a result.

Not convinced that Rooney deserved a red, he didn't kick out but attempted a cynical foul to stop their break which is seen all the time (especially on the continent) and only ever gets a yellow.

Rafael was brilliant defensively after being one of the main attacking threats in the first half. McNair was solid as was Rojo and Shaw.

He sure did mate I right behind it.

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