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    No, Dyche is not better than Amorim. He is going nowhere, Forest will be relegated no doubt.
    Forest will not get relegated, they have a good squad who like Thomas Frank has wanted the chance to manage a top half PL side with ambition and money, Forest have both, Big Ang would have relegated them but now they face pragmatic coach who has something to prove with his boyhood club.

    What we learned today, is that we still concede far too many goals, we’ve conceded 16 pl goals in 10 pl matches only 5 teams currently have conceded more that’s an average of 1.6 goals per game over a 38 game season that’s 60 PL goals. No Man United in the Premier League era has ever conceded that amount of goals, even last season we conceded less at 54 goals which was still diabolical.

    Amorim has no excuses, he has his much coveted 1 match per week and I’m just not seeing enough of improvement, yes we are scoring 1.7 goals per game which is a big improvement on last season but not much on ETH two seasons of 1.5 goals but his defences were not this porous and he played a donut midfield.

    Elliot Anderson. Ran the game today and we found out that he is definitely more than suitable to develop into our CM for next 6 or 7 years, he was light years from what we have in Midfield and with another player like Wharton wound totally transform our squad.

    United need an elite CB like Mark Ghuei, Two high energy midfield players and an elite left wing back. Just to be a consistent top 6 team!
     
    Maguire/Mainoo/Mount?

    Maguire has scored so many winners/equalisers for us

    Mainoo to move Fernandes forward and support Cunha

    Or Mount for his intensity

    Forest are an incredibly physical side, and Mainoo struggled with the physicality of Grimsby, he'd have been overrun. And who did you want him to come on for?

    The other two are substitutions you suggest se to just be for the sake of it, Mount to run around or Maguire (who has a knock and wasn't fully fit) to head the ball a bit.
     
    Forest will not get relegated, they have a good squad who like Thomas Frank has wanted the chance to manage a top half PL side with ambition and money, Forest have both, Big Ang would have relegated them but now they face pragmatic coach who has something to prove with his boyhood club.

    What we learned today, is that we still concede far too many goals, we’ve conceded 16 pl goals in 10 pl matches only 5 teams currently have conceded more that’s an average of 1.6 goals per game over a 38 game season that’s 60 PL goals. No Man United in the Premier League era has ever conceded that amount of goals, even last season we conceded less at 54 goals which was still diabolical.

    Amorim has no excuses, he has his much coveted 1 match per week and I’m just not seeing enough of improvement, yes we are scoring 1.7 goals per game which is a big improvement on last season but not much on ETH two seasons of 1.5 goals but his defences were not this porous and he played a donut midfield.

    Elliot Anderson. Ran the game today and we found out that he is definitely more than suitable to develop into our CM for next 6 or 7 years, he was light years from what we have in Midfield and with another player like Wharton wound totally transform our squad.

    United need an elite CB like Mark Ghuei, Two high energy midfield players and an elite left wing back. Just to be a consistent top 6 team!

    They will get relegated, just wait and see. It has nothing to do with Anj or not, Dych is just shit not pragmatic.

    Every team concede goals, and this season has been let down by individual player errors. Our set piece defending has noticably improved, and the rest will improve with time.

    Amorim has all the excuses, this was not on the manager. The players just switched off, which is on them. There has been pklenty of improvements in many metrics, so you aqre just factually wrong. Nobody cares about your feelings, you are wrong.

    ETH was crap, stop making excuses for him. We were conceding more than 20 shots each match and neither creating or scoring goals.

    Anderson was okay, ran around a lot but did not run any game. Apart from a brief 5 minute period after ht, they did not do much.

    Ofcourse we need players, but that is going to take some time after being filled with dross by the idiot ETH.
     
    Forest are an incredibly physical side, and Mainoo struggled with the physicality of Grimsby, he'd have been overrun. And who did you want him to come on for?

    The other two are substitutions you suggest se to just be for the sake of it, Mount to run around or Maguire (who has a knock and wasn't fully fit) to head the ball a bit.
    Ah so intensity is just run about a bit and Maguire just heads the ball about, as opposed to Sesko who killed every attack today was seemingly only kept on to head the ball a bit too, makes sense... terrible take
     
    Ah so intensity is just run about a bit and Maguire just heads the ball about, as opposed to Sesko who killed every attack today was seemingly only kept on to head the ball a bit too, makes sense... terrible take

    Sesko not playing well but staying on is because we have no depth in forward positions. Unless that's who you wanted an injured Maguire to come on for.

    You still haven't managed to flesh out who you'd bring your subs, one of whom is injured, on for, so you're in no position to throw around criticisms of my takes when yours aren't even fully formed.
     
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    Yeah he’s essentially having the wide men, fullbacks, and CM’s sit in until the ball gets circulated wide. Then they are pressing with all 3 creating an imbalance and leaving Amad and Mbuemo with no chance or way out. It nullifies how this System under Amorim normally builds up as it’s meant to be very flank dependent. Bruno and Casemiro had tons of space in the middle the few times the ball arrived quickly to them but even then they aren’t carriers.
    Cheers. :+1:
     
    Why do we look knackered when we're only playing one game a week?
    We don’t really. We looked absolutely fine against a fired up Forest side until a consistently weak player in Dalot switched off twice. Then you have a team on the up, going for everything and feeling confident against a team dealing with adversity
     
    We don’t really. We looked absolutely fine against a fired up Forest side until a consistently weak player in Dalot switched off twice. Then you have a team on the up, going for everything and feeling confident against a team dealing with adversity
    We didn't transition with pace when the opportunity presented itself in the second half. It was most likely a tactical instruction, but it was frustrating to see us slow it down and allow Forest to get back into position.
     
    Cunha has been really poor
    We had Mount and Zirkzee, on the bench, both of whom can play Cunha position. Why neither of them got a chance to come on is one of those Amorim mysteries
     
    They will get relegated, just wait and see. It has nothing to do with Anj or not, Dych is just shit not pragmatic.

    Every team concede goals, and this season has been let down by individual player errors. Our set piece defending has noticably improved, and the rest will improve with time.

    Amorim has all the excuses, this was not on the manager. The players just switched off, which is on them. There has been pklenty of improvements in many metrics, so you aqre just factually wrong. Nobody cares about your feelings, you are wrong.

    ETH was crap, stop making excuses for him. We were conceding more than 20 shots each match and neither creating or scoring goals.

    Anderson was okay, ran around a lot but did not run any game. Apart from a brief 5 minute period after ht, they did not do much.

    Ofcourse we need players, but that is going to take some time after being filled with dross by the idiot ETH.
    Let me be clear here I couldn’t stand ETH but I’m pointing out the facts, his record is vastly superior to Ruben Amorim’s at the club, he won 2 out of 3 major finals contested and achieved 75 points in his first season, he bought a lot of rubbish and had far too much control, especially with regard to transfers.

    Elliot Anderson is a huge upgrade on our midfield, that’s not up for debate, I don’t know what game you are watching but he definitely took control of that game in the second half. He seems to be a 6/8 hybrid that has an incredible engine to go 90 minutes effortlessly, he’s been outstanding for England im the last two games as well.
     
    We didn’t look that bad in the first half. We looked like we knew how to play football. Second half blitzkrieg just rocked us and we never regained composure. Draw is fair because I thought we were going to lose in stoppage time.
     
    A draw can be a loss when the only thing of any meaningful use is a win. We're getting nothing out of this season if we can't get three points from teams below the relegation line.

    You can say that - but realistically Forest is not a relegation team. You look at their line-up...with Dyche in charge, they will create problems for a lot of teams at home.
     
    You can say that - but realistically Forest is not a relegation team. You look at their line-up...with Dyche in charge, they will create problems for a lot of teams at home.
    Specially with that backline of theirs, we probably would've struggled more if Nuno was still there.
     
    They will get relegated, just wait and see. It has nothing to do with Anj or not, Dych is just shit not pragmatic.

    Every team concede goals, and this season has been let down by individual player errors. Our set piece defending has noticably improved, and the rest will improve with time.

    Amorim has all the excuses, this was not on the manager. The players just switched off, which is on them. There has been pklenty of improvements in many metrics, so you aqre just factually wrong. Nobody cares about your feelings, you are wrong.

    ETH was crap, stop making excuses for him. We were conceding more than 20 shots each match and neither creating or scoring goals.

    Anderson was okay, ran around a lot but did not run any game. Apart from a brief 5 minute period after ht, they did not do much.

    Ofcourse we need players, but that is going to take some time after being filled with dross by the idiot ETH.
    Elliot was ok ?
    Wow
    His stats ;
    100% Tackles won
    15 passes into the final third
    14 ball recoveries
    3 chances created
    3 fouls won
    2 attempted take ons
    2 Successful take ons

    We have to sign Elliot Anderson next season
    He’s without doubt the most creative 6/8 hybrid available that Inited need, it’s him plus either Wharton or Baleba but he’s top of the list!
     
    He's been ok to good. Fantastic is overselling it.

    From Nottingham Wire:

    Elliot Anderson: Impossible to overstate just how important the England international is for the Reds. Got through so much good work and constantly looked to drive the team forward. Back to being on form after looking leggy last weekend. Rating: 8/10
     
    We didn't transition with pace when the opportunity presented itself in the second half. It was most likely a tactical instruction, but it was frustrating to see us slow it down and allow Forest to get back into position.

    Yeah, team looked tired to me too. Especially Dalot but others too. Not sure whats going on. Maybe we have so much time between games that our players are not used to it and loosing fitness.
     
    I wouldn’t have started Sesko to be fair. I’d have started Mount and played Cunha up top. Sesko was very poor up against a top top centre back pairing. Similar to how Amorim played Cunha against Liverpool to win the second ball and not play the game VVD and Konate would want, that’s what we should have done to combat Milenkovic and Murillo.

    I’m referring to the lenty of people were asking for Amad, Cunha and Mbeumo to be subbed off. At one point someone said they weren’t bothering running and compared Amad to Rashford
    Yeah why change something which worked so well against the scousers unless Mount not fit enough
    Forest will not get relegated, they have a good squad who like Thomas Frank has wanted the chance to manage a top half PL side with ambition and money, Forest have both, Big Ang would have relegated them but now they face pragmatic coach who has something to prove with his boyhood club.

    What we learned today, is that we still concede far too many goals, we’ve conceded 16 pl goals in 10 pl matches only 5 teams currently have conceded more that’s an average of 1.6 goals per game over a 38 game season that’s 60 PL goals. No Man United in the Premier League era has ever conceded that amount of goals, even last season we conceded less at 54 goals which was still diabolical.

    Amorim has no excuses, he has his much coveted 1 match per week and I’m just not seeing enough of improvement, yes we are scoring 1.7 goals per game which is a big improvement on last season but not much on ETH two seasons of 1.5 goals but his defences were not this porous and he played a donut midfield.

    Elliot Anderson. Ran the game today and we found out that he is definitely more than suitable to develop into our CM for next 6 or 7 years, he was light years from what we have in Midfield and with another player like Wharton wound totally transform our squad.

    United need an elite CB like Mark Ghuei, Two high energy midfield players and an elite left wing back. Just to be a consistent top 6 team!
    Absolutely nailed what's needed with last paragraph, unfortunately still not big enough budget to sort everything next summer much as I wish it was possible
     
    Forest will not get relegated, they have a good squad who like Thomas Frank has wanted the chance to manage a top half PL side with ambition and money, Forest have both, Big Ang would have relegated them but now they face pragmatic coach who has something to prove with his boyhood club.

    What we learned today, is that we still concede far too many goals, we’ve conceded 16 pl goals in 10 pl matches only 5 teams currently have conceded more that’s an average of 1.6 goals per game over a 38 game season that’s 60 PL goals. No Man United in the Premier League era has ever conceded that amount of goals, even last season we conceded less at 54 goals which was still diabolical.

    Amorim has no excuses, he has his much coveted 1 match per week and I’m just not seeing enough of improvement, yes we are scoring 1.7 goals per game which is a big improvement on last season but not much on ETH two seasons of 1.5 goals but his defences were not this porous and he played a donut midfield.

    Elliot Anderson. Ran the game today and we found out that he is definitely more than suitable to develop into our CM for next 6 or 7 years, he was light years from what we have in Midfield and with another player like Wharton wound totally transform our squad.

    United need an elite CB like Mark Ghuei, Two high energy midfield players and an elite left wing back. Just to be a consistent top 6 team!
    On paper de ligt, yoro, maguire, Martinez (when back fit) shaw, heaven, is not a bad choice for the 3 centre backs.

    For me our wing backs are nowhere near good enough to play in that position. You have to be so good both offensively and defensively. We currently don’t have that in dalot/dorgu. Amad does a job there but he is not a wing back.

    That’s the area of defence we should be focusing on, it would make a massive difference. A top midfield and top wing backs and we’re a totally improved side.
     
    They just grinded at a draw against an Austrian team here. Really 2 points dropped last weekend
     
    They just grinded at a draw against an Austrian team here. Really 2 points dropped last weekend
    They didn’t. They created chances but didn’t make it count. They are going to be like this under Dyche. A few minutes of defensive lapse is what cost us points and there is still a question mark over how we deal will low blocks- we will see but we will definitely need attacking quality on the bench to change some of these games.
     
    They didn’t. They created chances but didn’t make it count. They are going to be like this under Dyche. A few minutes of defensive lapse is what cost us points and there is still a question mark over how we deal will low blocks- we will see but we will definitely need attacking quality on the bench to change some of these games.
    We had that with Mount. Very surprised he didn’t get brought on. He would have helped stretch there defence and move them out of shape.
     
    We had that with Mount. Very surprised he didn’t get brought on. He would have helped stretch there defence and move them out of shape.
    I don’t think mount is as good as stretching defenses as sesko. He is good when you play against bigger teams that try to over crowd and overrun our midfield to get to our defenses but not as much as with the low blocks. But I agree adding mount could have helped since sesko was having a bad game and he may have scored one of the chances sesko missed but it is all hypothetical. We need quality in attack on the bench and you can clearly see the drop in quality as soon as we play options from the bench with the likes of zirkzee, Mainoo and ugarte.
     
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  • 23% Nottingham Forest 1:2 Man Utd
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  • 7% Nottingham Forest 0:3 Man Utd
  • 6% Nottingham Forest 0:1 Man Utd
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  • 1% Nottingham Forest 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 0:0 Man Utd
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