Real Madrid 2:1 Manchester United

DocRockter · Aug 3, 2017

Probably not wise to put a player with no pre-season behind him against Kroos,Modric etc... Let Herrera, Fellaini Pogba handle them and put Pereira in to make them chase in the 2nd.

Niall · Aug 4, 2017

CM10 said:
@Niall can you add Andreas to the line-up predictor game please?

Oops

Done.

Web of Bissaka · Aug 4, 2017

JarleA said:
Darmian and Blind don't compliment eachother. At all.

Played well together, good combination in both defending and attacking from our left back side last game against Sampdoria. Just one game so far though.

Defensively, both players cover each other. Darmian always provides good covering as Blind love to press and tackle hard. Darmian can run up-and-down the left wing all game long with Blind provides the playmaking passes from the back which Darmian lacks. With Blind at LCB he can utilize his trademark long passes. Darmian offers constant immediate width on the left wing with his overlapping runs, and can quickly fall back to help defence with his big stamina and pace, which Blind couldn't. Both also mark opponents well. There is that one occasion last game where Blind interchange position with Darmian, delivering that one good deep cross.

In theory, their combo in 3-at-the-back formation can work splendidly. One game to prove it so far.

Ecstatic · Aug 4, 2017

It will be interesting. I will try to watch it if available on French bein sports

Red Pavan · Aug 4, 2017

2-2. Madrid to lose on penalties

NYAS · Aug 5, 2017

What's Jose's career record in Super Cups? Including domestic ones.

@Damien

Catt · Aug 5, 2017

We got this. 2-1 Utd.

Damien · Aug 5, 2017

NYAS said:
What's Jose's career record in Super Cups? Including domestic ones.

@Damien

Managed one, lost one in the UEFA Super Cup.

2003: Milan 1:0 Porto

As for domestic, I'll come back to you later.

roonster09 · Aug 5, 2017

Damien said:
Managed one, lost one in the UEFA Super Cup.

2003: Milan 1:0 Porto

As for domestic, I'll come back to you later.

Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.

Also,

You have never won the UEFA Super Cup as a coach. What would it mean to win it now?

Mourinho: Every time I've contested the UEFA Super Cup, it was as the Europa League winners. When I won the Champions League with Porto, I left Porto. When I won the Champions League with Inter, I left Inter. So I've never contested the UEFA Super Cup as the strongest team. It's the same story this time: I'm taking Manchester United to play against Real Madrid, the Champions League winners. Hopefully this time we can do it.

NYAS · Aug 5, 2017

Damien said:
Managed one, lost one in the UEFA Super Cup.

2003: Milan 1:0 Porto

As for domestic, I'll come back to you later.

Actually just did the research myself, no worries! Thanks.

He has lost 7 Super Cups :nervous:

2 European Super Cups
One Italian Super Cup
One Spanish Super Cup
3 Community Shields

Classical Mechanic · Aug 5, 2017

My word this is going to be a bloodbath. Ronnie & co won't know what hit them!

roonster09 · Aug 5, 2017

NYAS said:
Actually just did the research myself, no worries! Thanks.

He has lost 7 Super Cups

2 European Super Cups
One Italian Super Cup
One Spanish Super Cup
3 Community Shields

2 European super cups. 1 with Porto and 1 with Chelsea.

Damien · Aug 5, 2017

NYAS said:
What's Jose's career record in Super Cups? Including domestic ones.

@Damien

Domestic:

2003: Porto 1:0 Uniao de Leiria
2005: Arsenal 1:2 Chelsea
2006: Liverpool 2:1 Chelsea
2007: Chelsea 1:1 Manchester United (0:3 p)
2008: Inter 2:2 Roma (6:5 p)
2009: Inter 1:2 Lazio
2011 (agg): Barcelona 5:4 Real Madrid
2012 (agg): Barcelona 4:4 Real Madrid (Madrid win on away goals)
2015: Arsenal 1:0 Chelsea
2016: Manchester United 2:1 Leicester City

I know you worked it out for yourself but thought I'd post the results for those interested.

roonster09 said:
Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.

Also,

Ah yeah, forgot about that.

Jaybomb · Aug 5, 2017

Is Ronaldo playing?

peridigm · Aug 5, 2017

What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.

Globule · Aug 5, 2017

peridigm said:
What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.

According to Wiki:

European Cup/Champions League - 23 wins
UEFA Cup/Europa League - 20 wins

Edit: also, UL???

Invictus · Aug 5, 2017

peridigm said:
What is the record for UL vs CL in the SC? Not that it matters, just curious.

Champions League: 10
UEFA Cup + Europa League: 7

* Pre-2000 = Cup Winners' Cup vs Champions League or European Cup.

peridigm · Aug 5, 2017

Globule said:
According to Wiki:

European Cup/Champions League - 23 wins
UEFA Cup/Europa League - 20 wins

Edit: also, UL???

Meh UEFA League Ueropa League
Potato Patato

Edit: my fecking fingers won't spell Europa correctly.

Ramshock · Aug 5, 2017

Will Ronnie be playing? If so we will get twatted if not then im going for penos

MullerUtd · Aug 5, 2017

Jaybomb said:
Is Ronaldo playing?

Is he even playing though?

By the way, is this fixture counted as a competitive match? I think we can win this, Jose Mourinho is the best manager in a one-off cup final although this could be his sternest test as Real Madrid is clearly a much better team than us and they seem to have won every final they've been in recent years, esp under Zidane.

LoneStar · Aug 5, 2017

I'm hoping for a Mourinho masterclass. 2-1 to us. Lukaku and Mikhi to score. The only question is whether we play Matic in the starting 11.

PoTMS · Aug 5, 2017

If we win this, we've officially done the treble. If we lose, oh well, just a glorified friendly.

GM K · Aug 5, 2017

roonster09 said:
Think he lost against Bayern too. He played with Chelsea (as Europa winners) and lost against Bayern.

Also,

And it was that game that marked the beginning of the end of Lukaku's relationship with Jose at Chelsea. He lost the all important penalty and never got over it.

Are we about to see the flip side of that incidence tomorrow? I.e Lukaku scores and wins it for United to mark a new relationship with Jose at United.

paulscholes18 · Aug 6, 2017

DDG
Lindelof Smalling Blind
Matic
Valencia Herrera Pogba Darmian
Mkhitaryan
Lukaku

Z_Wolf · Aug 6, 2017

Jaybomb said:
Is Ronaldo playing?

Probably not, returned to training yesterday.

Edit: had a look on MARCA, he won't be back for this.

minoo-utd · Aug 6, 2017

I think if Ronaldo playing he won't be that ready as he missed all their pre season games.

Dante · Aug 6, 2017

PoTMS said:
If we win this, we've officially done the treble. If we lose, oh well, just a glorified friendly.

According to Mourinho, we won 2.5 trophies last season. Assuming this is another half a trophy, I think you could just about call it a treble.

JoaquinJoaquin · Aug 6, 2017

Team I think he will play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku

Team I would play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Mkhi
Rashford
Lukaku

Android1974 · Aug 6, 2017

JoaquinJoaquin said:
Team I think he will play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku

Team I would play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Mkhi
Rashford
Lukaku

Lukaku and Rashford both starting now against Real Madrid for a trophy might be a stretch. Although I sure hope Mourinho could be that brave.

ivaldo · Aug 6, 2017

JoaquinJoaquin said:
Team I think he will play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku

Team I would play:
De Gea
Darmian
Valencia
Smalling
Lindelof
Matic
Pogba
Herrera
Mkhi
Rashford
Lukaku

Soo Mkhi instead of Lingard then...

TwoSheds · Aug 6, 2017

Martial will start. Think the right side is between Mkhi and Rashford, most likely with Mkhi getting the nod. Would love Matic to start and play at least 60 minutes so he's more or less ready to go at the start of the season too.

IrishRedDevil · Aug 6, 2017

The biggest question is 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. I've went with 4-3-3;

........................de Gea
Valencia .. Lindelof .. Smalling .. Darmian
..........................Matic
...............Herrera ...... Pogba
Mkhitaryan .......................... Martial
.........................Lukaku

Bailly in for Smalling and I think this is how we will line up v West Ham.

TwoSheds · Aug 6, 2017

Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?

Silas · Aug 6, 2017

TwoSheds said:
Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?

We played it in our last game. Mhiki and Lukaku up top, Pogba, Pereira and Matic in the middle, Darmian and Valencia on the wings and Blind, Lindelöf and Smalling (I think) in defence.

TwoSheds · Aug 6, 2017

SS said:
We played it in our last game. Mhiki and Lukaku up top, Pogba, Pereira and Matic in the middle, Darmian and Valencia on the wings and Blind, Lindelöf and Smalling (I think) in defence.

Ok fair enough. Didn't work that well then!

MemphisDepay · Aug 6, 2017

Don't know why this isn't on ITV or something. Not that I'm complaining, I have BT anyway.

GM K · Aug 6, 2017

Doesn't it feel great to be back in games like this? You only play them when you win in Europe. I hope we'll be back in it more regularly in the coming years. Preferably as Champions League winners of course.

Nik70 · Aug 6, 2017

TwoSheds said:
Why does everyone seem to think it will be 352 btw? We haven't played that once in preseason have we?

Yes we have. First pre-season game for both halves. Second half of the game against Valerenga too...

Dave46 · Aug 6, 2017

TwoSheds said:
Ok fair enough. Didn't work that well then!

It did work well.

AlecHDR · Aug 6, 2017

I don't think our team is quite ready yet and Madrid have game changers who can seal things for them. I also don't like our lack of options at CB.

Hoping for a close game but ultimately I'll be very surprised if we win this.

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