West Ham United 1:3 Manchester United

48 hours · Dec 5, 2020

They might as well laugh at our zonal marking in that analysis

Heinzesight · Dec 5, 2020

I knew we are capable of the odd shitty performance but that was a new low.

Anustart89 · Dec 5, 2020

christinaa said:
No matter what the final score is we need :
a DOF;
a new manager;
a couple of class Bruno players

Haven't you read the forum?

We need: New CEO. New board. New players (minimum £400m). New stadium. Fans back in stadium to pull the ball into the back of the net.
Manager's okay though, he can stay.

arnie_ni · Dec 5, 2020

manunited1919 said:
Switch the positions of VDB and Pogba and we won't look as disjointed. But Ole can't see this, can he?

I'd have done it as well. Get dvb on the ball a bit and he will inject pace

Teja · Dec 5, 2020

Imagine blaming Fred for the red and not bringing him here. Really poor by ole.

saivet · Dec 5, 2020

Pogba getting a lot of stick but McT has been giving the ball away more and VDB has been a passenger. Pogba hasn't played well but he's not the worst out our midfield trio.

The biggest problem is we haven't had any play well at all in that first half.

paulscholes18 · Dec 5, 2020

Hope he makes a HT sub again for me it’s Bruno for Martial

VorZakone · Dec 5, 2020

horsechoker said:
Put the Bruno signal in the sky, tell him to fire up the Brunomobile.

No Love · Dec 5, 2020

Pogba is taking the hit from a lot in here, but they’ve all been diabolical.

Drainy · Dec 5, 2020

Berbaclass said:
Why is Ole still attempting to play Pogba in a double pivot? Has he ever done it successfully in his career at any point?

The 2018 World Cup?

Dinghy · Dec 5, 2020

Telles has been crap.

Pogba doesn't want to play in a deep position and doesn't give a feck, no point playing him.

McTominay can't pass, Matic is way better in the holding position in games like these.

Greenwood is not a wc-talent. Too slow and can't do anything without any service.

We're missing Fred's energy in midfield.

Camera angle is fecking annoying.

Gordon S · Dec 5, 2020

Worst first half of the season, or tied with the game vs Spurs.
I get the feeling these important games in CL takes focus and energy from PL games. Feels like the players have one eye on tuesdays game.

We need to change our setup completely for second half now and wake the feck up, they were just cruising through our team first half.

UmbroDays · Dec 5, 2020

Jeppers7 said:
How is Pogba getting the blame here ? He’s been the only decent player.

He's the bad guy on the whole forum, it's kinda tiring to keep hearing it over and over in these threads

mu4c_20le · Dec 5, 2020

VP89 said:
Evra is so annoying with a narrative on the HT show. He has it in again VDB even when him and Pogba are equally shit, he wants to go out and say Rice is dominating VDB and glosses over Pogba completely.

Just like how the caf has it in for Pogba, even though he and vdb are equally shit? :lol:

Salus Populi Suprema Lex · Dec 5, 2020

I love Ole as much as any United fan, but I can't take this much longer. I'm sick of being outplayed by average sides. I really, really, want him to succeed, but I fear he is treading water and it's just a matter of time until he leaves. We need consistency now.

glazed · Dec 5, 2020

Born2Lose said:
Here's the problem, one of them gets paid £300k a week, the other doesn't.

Pogba is certainly looking like a sell for me.

12OunceEpilogue · Dec 5, 2020

That was dreadful. We're getting played off the park by a well-drilled West Ham, we can't resist their press so are either playing it sideways or losing it trying to progress it. The passing has been all over the place and the movement nonexistent, apart from an isolated Cavani. They look dangerous every time we turn it over, with Telles and AWB shaky in wide areas (though the former recovered well a couple of times).

We conceded again from a set piece to the near post but West Ham are no opportunists, they thoroughly deserve to be ahead against this fecking shower of a team.

Berbaclass · Dec 5, 2020

Look at fecking Pogba and Telles stood looking at each other wanting to blame one another for the goal :rolleyes:

DomesticTadpole · Dec 5, 2020

You wonder how much has been, it's David Moyes he's useless and it's Spurs lads don't worry about them.

Superden · Dec 5, 2020

How the hell can you switch off at a corner...its literally a few seconds of action from a dead ball.

drunkmonkmeth · Dec 5, 2020

One Night Only said:
I couldn't see Klopp or pep getting anything out of players like martial and pogba, theyre the type of people who think they deserve everything while they sit about and do nothing. It's like playing with 9 men. And then we have our centre backs who don't have a clue where they are supposed to be.

i think klop could get results form pogba but both pep and klop wouldnt play martial in a cup game

MalcolmTucker · Dec 5, 2020

manunited1919 said:
Switch the positions of VDB and Pogba and we won't look as disjointed. But Ole can't see this, can he?

Agreed.

FrankDrebin · Dec 5, 2020

I would give the whole first have performance and players a 4 out of 10.

christinaa · Dec 5, 2020

Pogba should ALWAYS play further up the pitch - Ole please note.

Kuba · Dec 5, 2020

What is VDB doing?

I mean he is Good at 1 touch passing but he is not making us any better going forward with it. As a 8 he can help moving the ball but as 10 he is useless. He is not creating anything just waiting for a pass nad moving around but that is Cavani's duty. Its not working for me I don't see anything worth 40 mil.

OrcaFat · Dec 5, 2020

MattofManchester said:
If I remember from Shaw days, the back post is guarded by the Left Back, which is Telles, who didn't track. Pogba would stay more middle for his height.

Out of all the poor players on the pitch, can we stop with the agendas, given there is worse at the moment. He's going to lose the ball, he's not a fecking DM as he seems to keep being shoehorned into.
McTominay and Pogba are being absolutely overrun centrally and there's no support. Fecking Van De Beek keeps going wondering and it seems all three of our forwards are trying to run in behind or standing stock still.

Pogba has been particularly bad. Not sure what the rest of your post is on about really.

Sara125 · Dec 5, 2020

White shoes with a dark suit :nono:

Maureen-yo · Dec 5, 2020

mu4c_20le said:
Not a word about van de beek

Van De Beek has been utterly awful but yet the focus is on Pogba even though he's actually kept things ticking over reasonably well.

Ranchero · Dec 5, 2020

Interesting that Evra won't criticise his mate Pogba. When it is so glaringly obvious that he has been abject.

UDontMessWith24 · Dec 5, 2020

The entire side is lethargic, unfocused, disjointed, everyone doing their own thing. But...Pogba. Some of you would enjoy football a lot more if you actually understood it.

Tony247 · Dec 5, 2020

This is literally one man team

LuisNaniencia · Dec 5, 2020

What in the name of Holy shit was that.

MrBest · Dec 5, 2020

Heinzesight said:
I knew we are capable of the odd shitty performance but that was a new low.

Odd? We have been shirty since the last two games of last season, bar RB and Paris.

BarstoolProphet · Dec 5, 2020

Feel like saying this is the worst we have played all year but at the same time it feels like this is our level now.

Giggs' right foot · Dec 5, 2020

Pogba and Martial have the french arrogance of an Henry and Zidane, but play like Chamakh and Schneiderlin. Starting to despise watching them play for this team.

DrRodo · Dec 5, 2020

a few 2-3/10 performers over there, but yea the majority of the caf slating Pogba who has been around a 5/10, by far not the worst of our lot... come on guys

John Keiler · Dec 5, 2020

Green_Red said:
Yea but why not find a positive like we've gone behind on the road every away game but have still come back to win. Why not point out West Ham are playing well, not point out United are playing badly. Hes a negatron, bet he posts on here daily.

Someone should remind him he was average at best in his career but got lucky and was carried by some world class players. Never seen him make a world class performance. Might bring his ego back down to where it belongs.

He has 30 first class winners medals and played under the most demanding manager ever, a lot of it as captain.

I presume you see your FIFA 2010 winners medal as the same level?

VP89 · Dec 5, 2020

mu4c_20le said:
Just like how the caf has it in for Pogba, even though he and vdb are equally shit?

What are you on about? VDB and Pogba are equally shit today, but Pogba has been consistently shit all season.

Terminator · Dec 5, 2020

Lucky to be only one behind.

UncleBob · Dec 5, 2020

VP89 said:
Evra is so annoying with a narrative on the HT show. He has it in again VDB even when him and Pogba are equally shit, he wants to go out and say Rice is dominating VDB and glosses over Pogba completely.

Ehm, no.

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