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…or the FA Cup, which is an actual trophy

That’s most seasons. You can drop around 42 points to get into the CL. In the 2004 Liverpool dropped 54 points and still got top 4.

I think this weekend’s games and results indicate high levels of entertainment. Granted, the showpiece game has been a disappointment. Yet, three weeks ago Liverpool v City was widely regarded as being very enthralling.

More a consequence of a relatively equitable financial picture. Investment in clubs was minimal. Coaching, intelligent recruitment and facilities probably separated the good from the bad.

For Ten Hag, neither game is bigger. He’s operating in an extremely pressurised environment with his job in jeopardy. Both vital and he may well regard Chelsea as being a very good opportunity to get all three points.

Yep. Both benefiting from not being in the CL but both good enough

I think it’s fair comment. However, EL is doing Liverpool favours this season. They’re obviously good enough to be in the CL - unlike the two who came last in their groups. Both out of their depth in terms of the preparedness for the season...

Liverpool would possibly be in the CL quarters had they not screwed up last season. The EL has been a nice way of getting rhythm and confidence into squad players.

Two sides good enough for the CL final rounds. The rest are a mixture of decent to poor.

Flat track bullies are an essential ingredient to do well. Most games are against such sides. Liverpool have Salah as well, who has great numbers against top sides. Nunez is doing great in a side full of goals so isn’t operating with high...

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I do rate him.

I agree, but hasn’t shown it in the league to the extent that Nunez has. At the moment, Nunez is probably a better forward.

Fulham beat Arsenal; Wolves beat City; Palace drew to City. No reason that can't happen again.

£65m is about right I’d say. If the add-ons come - up to £85m I think - then it means Liverpool have been successful so it works itself out. I wouldn’t call it insane when you take into account Chelsea and United’s outlays on poor footballers...