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Ljajic Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
This was up there with Mikel and Bebe on the strange scale. The whole episode was so odd.
Think its even stranger than the Bebe deal since we spent the same money on signing him instead not too long either...
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I can't remember where I read it but didn't we use the work permit issue as a bit of an excuse because it turned out he was a petulant little shite? We could have easily appealed on terms of exceptional talent or whatever it is called but chose not to because we weren't impressed with his attitude.
Yeah that was one of many reasons given and when you see him abusing his own coach and his coach (shamefully) attacking him then you get the idea that there may be some truth in that.
But as far as i'm concerned that transfer or non transfer is nowhere near as odd as Bebe's.
But as far as i'm concerned that transfer or non transfer is nowhere near as odd as Bebe's.
We had him under contract because we were paying his wages. He was coming on to train with our first team and the manager was bigging him up as one of the top talents in the world. You would think we'd have quit that if he was showing attitude problems, but a month before we paid to opt out of taking him, we were still talking him up. Maybe there was something big that he did during that month that meant the club didnt want anything to do with him... Thats all that can really explain it.
As for what happened at Fiorentina, if it was Ljajic's fault they'd obviously have got rid of him as well as the manager, or instead of the manager. Instead they were trying to make him their main player after Jovetic last season.
As for what happened at Fiorentina, if it was Ljajic's fault they'd obviously have got rid of him as well as the manager, or instead of the manager. Instead they were trying to make him their main player after Jovetic last season.
He allegedly called his manager Delio Rossi "you're more stupid than your." Rossi's son has Downs Syndrome.
Some cuntiness in sports can be excused, the players are competitive and there is a lot of emotions. Ljajic's actions are inexcusable.
He'd have been sacked for that
I think on both occasions you are underestimating how costly it can be for a club to sack a player especially a young promising one who the signed for over £5m and who could one day (and that day is just around the corner) go for more than £10m. A club of Fiorentina's size can't really afford to be doing business like that. Far likely they would fine the player which I'm not really sure they didn't.
Far easier to sack a coach - who whatever was said should have conducted himself better - especially as the team weren't doing well during that spell.
It'd be even more costly to sack your manager, have the bad PR of doing so after a player insulted his son with special needs and having to sign up a new manager who the club didnt think was as good, hence Rossi was their manager.
Ljajic obviously said something to piss him off, but how can you explain Fiorentina sacking the manager, backing the player and making him important to their team and now fighting to keep him, if he goes around insulting manager's special needs children
Ljajic obviously said something to piss him off, but how can you explain Fiorentina sacking the manager, backing the player and making him important to their team and now fighting to keep him, if he goes around insulting manager's special needs children
What a tosser, if true.
The rumor that he insulted the player son is already out there(I have my doubts whether it is true) however in an age when it is easy for football clubs to gag managers upon sacking them its not beyond the realms of possibility that their decision was taken with the clubs league performance in mind and the manager was made to sign a gagging clause (if there wasn't one already there) forbidding him to discuss the ins and outs. This also would not be the first time a club has sacked a decent manager who was having a bad spell and replaced him with an inferior one. Managers have and always will be held to a far higher moral standard than the players under their control.
You are making a hell of an assumption here if you are assuming that clubs always behave in a morally correct way when it comes to their players behaving inappropriately. Luis Suarez is still in a job despite racially abusing a player and was for a time fully backed by that club even after a guilty verdict. He is also constantly diving and has bitten a player for which he is still serving a ban. In fact not only is he still in a job he is also wanted by one of the supposed moral guardians of the game Arsene Wenger; a manager who has previously spoken out against racial abuse. Why? because he is hugely talented.
John Terry is still in a job despite being found guilty by the FA of using racially offensive language. Marlon King and Joey Barton have both never been short of clubs who will put up with their shitty behavior. Ian Wright was never sacked by Arsenal despite abusing a linesman with deformed arms.
Talent makes its own excuses for its mistakes and those around it very rarely challenge those excuses.
Sorry thats nonsense, they'd have kicked Ljajic out at first chance especially if a club was willing to pay for him. If he's a trouble maker they'd want rid of him so he doesnt ruin the next manager. Instead the opposite has happened, they kicked out the manager, made Ljajic a starter up front with Jovetic and are fighting to keep him from signing from Milan
I've looked this up. It seems Rossi said after the incident that Ljajic had insulted his family, without clarifying how, which may have led to wild speculation and rumour-mongering. Later he told La Repubblica that he snapped after Ljajic played the old "your mother" card. He doesn't seem to have a disabled son either.
Yeah, that's bollocks. Rossi lost it, and deserved to be sacked.
So yeah, disrespectful from Ljajic to his manager but not so much that he'd be kicked out of the club. Makes a lot more sense
I read it on a forum, it turns out I am wrong.
It still makes sense that we didn't go after him. We do personality/background checks on player, right?
Of course, but it must have been something specific during that last month we held the agreement because we were still talking him up as a world beater. If we had a hint that he could be a bad egg we'd obviously not be talking about him just in case we decided not to go for him
He is not a bad little player, but lets be honest I do not think he would have made the grade here anyway.
He has played consistent first team football at Fiorentina, and is only just good enough now to leave for a top club - he would not have got that here.
I think he/we made the correct move for his career, but fair play to the kid for taking his chance.
He has played consistent first team football at Fiorentina, and is only just good enough now to leave for a top club - he would not have got that here.
I think he/we made the correct move for his career, but fair play to the kid for taking his chance.
He's still 21 and he had an outstanding season last year. I think the Rossi incident was the catalyst for that. It was a case of stop being a kid and mature, and under Montella last season he is a totally different player than previously. How much of that is down to him maturing and a coaches influence? Hard to tell, little bit of both probably, but one thing for sure is that the football played at Fiorentina last year was so much better than with Rossi or with Mihajlovic and Ljajic was one of the key components.
Ever since I watched him play at youth level, I always thought he needed to command games otherwise he would just be a fringe player with potential.
I think it's way too premature to suggest he wouldn't be good enough for United either. Based on last seasons form, he would have been thats for sure. Though lets see what he can produce this season. If he stays at Fiorentina the onus will be on him to produce given Jovetic's departure. I think he is Milan bound, and if he does go there he will have more pressure to succeed than with Fiorentina, but at the same time I'm not sure how much of a step up it is. Fiorentina played some great football last year, and Montella looks to be a top young coach. Going to Milan could ruin him, like so many players before him.
Ever since I watched him play at youth level, I always thought he needed to command games otherwise he would just be a fringe player with potential.
I think it's way too premature to suggest he wouldn't be good enough for United either. Based on last seasons form, he would have been thats for sure. Though lets see what he can produce this season. If he stays at Fiorentina the onus will be on him to produce given Jovetic's departure. I think he is Milan bound, and if he does go there he will have more pressure to succeed than with Fiorentina, but at the same time I'm not sure how much of a step up it is. Fiorentina played some great football last year, and Montella looks to be a top young coach. Going to Milan could ruin him, like so many players before him.
Delio Rossi doesn't have a disabled son though
I remember being gutted that we missed out on him. Moyesy sign him up!
Yes, as was established it was a lie. A rumour started by someone, somewhere, and of course some United fans were keen for it to be true
That was my point though, at Man Utd he would not have got the football here to improve to this point - a few games here or there and matches in the reserves would not have helped him like playing first team football in Seria A.
Sure in the future he might be good enough to come back and play at the top, but that's only after he has been allowed to develop elsewhere.
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