I would too but I'd keep a majority at first at least. You need that experience and expertise at the club. He could bring in some of his own men as well. Now we have all of Moyes men and none of SAF's and we're suffering.
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I would too but I'd keep a majority at first at least. You need that experience and expertise at the club. He could bring in some of his own men as well. Now we have all of Moyes men and none of SAF's and we're suffering.
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And thats the sole reason we bought Fellaini. Nobody sane would sing him on football reasons only.I can understand why Moyes would want his own guys. If it was me I'd have been paranoid that the likes of Phelan, Rene etc might have been talking behind my back to the players about me if things were going wrong.
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I have no idea what difference it would've made to retain the services of, say, Mike Phelan - to be perfectly honest. I'm simply not qualified to comment on his qualities versus those of Phil Neville or Lumsden. But we can at least conclude, thus far, that losing Steele doesn't seem to have made DDG a worse keeper.
There's also the fact that United is a club steeped in - call it what you will - culture: Fergie is upstairs - Moyes hasn't gone and replaced him with Howard Kendall.
There's also the fact that United is a club steeped in - call it what you will - culture: Fergie is upstairs - Moyes hasn't gone and replaced him with Howard Kendall.
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Decided to look for Pexbo's Gill quote and I stumbled upon this: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/feb/20/manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson-retire
why was anyone (me included) at all surprised we appointed Moyes?!
why was anyone (me included) at all surprised we appointed Moyes?!
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Was this the article http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/17/manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson or were the quotes you're on about more specific? There's a bit in there about the coaches etc.Another quote from anywhere between 2 and 5 years ago. I think it was Gill talking about how Fergie has delegated to the point where he has someone working on each and every aspect of the game. Tactics, coaching, fitness ect. They felt it would soften the blow of him leaving as they would all carry on as if he was still there and the new manager would be eased in and utilise the massive experience they have between them.
Not the case. Probably 100 years of football experience walked out the door when Moyes came in. On top of that, coaches that new how the squad worked together, how much you could get out of each player, who could be trusted to do what role.
That's where I think Maureen would have been better. He'd have had the ego, gravitas and confidence to come in and work with Fergie's men. Moyes, I think, would have been very worried about feeling undermind or out of his depth. Hence: his own men. The only "United" men he had are all very inexperienced. From an amateur psychology view point that tells me he was very anxious about his own experience and his need to be top dog.
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Of course we can win it. It would be worse if he said we couldnt. Its a cup competition. Any fecker can win those!Round said in his interview he thinks we are good enough to win the CL. Round the twist comes to mind.
Look at Jimmy Traore ffs
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It would be brilliant if we won the CL finishing outside the top 4 while Liverpool finished 4th.
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They would still qualify.It would be brilliant if we won the CL finishing outside the top 4 while Liverpool finished 4th.
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Spurs didn't qualify when Chelsea won or have they changed the rules?They would still qualify.
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Yeh ignore me. Getting things back to front not for the first time!Spurs didn't qualify when Chelsea won or have they changed the rules?
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They changed the rules but it only comes into effect at the end of next season.
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Should have kept Phelan, who, as every United fan knows (just look at the Phelan thread), has done tremendous job... eh? So now the new assistant is apparently shit as well, because someone said so.
Losing the manager was the big one. I honestly think anything else is minor. Changing the goalkeeping coach hardly made a difference. Phelan was the scapegoat for many fans and I doubt keeping Muelenstein would have made a clear difference. Heck, the staff Fergie had and got his trust to work with the team on a daily basis didn't exactly get us to play great football.
Losing the manager was the big one. I honestly think anything else is minor. Changing the goalkeeping coach hardly made a difference. Phelan was the scapegoat for many fans and I doubt keeping Muelenstein would have made a clear difference. Heck, the staff Fergie had and got his trust to work with the team on a daily basis didn't exactly get us to play great football.
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Don't worry... we'll have FA Cup winners in there soon, and then it'll get more complicated!Yeh ignore me. Getting things back to front not for the first time!