Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
Anyone notice how fat he looks?
31
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 31
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
- 4
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
- Status
I did, really unprofessional for players to let themselves go injured or not.
Ran Mata right to the wire for being the most useless player on the field. Instead of pointing today, he went at sat at CB.
And yeah, he's mega fat. And grey. Grey fatty.
And yeah, he's mega fat. And grey. Grey fatty.
So what? The youngsters in the dressing room are enthralled with his presence and leadership skills. Learning lessons in professionalism from him.
Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger.
Last edited:
Unbelievable how bad his condition is, I'd be embarrassed as a manager to let him enter the field so overweight.
Rojo is carrying weight as well, it's as if they have just had three months of eating an partying.
Let's be honest the transfer has been a disaster.
All things considered it was worth the risk so I'm not mad at the club for taking him on but he looks done at this level
There's a slight chance that under a new manager he could perform a specific role with the right players around him but it'll be 1 game in 3 at best and thats only if he can stay fit however you'd have to say there's as much chance of him moving on as there is that happening
All things considered it was worth the risk so I'm not mad at the club for taking him on but he looks done at this level
There's a slight chance that under a new manager he could perform a specific role with the right players around him but it'll be 1 game in 3 at best and thats only if he can stay fit however you'd have to say there's as much chance of him moving on as there is that happening
The guy has won everything there is to win with Bayern and Germany. He is on a holiday here, and by gosh, from the looks of it, he is having a ball.
In sport, I have only seen some cricketers take field this unfit, never a footballer at a top club. It's disgraceful.
The first thing I said when I saw him coming on was how out of shape he looked.
When he retires he's gonna balloon!
When he retires he's gonna balloon!
So what? The youngsters in the dressing room are enthralled with his presence and leadership skills. Learning lessons in professionalism from him.
Bastian fecking Schweinsteiger.
Choosing him over Gündoğan and still ending up with the fat, injury prone German. I really do hate this season.
Last edited:
The guy clearly isn't having an issue with submersing himself in English culture.
The condition he is in is absolutely disgraceful.
How he can call himself an "athlete" is beyond me.
It's looking more obvious by the week that he is treating Old Trafford like a bloody retirement home, like others do LA Galaxy and other US Clubs. Absolutely discusting that he can come to the biggest club in the world and not take his fitness seriously.
He's gone from one of the best midfielders on the planet to a lazy fat bastard and he gets away with it because he has a flawless track record.
If I was manager I'd have him and Rojo doing laps around Manchester after every training session and have them on a strict diet with a salary cut.
The condition he is in is absolutely disgraceful.
How he can call himself an "athlete" is beyond me.
It's looking more obvious by the week that he is treating Old Trafford like a bloody retirement home, like others do LA Galaxy and other US Clubs. Absolutely discusting that he can come to the biggest club in the world and not take his fitness seriously.
He's gone from one of the best midfielders on the planet to a lazy fat bastard and he gets away with it because he has a flawless track record.
If I was manager I'd have him and Rojo doing laps around Manchester after every training session and have them on a strict diet with a salary cut.
Last edited:
Bastian Schweinsteiger is a metaphor for how far Manchester United have fallen
The entrancing red lights of Old Trafford continue to display greatness, indicating it remains a theatre of dreams and yet on nights like these, it is reduced to an old creaking stage by the presence of fading stars and those too green yet to meet the enormity of the surroundings.
Concealed behind the imaginary curtain that separates pitch from technical area sat Bastian Schweinsteiger, the legendary midfielder who may have only been a substitute, but is someone nevertheless that represents a curious metaphor for Manchester United’s problems.
Less than two years ago, he was arguably Germany’s most influential player in a victorious World Cup campaign. Months before, his previous European knockout game on this ground came for Bayern Munich in the Champions League and his dynamism was an outstanding feature of the encounter, enabling him to score the Bavarians’ away goal. He was later sent off in a 1-1 draw.
Schweinsteiger’s subsequent decline since has been spectacular and now, judging by his weight, he is paid in Eccles cakes. Although the United executive vice-chairman, Ed Woodward, was keen to advertise shirt sale figures with Kitbag when it was revealed he had supposedly risen from 33rd to the fourth most popular player on the planet by moving to United, it has proven to be Bayern who were wisest to what was happening with their icon.
In sporting terms, the ruthlessness of Bayern and the misguidedness of United illustrate the difference between the clubs and how far one of them has fallen. Sir Alex Ferguson used to be able to sniff a player’s deterioration not by what he could no longer do going forward but by his inability to track back and regain a defensive position before damage was done. Mike Phelan, Ferguson’s assistant, remembers the day Roy Keane’s time as United’s captain was terminated when Ferguson leaned over to him during a training session after Keane surrendered possession, whispering, “He’s finished, Mike.” With that, Keane was gone.
Paddy Crerand, the 1968 European Cup winner, told United Review that Schweinsteiger had “changed the game in our favour” after his introduction in Sunday’s FA Cup draw with West Ham United, and yet Michael Carrick was still considered a better option than him from the start here, even though his contract is up in the summer.
Schweinsteiger’s struggles at United are not isolated. There is a wider recruitment issue. Had Morgan Schneiderlin or Memphis Depay been capable of justifying their huge fees by demonstrating any amount of inspiration, Schweinsteiger’s demise may have lay concealed for longer. It was significant that Schneiderlin and Depay were perched beside Schweinsteiger on the bench and so was Matteo Darmian. Of last summer’s signings, only Anthony Martial has the swagger of someone who is able to deal with the size of the club. He took on responsibility for the opening goal, striking confidently from the penalty spot.
In the end, Schweinsteiger was sent on, stomping about the midfield; being at the pitch of the ball but usually too late before the release. He was soon booked for fouling Adam Lallana after simple skill left him trailing. The sorry sight acted as another reminder of the era where it went so wrong for Liverpool, when one fanzine dubbed less decorated figures like Neil Ruddock, Julian Dicks and Paul Stewart, the “team of fatties.”
Graeme Souness realised his time was up as Liverpool’s manager back then when Bristol City came to Anfield in the FA Cup in 1994 and as he ate his routine pre-match snack of tea and toast in the old Moat House Hotel, a team talk by Russell Osman in the next room revealed the desperate view of his team by employees of a club from the Second Division.
Had Van Gaal planted listening devices at the Marriott Hotel on Wednesday night as Jürgen Klopp discussed prospects for the following day, surely he would have heard damning repeated warnings about Liverpool’s greatest threat being complacency rather than anything the opponent in front of them had to offer.
The way United play, indeed, you’d believe Roy Hodgson was in Old Trafford’s home dugout and though the year could be 2010, when Hodgson was at Liverpool, the football is antediluvian. When Liverpool’s supporters chanted about Paul Scholes being right, “Your team is shite,” the lack of response from the home stands perhaps reflected some form of agreement.
The last time United appeared as desperate as this, a three-day week was called and the lights went out across Britain. It proved to be a relegation season and though they will not go down this campaign, they stagger on a precipice that relatively is as grave as it was in 1974.
United have ignored the history’s warnings. From here, Liverpool already have already shown it is a long journey back to the top.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...r-manchester-united-have-fallen-a6937786.html
The entrancing red lights of Old Trafford continue to display greatness, indicating it remains a theatre of dreams and yet on nights like these, it is reduced to an old creaking stage by the presence of fading stars and those too green yet to meet the enormity of the surroundings.
Concealed behind the imaginary curtain that separates pitch from technical area sat Bastian Schweinsteiger, the legendary midfielder who may have only been a substitute, but is someone nevertheless that represents a curious metaphor for Manchester United’s problems.
Less than two years ago, he was arguably Germany’s most influential player in a victorious World Cup campaign. Months before, his previous European knockout game on this ground came for Bayern Munich in the Champions League and his dynamism was an outstanding feature of the encounter, enabling him to score the Bavarians’ away goal. He was later sent off in a 1-1 draw.
Schweinsteiger’s subsequent decline since has been spectacular and now, judging by his weight, he is paid in Eccles cakes. Although the United executive vice-chairman, Ed Woodward, was keen to advertise shirt sale figures with Kitbag when it was revealed he had supposedly risen from 33rd to the fourth most popular player on the planet by moving to United, it has proven to be Bayern who were wisest to what was happening with their icon.
In sporting terms, the ruthlessness of Bayern and the misguidedness of United illustrate the difference between the clubs and how far one of them has fallen. Sir Alex Ferguson used to be able to sniff a player’s deterioration not by what he could no longer do going forward but by his inability to track back and regain a defensive position before damage was done. Mike Phelan, Ferguson’s assistant, remembers the day Roy Keane’s time as United’s captain was terminated when Ferguson leaned over to him during a training session after Keane surrendered possession, whispering, “He’s finished, Mike.” With that, Keane was gone.
Paddy Crerand, the 1968 European Cup winner, told United Review that Schweinsteiger had “changed the game in our favour” after his introduction in Sunday’s FA Cup draw with West Ham United, and yet Michael Carrick was still considered a better option than him from the start here, even though his contract is up in the summer.
Schweinsteiger’s struggles at United are not isolated. There is a wider recruitment issue. Had Morgan Schneiderlin or Memphis Depay been capable of justifying their huge fees by demonstrating any amount of inspiration, Schweinsteiger’s demise may have lay concealed for longer. It was significant that Schneiderlin and Depay were perched beside Schweinsteiger on the bench and so was Matteo Darmian. Of last summer’s signings, only Anthony Martial has the swagger of someone who is able to deal with the size of the club. He took on responsibility for the opening goal, striking confidently from the penalty spot.
In the end, Schweinsteiger was sent on, stomping about the midfield; being at the pitch of the ball but usually too late before the release. He was soon booked for fouling Adam Lallana after simple skill left him trailing. The sorry sight acted as another reminder of the era where it went so wrong for Liverpool, when one fanzine dubbed less decorated figures like Neil Ruddock, Julian Dicks and Paul Stewart, the “team of fatties.”
Graeme Souness realised his time was up as Liverpool’s manager back then when Bristol City came to Anfield in the FA Cup in 1994 and as he ate his routine pre-match snack of tea and toast in the old Moat House Hotel, a team talk by Russell Osman in the next room revealed the desperate view of his team by employees of a club from the Second Division.
Had Van Gaal planted listening devices at the Marriott Hotel on Wednesday night as Jürgen Klopp discussed prospects for the following day, surely he would have heard damning repeated warnings about Liverpool’s greatest threat being complacency rather than anything the opponent in front of them had to offer.
The way United play, indeed, you’d believe Roy Hodgson was in Old Trafford’s home dugout and though the year could be 2010, when Hodgson was at Liverpool, the football is antediluvian. When Liverpool’s supporters chanted about Paul Scholes being right, “Your team is shite,” the lack of response from the home stands perhaps reflected some form of agreement.
The last time United appeared as desperate as this, a three-day week was called and the lights went out across Britain. It proved to be a relegation season and though they will not go down this campaign, they stagger on a precipice that relatively is as grave as it was in 1974.
United have ignored the history’s warnings. From here, Liverpool already have already shown it is a long journey back to the top.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...r-manchester-united-have-fallen-a6937786.html
We needed an Anderson replacement.
Anybody else think that Chop on Lallana was lucky not to be a red? He really swang into him with quite some force, lucky he didn't hurt him properly. Looked really frustrated and was chasing shadows. TBF he was left in midfield all by himself though.
Not exactly been a great transfer but for the price we paid it was worth the risk and who knows, maybe under a less shite manager he could've excelled.
Man City 0:1 Man Utd
Other than under hitting a pass to Lingard that stopped a potential counter and firing one of those Ando rocket balls at Martial, I can't remember him doing much.
Bringing him actually resulted in complete loss of control.
We had no control before he came on.
Whoever plays in the number 10 role usually ends up anonymous in this system.
We had a tiny bit, but once he came on, it was all City.
No we didn't We were hoofing it all over the shop before he came on and couldn't get our foot on it after the fact either.
Fixed it for you.
I agree. Didn't have the impact I expected. Surprised he played so high up when he come on. Doesn't really suit him. Expected Van Gaal to go with a 433, with Scheiderlin and Schweinsteiger above Carrick. As it was, he seemed to play as a 10, and didn't really get into the game.
He's not everyones biggest fan, but we might as well put Fellaini on if we put Schweinsteiger there. At least he would have provided an out ball, and possibly held it up for us.
He's not everyones biggest fan, but we might as well put Fellaini on if we put Schweinsteiger there. At least he would have provided an out ball, and possibly held it up for us.
I've not noticed Carrick rifling passes in so hard that it they are hard to control, he's a more silky passer.
I didn't see the point of this substitution. He didn't really bring enough energy to press City enough.
DW Sports
@dw_sports
JUST IN: Bastian Schweinsteiger out with a knee injury. Did not train with German NT today. (via @JochenStutzky)
10:07 AM - 23 Mar 2016
@dw_sportsJUST IN: Bastian Schweinsteiger out with a knee injury. Did not train with German NT today. (via @JochenStutzky)
10:07 AM - 23 Mar 2016
Again?DW Sports
JUST IN: Bastian Schweinsteiger out with a knee injury. Did not train with German NT today. (via @JochenStutzky)
10:07 AM - 23 Mar 2016
Maybe? We better hope him and Ander are fit after the break or good old Fellaini will be in there. Until a Germany press conference we will not know the extent or if they just let him play and not train.
It's hard work carrying 17 stone around all day. Something had to give
Bild say that it's renewed right knee injury and he's going to be scanned in Munich.
This signing has been a predictable disaster. Old, slow, well past his best and massively injury prone.
Ridiculous that he hasn't retired from international duty. Lahm who has a much better injury record, saw it wise to retire.
It was nice to sign him, but years too late. Bayern saw us coming. I suppose at the cost it wasn't bad, but has not been much use. One goal and two assists.
Isn't he rumoured to be on £200k+ a week? It wouldn't surprise me if we only paid £6m for him.
I really don't think he's been that bad when on the field (remaining on the field has been the problem.) In the first half of the season, I found him to be a very reassuring presence on the field, and much more of a captain than our actual captain. But it was so very predictable that he wouldn't be able to stay healthy.
If he was going to stay healthy he would still be of use to Bayern. As someone said it is ridiculous that he didn't give international football up after the world cup
He's not on 200k a week. Daily Star made up that nonsense. German press reported it as 150k
Oh well, such a shame . My hope that he has one last great tournament in him is almost non-existent by now, I guess the World Cup final really was his swang song.
I wonder how long he'll stay at United if he can't stay fit. He has a 3 year contract, right? Not sure if he really wants to continue like this season for two more years. If your body doesn't allow you to play on the highest level anymore, it's usually better to stop.
. My hope that he has one last great tournament in him is almost non-existent by now, I guess the World Cup final really was his swang song.I wonder how long he'll stay at United if he can't stay fit. He has a 3 year contract, right? Not sure if he really wants to continue like this season for two more years. If your body doesn't allow you to play on the highest level anymore, it's usually better to stop.
Well not like he has played much for the NT in friendlies and qualifiers over the last couple of years anyways. He was vital to our WC win though.
- Status