Manchester United - Real Madrid (Super Cup)

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Hamadovich86

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We didn't have our best XI out there don't forget.
Marcelo>Shaw/Rojo as a left back
Varane/Ramos>Rojo
Ramos>Bailly
Ronaldo>Zlatan
Benzema<Zlatan
Everyone on the Madrid squad>Young

Doesnt make too much of a difference imo. Thats not taking into consideration the players who were missing for them or were on the bench. Bale, Morata and James are all players we have been linked with and they have not been able to hold a place in Madrid's starting lineup.


 

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You think Pogba is better than Modric? :lol:

Benzema is a much more effective player than Mkhitaryan. I'd still have Benzema in my team even if Mkhi was in his best Dortmund form.
Laugh all you want with your childish smiley pal, I respect your opinion. I would rather have Pogba than Modric. And Benzema is one of those players that if playing in another team, you'd wonder what the fuss was about. Like Mkhi, he has his moments which is why I feel any direct comparisons are debatable.
 

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Laugh all you want with your childish smiley pal, I respect your opinion. I would rather have Pogba than Modric. And Benzema is one of those players that if playing in another team, you'd wonder what the fuss was about. Like Mkhi, he has his moments which is why I feel any direct comparisons are debatable.
Benzema's link up play is one of his main attributes and one of the reasons why Ronaldo has excelled so much while playing alongside him for the best part of a decade.

Modric absolutely ran that game on Saturday night. I think it's delusional to think that Pogba would have had the same effect against that Juventus midfield and the best defence in the world. Pogba struggled to take a hold of the game vs a much much inferior Ajax team. I think it's appropriate to compare the performances of both players in each European cup final, and even disregarding the ridiculous quality difference in the opposition, there was still a fair gap in the effectiveness of both players.
 

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Overrating? Mate look at their starting lineup vs ours (UCL and UEL final lineups)

Navas <DDG
Carvajal>Valencia
Varane>Smalling
Ramos>Blind
Marcelo>Darmian
Casimero>Felliani
Modric>Pogba
Kroos>Herrera
Isco>Mata
Benzema>Miki
Ronaldo>Rashford

De Gea is the only one who would walk into their starting lineup. Midfield is a difficult comparison because of the different roles, but only Pogba would make it to their team. That's literally it. That being said we have a chance of beating them but the odds are not in our favor we have bad history with the Super Cup and with Madrid in general.
Yes, overrating beyond belief. Real Madrid are really fecking strong, they are. But with comments how this RM team is best football team ever(wtf?!), and with ridiculous comments how we should just capitulate and not even bother to play, you would think they roll over anyone before them with 5:0 or something.
Like any other team, they have weaknesses. They showed that quite a few times in this season.

The word 'overrated' does not mean bad, it means what it means, that some ppl here are freaking over the top with praising them.

All in all, they are beatable and feck them diving, cheating wankers anyway.
 

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Won't be as big of a score line as some are predicting.

Can't wait for it. I'm confident enough for the simple fact is we have Jose.
 

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Keep DDG and he had a god game, keeping a clean sheet and we win 1-0!

Or we sell him and he has a nightmare!
 

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We're gonna beat them.
 

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Wouldn't it be better waiting to see if we actually sign anyone and what our team will be before discussing this game and how our team compares to them?
 

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You are correct Macedonia is a Greek state the current Former Yugoslavian republic of Macedonia stole Greece's history. Didn't they use to be Yugolavia 30 or so years ago then overnight suddenly changed nationalities?
I'm not sure if this narrative is entirely true. The ancient kingdom of Macedon did cover wide swathes of the current country that bears that name. Also, the eagerness of the Greeks to claim Macedonia is amusing; that was not the case centuries ago. Philip and Alexander were viewed as invaders, not brethren, back in those days.
 

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Yes, overrating beyond belief. Real Madrid are really fecking strong, they are. But with comments how this RM team is best football team ever(wtf?!), and with ridiculous comments how we should just capitulate and not even bother to play, you would think they roll over anyone before them with 5:0 or something.
Like any other team, they have weaknesses. They showed that quite a few times in this season.

The word 'overrated' does not mean bad, it means what it means, that some ppl here are freaking over the top with praising them.

All in all, they are beatable and feck them diving, cheating wankers anyway.
I didnt think that people were calling them the best team ever, havent seen that honestly. I think they are better than us by miles but not to the extent of just giving up, I think we can beat them in the Super Cup actually.
 

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Overrating ? They won 3 CLs in 4 years. They are the only side in the world that you can't overrate them.
In comparison to the talent we also have in our midfeild first team,yes a lot of them are overrating it and underrating ours.
 

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Sorry mate but all their players bar De Gea walk all over our team. Modric is easily the best CM in the world and Herrera is nowhere near Kroos.
Oh come on stop overrating their and underrating ours.

Modric is top class but so is pogba. let's not kid ourselves,albeit is younger and less experienced which will come with age and will be improved next season, but pogba will go to greater heights than modric in his career and Herrera is better than kroos in defensive respect but kroos has the edge offensively in passing range. Herrera was misused by lvg which is a known fact, this year he was our player of the year when used correctly.
 

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Sorry mate but all their players bar De Gea walk all over our team. Modric is easily the best CM in the world and Herrera is nowhere near Kroos.
Oh come on stop overrating their and underrating ours.

Modric is top class but so is pogba. let's not kid ourselves,albeit is younger and less experienced which will come with age and will be improved next season, but pogba will go to greater heights than modric in his career and Herrera is better than kroos in defensive respect but kroos has the edge offensively in passing range. Herrera was misused by lvg which is a known fact, this year he was our player of the year when used correctly.
 

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Isn't Macedonia in complete chaos at the moment?
 

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Would you count this as a trophy or more like the community shield?
More than the community shield. But a glorified friendly nonetheless. If you win, you can try to take the confidence into the season. If you lose, you can just shrug it off. The season starts after that but it's always great to win.
 

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Isn't Macedonia in complete chaos at the moment?
Hey, a local here. Not really, we had a crappy transition of power for the last five months but it finally seems to be over. It never really affected day to day life, save for some protests with embarrassing highlights. All a political crisis to begin with. But the new government is finally in place and it seems to have stopped now entirely.
 

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Oh come on stop overrating their and underrating ours.

Modric is top class but so is pogba. let's not kid ourselves,albeit is younger and less experienced which will come with age and will be improved next season, but pogba will go to greater heights than modric in his career and Herrera is better than kroos in defensive respect but kroos has the edge offensively in passing range. Herrera was misused by lvg which is a known fact, this year he was our player of the year when used correctly.
I acknowledge that Pogba is showing world-class potential but there is nobody out there near Modric at the moment. Herrera has great attributes but he will never be close to Kroos as a CM, it's like comparing Casemiro to Pogba.
 

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Anyway, thinking about it also...:)
I may get to the game too. I'll keep an eye on tickets (not on sale yet).
@Ban you said Classico right. The Miami game is starting from 475 Euro and already tickets on sale and the Spanish Supercup starts from 175Euro.
 

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I may get to the game too. I'll keep an eye on tickets (not on sale yet).
@Ban you said Classico right. The Miami game is starting from 475 Euro and already tickets on sale and the Spanish Supercup starts from 175Euro.
Yeah, I thought they weren't on sale yet. As I understood from previous Super Cup matches they will proceed some amounts of tickets to both clubs.

Other tickets (smaller amount) will be sold directly by UEFA through their ticket sales portal where you can apply for a chance to get the ticket. That chance is of course small as there will be high demand for tickets.
 

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Predicted team:

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Lindelof Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Morata Perisic​
I'd settle for that all things considered. Prefer Belloti over Morata as I believe the former has all attributes and characteristics to flourish in
a Jose setup. Morata is a worthy alternative though.

I think we'll win in extra time 2-1. Jose knows better than anyone how to win a cup final.
 

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I'd settle for that all things considered. Prefer Belloti over Morata as I believe the former has all attributes and characteristics to flourish in
a Jose setup. Morata is a worthy alternative though.

I think we'll win in extra time 2-1. Jose knows better than anyone how to win a cup final.
Is there extra time in this?
 

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Think it will be a penalty shootout after 90 minutes instead of extra time. Makes no sense to play another 30 mins when the players are not fully fit yet into preseason

Why is this being played in Macedonia of all places? Thought this fixture has been held at Monaco's ground all along
 

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Flights seem a bugger from Manchester and surrounding airports for this.
 

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I think it will be a close game, never a walk in the park for Real. 2-1 in Utd's favour.
 

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I may get to the game too. I'll keep an eye on tickets (not on sale yet).
@Ban you said Classico right. The Miami game is starting from 475 Euro and already tickets on sale and the Spanish Supercup starts from 175Euro.
Like I've said previously you can buy a utd membership for £32 and apply through club.
Better chance of a ticket.
Last season's super cup prices were 50/90/150 euro.

http://www.uefa.com/uefasupercup/ticketing/index.html

http://www.manutd.com/en/Official-Membership/packs_prices_benefits
 
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Dave
Tony V, Bailly, Varane, Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera, Pogba
Mkhi, Rashford/Tony M, Perisic

Tony M/Rashford from the bench to freshen up the legs with 20-25 to go. With a pre-season to bed in the new players (CB, DM, AM), I think we give Real a game - really disappointed with the pessimism about our chances. If we buy a number 9, it has to be a worldy to improve this.
 
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