Cricket World Cup/ICC Champions Trophy Draft - R1 Raees vs Crappy

Based on performances in ICC tournaments which team would win?


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This draft is based on player performances in ICC World Cups and Champions Trophy only, only performances in these tournaments count, performances outside these tournaments carry no weight. Please vote according to this criteria.

TEAM RAEES

G. Greenidge
N. Astle
N. Sidhu
J. Trott
H. Cronje
B. Haddin
I. Botham
W. Akram
S. Bond
J. Garner
S. Mushtaq

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TEAM CRAPPY


1. Desmond Haynes
2. Neil Johnson
3. Viv Richards
4. Martin Crowe (*)
5. Brendon Taylor (wk)
6. Shane Watson
7. Ajay Jadeja
8. Zaheer Khan
9. Damien Fleming
10. Mushtaq Ahmed
11. Alan Donald

Raees writeup



Gordon Greenidge - World Cup Winner in 1975/1979 (finalist in 1983) ... tremendous aggressive opener who had a exceptionally strong record on the big stage, averaging 84 in the 1979 tournament.

Nathan Astle -
after struggling early on in his ICC career, the turning point for Astle was 2003 after which he became a cornerstone in All Blacks batting order.

Navjot Sidhu -
one of India's best big match ODI batsman and playing at 3 during 1987, he averaged 55 - dominating Australia in the two games he faced them.

Jonathan Trott -
A story of what might have been. Englands 'rock' during the 2011 World Cup and followed this with a brilliant ICC Champions Trophy showing. Stress-related issues meant, he never played in a tournament again post 2013.

Hansie Cronje -
a fallen idol, but a ODI legend for the Proteas, his best performance came in the 1996 World cup averaging 55 with the bat.

Brad Haddin (WK) -
Took off from where Gilchrist left off, averaging close to 50 as a lower order batsman for Australia in World Cups, making several key innings during the 2011 run to the final and finally winning it in 2015.

Ian Botham -
With the ball Botham was a super dangerous wicket taker in ICC Tournaments, with a glittering array of victims under his belt including likes of Tendulkar, Border and Miandad. Showed in 1992, he could also bat in hostile conditions too.

Saqlain Mushtaq -
Became a international star in the 1999 world cup, spinning Pakistan into the World Cup Final. Victims included the likes of Ponting and Kallis. Very very economical.

Shane Bond -
Despite his injury record, he featured in 5 ICC tournaments and blew everyone away. His strike rate says it all, searing pace and unerring accuracy.

Joel Garner -
His 5 wicket haul in the 1979 final announced his arrival on the world stage, and from then on he became arguably the best ODI bowler of all time.

Wasim Akram -
SNM absolute baller of the highest order and his performance in the 1992 final and across the 1999 world cup will stand the test of time.

Crappy writeup

Team Crappy


1. Desmond Haynes
2. Neil Johnson
3. Viv Richards
4. Martin Crowe (*)
5. Brendon Taylor (wk)
6. Shane Watson
7. Ajay Jadeja
8. Zaheer Khan
9. Damien Fleming
10. Mushtaq Ahmed
11. Alan Donald



Batting

The great Viv Richards leads the line up with a 100 against his name in a WC final. He was pretty much the best batsman in world ups until Sachin came about. Martin Crowe, player of the tournament in 92 WC, further cements the middle order. He was phenomenal in that world cup both as a player and a captain. Haynes and Johnson open the batting. Haynes needs no introduction while Johnson proved his mettle in 99 WC with great performances against the 2 best sides in the tournament - Oz and SA. Watson will play the role of enforcer/finisher in the line up with support of Jadeja - who can forget that innings against Pak in 96 WC, 45 off 25 balls!. Brendon Taylor was absolutely brilliant for Zimbabwe in 2015 WC with aggregate of 405 runs.


Bowling

Alan Donald, Zaheer Khan and Damien Fleming is an excellent trio of pacers. Donald was consistent for SA in WCs as his records reflects while Zaheer Khan had a great world cup for India in 2003 (despite the poor performance in the final) and was possibly India's second most important player in 2011 World cup win. Even in the 2011 final where his final figures were not good due to leaking runs in the end, he pretty much set up the win by choking SriLanka at the beginning of the innings. Mushtaq Ahmed takes up the role of spinner having played the same role in 92 WC win for Pakistan with excellent figures. Watson and Johnson join the line up with both capable of bowling 10 overs each. Another bowling option is Richards making 7 bowlers in total.

Summary - 8 out of 11 players have better record in ICC tournaments compared to their career one. (Border line for Jadeja and Donald too). Overall team has great pedigree in terms of historically great ODI players with match winning performances in world cups.
 

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Best of luck @crappycraperson

It is going to be a tight game in reality IMO but I think my set of bowlers is arguably the finest in the draft and covers every type of bowling, with guys who are some of the greatest ODI bowlers ever and also have world cup final credentials to back it up too.

Batting wise, I don't have anyone in the same league as Richards/Crowe but I think as a collective, it is strong enough to withstand your bowling enough to make a strong fist of it with some very clutch characters and we bat all the way to 7, with strong averages throughout. Sidhu, Greenidge and Trott in particular are fine batsman with impeccable records at ICC level and have that 'stickability' to dig in and get runs on the board.
 

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RAEES BOWLING ATTACK (VIDEOS)

WASIM AKRAM





JOEL GARNER


SHANE BOND


SAQLAIN MUSHTAQ



IAN BOTHAM


 

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Raees you got the best bowling line up,but the batting which worries me,team is not balanced enough.
 

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Raees you got the best bowling line up,but the batting which worries me,team is not balanced enough.
ICC record wise they're not bad tbh. Sidhu was rock solid at tournaments and as was Trott and Greenidge. Haddin is a World Cup winner and also a rock solid bat with high strike rate and Cronje and Botham are big match players with proven ability to make key 50s in hostile tournament conditions against likes of Australia etc.

Granted I don't have a big shiny batsman but with the sheer depth of my bowling attack and the relative weakness of his.. I don't think the nature of my batting lineup will lead to him running through them as they're pretty gritty clutch type of characters.
 

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ICC record wise they're not bad tbh. Sidhu was rock solid at tournaments and as was Trott and Greenidge. Haddin is a World Cup winner and also a rock solid bat with high strike rate and Cronje and Botham are big match players with proven ability to make key 50s in hostile tournament conditions against likes of Australia etc.

Granted I don't have a big shiny batsman but with the sheer depth of my bowling attack and the relative weakness of his.. I don't think the nature of my batting lineup will lead to him running through them as they're pretty gritty clutch type of characters.
Greenidge is top player no doubt,but don’t think rest are anything special when it comes to WC.Botham and Cronje didn’t had great WC either in term of Batting.
 

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Good team Raees, coming to the match up.

Garner is obviously an all time great ODI bowler but his WC stats are inferior to his career ones, not to mention WC ones itself are pretty much down to the 5 wicket haul in the final. Still a great bowler to have in the team but not sure I am thinking peak Garner when it comes to WC. Botham too never fully played at his best in the world cups. Akram's ICC numbers are oddly worse than his career ones, not sure what to make of that given he obviously had some great WC performances but how do you factor in consistency when looking at these things? Still inclined to ignore it for Akram given the number of tournaments he played.

Coming to batting, Greenidge is the obvious top dog but after that you are struggling to find reliable names who could win your matches.It is not as if they will be facing a weak bowling attack in any case.

Alan Donald does not have a signature WC performance but he has been consistent throughout with numbers similar to his career ones. Zaheer's number in ICC tournaments are absurdly good, better record than all of Akram, Bond and Garner. The trio's overall reputation means they will be rated higher but Zaheer had a legitimate claim to be our best player in 2011 WC and he was a revelation in 2011 WC and 1999 Champions trophy too. Mushtaq's WC numbers are significantly better than his career ones, he took 16 wickets in 8 matches in 92 WC including a 2 wicket haul in semis and 3 wicket one in the final.
 

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Good team Raees, coming to the match up.

Garner is obviously an all time great ODI bowler but his WC stats are inferior to his career ones, not to mention WC ones itself are pretty much down to the 5 wicket haul in the final. Still a great bowler to have in the team but not sure I am thinking peak Garner when it comes to WC. Botham too never fully played at his best in the world cups. Akram's ICC numbers are oddly worse than his career ones, not sure what to make of that given he obviously had some great WC performances but how do you factor in consistency when looking at these things? Still inclined to ignore it for Akram given the number of tournaments he played.

Coming to batting, Greenidge is the obvious top dog but after that you are struggling to find reliable names who could win your matches.It is not as if they will be facing a weak bowling attack in any case.

Alan Donald does not have a signature WC performance but he has been consistent throughout with numbers similar to his career ones. Zaheer's number in ICC tournaments are absurdly good, better record than all of Akram, Bond and Garner. The trio's overall reputation means they will be rated higher but Zaheer had a legitimate claim to be our best player in 2011 WC and he was a revelation in 2011 WC and 1999 Champions trophy too. Mushtaq's WC numbers are significantly better than his career ones, he took 16 wickets in 8 matches in 92 WC including a 2 wicket haul in semis and 3 wicket one in the final.
This is where I am. With Raees' great bowling/good batting vs your good bowling/great batting I just about go with the batting in limited overs cricket. I also love Zaheer in tourneys; I well remember the feeling when I was so close to having him pick four and you swiped him just before me :mad:
 

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Congrats Crappy. Well deserved win pal. (Won't be around to post)