Cricket World Cup/ICC Champions Trophy Draft - R1 Indnyc vs The Red Viper

Based on performances in ICC tournaments which team would win?


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This draft is based on player performances in ICC World Cups and Champions Trophy only, only performances in these tournaments count, performances outside these tournaments carry no weight. Please vote according to this criteria.


TEAM INDNYC


1. Mark Waugh
2. Tillakaratne Dilshan
3. Peter Kirsten
4. Mohd. Azharuddin
5. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6. Chris Cairns
7. Moin Khan
8. Madan Lal
9. Tim Southee
10. Bob Willis
11. Glenn McGrath

VS

TEAM THE RED VIPER

01. Virender Sehwag.
02. David Boon.
03. Virat Kohli. (c)
04. Jacques Kallis. (4)
05. Joe Root.
06. Scott Styris. (6)
07. Sarfraz Ahmed. (+)
08. Daniel Vettori. (5)
09. Andy Bichel. (3)
10. Andy Roberts. (1)
11. Waqar Younis. (2)


Indnyc writeup

1. Mark Waugh – Matches 24, Batting Average 51.66
2. Tillakaratne Dilshan – Matches 42, Batting Average 49.16
3. Peter Kirsten – Matches 8, Batting Average 68.33
4. Mohd. Azharuddin – Matches 32, Batting Average 35.95
5. Shivnarine Chanderpaul – Matches 47, Batting Average 44.48
6. Chris Cairns – Matches 32, Batting Average 34.15, Wickets 19
7. Moin Khan – Matches 26, Batting Average 23.07
8. Madan Lal – Matches 11, Batting Average 30.50, Bowling Average 19.36, Wickets 22
9. Tim Southee - Matches 20, Bowling Average 23.68, Wickets 35
10. Bob Willis – Matches 11, Bowling Average 17.50, Wickets 18
11. Glenn McGrath – Matches 51, Bowling Average 18.52, Wickets 92

Opening Batting

Mark Waugh and Dilshan easily form one of the best opening batting line ups in the draft. Waugh has four 100’s and five 50’s scoring over a 1000 runs. Dilshan has five 100’s and four 50’s in the draft period. Both have been incredibly consistent and played a major part in the success for their respective teams at the world cup. Both of them will support the bowling attack with their part time off breaks

Middle Order

Peter Kirsten – One of the most unfortunate batsman as some of his best time was when South Africa were exiled from playing international cricket. He played a major part in the success for South Africa as they were cheated of a place in the finals by absolutely rubbish rules. In 8 matches he scored four 50’s and 410 runs at an impressive average of 68.33. Perfect to play the no. 3 role, he’ll add finesse to the batting line up

Mohd. Azharuddin – Azhar is a perfect no. 4 batsman. He scored eight 50’s in world cups with over 800 runs scored. He was a consistent middle order batsman for India at the 1987, 1992, and 1996 world cup

Shivnarine Chandarpaul – I wonder how bad west indies would be without Chanderpaul. Over 1500 runs in the draft period, twelve 50’s, one 100, the guy is one of the most consistent batsman for all time. He can get stuck in and bat with the tail, add stability to the middle order and keep things ticking

Chris Cairns – An allrounder who is great with both the bat and ball is flexible to come in at either no.5 or no. 6 in the line up. Averaging 35, he scored a match winning 100 for New Zealand in the only major ICC event that they have ever won. He can score quickly and effectively and on his day is one of the most devastating batsman you can face

Moin Khan – Over 300 runs in 18 innings at an impressive average of 23 for a no. 7 batsman, the guy is one of the best better keepers in the world and someone who scored runs when you needed it the most. Another guy in the team who can score runs very quickly and consistently

Bowling

Tim Southee – 35 wickets in 20 matches at an average of 23, the guy is brilliant with his late outswing. He was the third highest wicket taker at the 2011 world cup and followed up with 7/33 in the 2015 world cup against England. Good lower order batsman who can score runs quickly as well

Madan Lal – A key part of India’s success at the 1983 world cup, his slow medium pacers troubled the best of batsman. He was the second highest wicket taker with 17 wickets at the 1983 world cup. Overall he took 22 wickets at an average of 19 at world cups. He was a fair batsman at lower order as well with an average of 30 (though it is driven mainly by not out’s). He can support the tail if required.

Bob Willis – Unfortunately, he missed the 1975 world cup with injury but at his peak he was one of the most feared bowlers of all time. Long run up and great pace, he could trouble the best. He took 18 wickets in 11 matches during the draft period at an incredible average of 17.50. Will add a lot of flair to the bowling attack

Glenn McGrath – 92 wickets, average of 18.52, Glenn McGrath. Enough said


The Red Viper writeup

The XI:-


01. Virender Sehwag.
02. David Boon.
03. Virat Kohli. (c)
04. Jacques Kallis. (4)
05. Joe Root.
06. Scott Styris. (6)
07. Sarfraz Ahmed. (+)
08. Daniel Vettori. (5)
09. Andy Bichel. (3)
10. Andy Roberts. (1)
11. Waqar Younis. (2)

THE TEAM:-



The Batting:-

Opening the batting we have the ultra-destructive Virender Sehwag and the 1987 World Cup Final - Man Of The Match, David Boon. Both were excellent batsmen who could attack at will and set the platform for the middle-order to build on it. At 1-down, we have Mr Consistent and super-dependable Jacques Kallis. One of the greatest batsman in ODI history, Kallis would provide some solidity to the batting unit. At 2-down, we have possibly one of the Top-3 batsman of ODI history in Virat Kohli. A supremely talented batsman with a range of shots as good as any. Kohli is a master of pacing his innings and playing depending on the situation. He can either anchor the innings or play the role of the finisher. At 3-down, we have another gifted batsman in Joe Root. Like Kohli, Root can either anchor the innings or be the finisher depending upon the situation. At 6, we have Scott Styris. A powerful batsman who thrived in the role of a finisher for the New Zealand team from early 2000s to 2010s, Styris would provide us with quick scoring with his ability to strike the ball and accelerate during the death overs. At 7, we have the ICC Champions Trophy Winning Captain, Sarfraz Ahmed. Sarfraz is another batsman who could give you a quickfire 30 odd runs from 20 odd balls but his ability to rotate the strike is also vital as he can give strike to the set-batsmen like Kohli, Root or Styris etc. Daniel Vettori and Andy Bichel form the tail. Both could strike the ball hard and have good batting records in ODIs. With them at helm, we have a very deep batting unit.

All in all, the batting line-up is really balanced. It has openers who exploit the new hard ball in the power-play, middle-order batsmen who could anchor the innings and build on the start provided by the top-order, finishers who can guide the team to a great total or chase down the total by perfectly pacing the innings. And then we have lower-order batsmen who can strike the ball hard and get quick runs on the board.

The Bowling:-

The bowling-attack comprises of Sir Andy Roberts, Waqar Younis, Andy Bichel, Jacques Kallis, Daniel Vettori and Scott Styris. In Andy Roberts and Waqar Younis, we have two All-Time Great fast bowlers to spear-head the bowling attack and get us wickets in the early stages of the game. Australia's 2003 World Cup Winning Hero, Andy Bichel would be our 1st change. Bichel was an extremely smart bowler. His ability to swing the ball would be vital as a 1st change as we could take Waqar out of the attack after few overs and preserve him for the death overs. Jacques Kallis is the fourth seamer of the attack. Another fine bowler. Pre-shoulder injury, Kallis was fast and was an extremely dangerous bowler who had a knack of picking up wickets. Post-shoulder injury, he lost the pace but mastered the art of swing and seam movement. What he lost in pace, he compensated it with his line and length. Daniel Vettori would be the spinner in the side. While he didn't spin the ball or offered as much flight as the likes of Warne and Murali, Vettori was a super smart bowler who could get you key wickets but his biggest asset is his ability to choke the runs in one end. One of the most economical bowlers in ODI history. Scott Styris would be our 6th bowler. A very handy bowler, Styris offers us some variety to our bowling attack with his medium-pace and off-cutters.


Overall, the bowling attack has plenty of ammo and variety in it. It has bowlers who can bowl at a genuine pace, swing the new ball as well as the old ball using reverse swing. Roberts had a mean bouncer in him and his slow bouncer would fool plenty of batsmen. On the other hand, Waqar offers elite reverse swing as well as unplayable yorkers in death overs. With Bichel, Kallis, Vettori and Styris supporting them, we have a bowling attack which can restrict any team's batting unit.
 

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This is one of the more even match ups will keep an eye on the discussions.
 

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team indnyc is a little bit suspect defensive wise IMO
 

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Think we are very evenly matched teams. I don’t have a specialist spinner in the team but with Dilshan and Waugh I don’t think I need one.

Feel I have a slightly better pace bowling lineup with McGrath, Willis and Southee slightly better than Roberts, Waqar and Bichel.

Batting wise again it’s very even with depth from both teams.. Dilshan and Waugh is arguably one of the best combinations possible when you consider just the draft criteria..
 

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Just noticed the wicketkeeper for the opposition is Sarfaraz Ahmed who while a good keeper isn’t as good as Moin Khan..
 

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who will stop Scott Styris? reckon he will have a great game and that could decide a winner
Scott Styris has some of his best performances at no. 4 if I remember correctly.. At no. 6, he isn’t going to be playing his normal game. Of course he could have a good game but we have enough bowlers in the team to stop him.. None of my bowlers have a bad economy rate.. See below for my four specialized bowlers

Bob Willis - Econ Rate 2.66
Madan Lal - Econ Rate 3.66
Glenn McGrath - Econ Rate 3.98
Tim Southee - Econ 4.66
 

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Scott Styris has some of his best performances at no. 4 if I remember correctly.. At no. 6, he isn’t going to be playing his normal game. Of course he could have a good game but we have enough bowlers in the team to stop him.. None of my bowlers have a bad economy rate.. See below for my four specialized bowlers

Bob Willis - Econ Rate 2.66
Madan Lal - Econ Rate 3.66
Glenn McGrath - Econ Rate 3.98
Tim Southee - Econ 4.66
tbf he was that good that he was winning matches comfortably from the number 4 position, will take some serious bowling from your side to take him down and win this. Specially considering McGrath has a weak arm at this level and is a bit of a flat track bully.
 

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tbf he was that good that he was winning matches comfortably from the number 4 position, will take some serious bowling from your side to take him down and win this. Specially considering McGrath has a weak arm at this level and is a bit of a flat track bully.
Hmm.. Highest wicket taker of all time and one of the most important cogs in the Australian machine.. I’ll take my chances with him against any batsman let alone Scott Styris. Again I don’t say that he can’t have a good game.. I feel we have good quality bowling to stop him

Also another point on Sarfaraz Ahmed.. 8 matches, 5 innings.. None of them at no. 7.. Three innings opening the batting..
 

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Hmm.. Highest wicket taker of all time and one of the most important cogs in the Australian machine.. I’ll take my chances with him against any batsman let alone Scott Styris. Again I don’t say that he can’t have a good game.. I feel we have good quality bowling to stop him

Also another point on Sarfaraz Ahmed.. 8 matches, 5 innings.. None of them at no. 7.. Three innings opening the batting..
think you are seriously underrating Scott, many see him as the ultimate GOAT for position 4......just messing with you mane, have no clue about the sport lol
 

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think you are seriously underrating Scott, many see him as the ultimate GOAT for position 4......just messing with you mane, have no clue about the sport lol
And he is batting at no. 6 :) Not underestimating him.. I don’t think I would have a chance without a good bowling lineup

Edit - Damn you Sjor!
 

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Indnyc has got a very good team but I feel he doesn't have enough attacking batsmen who can guide him to a good total or help him chase down a big total. Cairns is the only one who can hit big shots and accelerate.

I feel I have a better batting unit. More importantly a very balanced batting line-up. It has got two openers who would complement each other in Sehwag and Boon. Top-order and middle-order batsmen like Kallis, Kohli, Root and Styris who can anchor the innings and build on the platform laid by the openers, but at the same time attack well and score runs quickly.

Bowling wise, I think its more or less even. While I agree with Indnyc that he has got a slightly better pace attack, my bowling attack has more variety. Lack of a top spinner would hurt Indnyc, imo.
 

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Scott Styris has some of his best performances at no. 4 if I remember correctly.. At no. 6, he isn’t going to be playing his normal game. Of course he could have a good game but we have enough bowlers in the team to stop him.. None of my bowlers have a bad economy rate.. See below for my four specialized bowlers
I disagree that Styris won't get to play his natural game at 6.

He played a lot at 4 or 5 for New Zealand because they lacked good top-order batsman other than Astle and Fleming and later McCullum and Taylor. But his game was about rotating the strike, keep the score-board ticking and later hit big shots to accelerate. If anything it would be the perfect role for him to thrive as he can rotate the strike and give the strike back to more set batsmen like Kohli or Root and late in the innings hit big shots!
 

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I disagree that Styris won't get to play his natural game at 6.

He played a lot at 4 or 5 for New Zealand because they lacked good top-order batsman other than Astle and Fleming and later McCullum and Taylor. But his game was about rotating the strike, keep the score-board ticking and later hit big shots to accelerate. If anything it would be the perfect role for him to thrive as he can rotate the strike and give the strike back to more set batsmen like Kohli or Root and late in the innings hit big shots!
Sure.. I meant that playing at 4 is different from playing at 6.. At 4 he has to graft a bit and has time to set himself up vs. at 6 you are probably attacking a lot more from the start and have little time to settle down.. In that sense, he won't be playing the same role he does for NZ but no doubt he can influence the game (though i feel my bowlers have enough to stop him)

Anyway.. I think this game is almost done.. Good luck for the next rounds @The Red Viper