Did Liverpool have a good season? [Poll added]

Did Liverpool have a good season?


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There are more metrics for judging a good season than whether a team has a pot in May. It's a 10 month season and things like the way the team plays resonates with fans during the week by week slog because you enjoy the football rather than endure it. There's no doubt Liverpool fans have enjoyed watching their side this season. In addition, the CL run to the final gripped their fans. It was nauseating for me and all other opposition fans, but fan experience again doesn't have to be defined by whether there is a trophy to celebrate. You don't lift the trophy. Fan experience for many is the journey you feel a part of win, lose or draw.
 

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There are more metrics for judging a good season than whether a team has a pot in May. It's a 10 month season and things like the way the team plays resonates with fans during the week by week slog because you enjoy the football rather than endure it. There's no doubt Liverpool fans have enjoyed watching their side this season. In addition, the CL run to the final gripped their fans. It was nauseating for me and all other opposition fans, but fan experience again doesn't have to be defined by whether there is a trophy to celebrate. You don't lift the trophy. Fan experience for many is the journey you feel a part of win, lose or draw.
I couldn't agree more.
 
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I’ve just read a quote on Sky Sports that has grinded me. Apparently Klopp would not be interested in the Real Madrid job because of the fantastic season he has just had with Liverpool.

Why is there this notion, especially by the media, that Liverpool had a good season? They finished 4th securing Champions League football on the last day of the season. They reached a Champions League final which they lost in the most embarrassing way I have ever seen a team lose a final. A season where they won nothing. How can this be regarded as a good season?

So I ask the Caf have they had a good season?

If United had done that I would say a resounding no!
If that was United/Jose it wouldnt be acceptable but its Liverpool/Klopp so its a great season.
 

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Yes, better than ours.

Probably more entertaining for their fans to watch too, which is important.
 

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Relative to their previously shit seasons they have had a good season. You can also see the start of a very good team being formed. If they address key positions then they will probably challenge City for the title.
You could say that about United, Chelsea, Spurs...

They had an exceptional season. Finished top 4 and went all the way to the CL final with a bunch of rejected journeymen in their team.
:lol: exceptional? No.

They had a good season and that's about it. Par score. Ultimately they scraped top four on the last day and heavily lost the CL final.

Still compared to how they have performed over the past few years the season was good.
 

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Relative to their recent seasons? For sure.
Relative to a top European side? Definitely not.
 

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Every season with Klopp is a good season. Also history has almost immediately been re-written to say that they would’ve won the Champions League if Salah hadn’t been so savagely assaulted by Ramos, so they won the moral Champions League - which is an amazing achievement in any season.
 

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They had a good season. They got Champions League football which was probably the aim at the beginning of the season, and they reached the final. Thankfully they lost in hilarious fashion, but a good season. No more, no less.

Also, expectation for Liverpool is way below that of United and probably City now, so that will always factor in. Hence why it seems like they actually won the Champions League if you listen or read the post game coverage. No one can lose a final quite as good as Liverpool that's for sure.
 

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Relative to their recent seasons? For sure.
Relative to a top European side? Not a chance.
They are not top European side, though. They haven't been that for ages.

So, by their standards, they had a very good season. Almost great one, if they managed to nick it in the final.
 

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Ask 100 Liverpool fans about how they rate their season and ask 100 United fans. Compare the two opinions, that will give you a fair idea.

Though, I do see OP's logic in that the season wasnt amazing enough to reject an approach from Real Madrid. I think its even nonsensical to consider that any type of season would be great enough to reject an offer from Real Madrid if you're managing Liverpool, it simply doesn't depend on that. It depends more on the manager, Klopp seems like the manager who develops a bond with the team he's managing and therefore it wouldn't be easy to sway him away from the club, he rejected United's approach even after having an average season with Dortmund (again emphasising it has nothing to do with what type of season you've had).

Many other managers would want to move to Real after having the season Liverpool had, I see Klopp as being foolish enough to reject them though.
 

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When you reach the CL's final, at a time where such a few team managed to do that (RM, atletico, Juve, (barca)), you obviously have a very good season.

However, they secured their place the last day but weren't in a very bad place for doing it. They never really go out of the top 4 during the 2nd part. And while they were loosing a lot of points because of the CL, they managed to secure the top 4 so that's also a good thing and showed a good management.

You could argue about the 4th place. But in the end being 2, 3 or 4 didn't change a lot of things. Look at Real Madrid...

And they were the 1st team beating City in PL.
 

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I reckon they done good.

Very entertaining & proper funny at the end.

It's a yes, from me.
 

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The progress is there for all to see, the final was obviously a blow for them but they're on the right track they will be happy with last season.

Great start to the summer with Fabinho already in and Keita joining from RBL, 2 decent players coming into a position they were lacking.
 

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I think the question is more that is having a good season the same thing as claiming they had such a good season, that they are now a preference over Real Madrid, who have just won the European cup for the third year in a row.

I don't know anyone who hasn't developed a dislike for them over the course of this season, and this kind of nonsense is the exact reason why.

Most teams would consider themselves lucky and honoured to be in a CL final when struggling to finish 4th in their league. When it's Liverpool they act like it's akin to winning the treble without losing a game. There's been TV documentaries, outlandish claims, ridiculous hyperbole.

This is all for a team who finished 4th and didn't win anything. Something that at least 4 teams HAVE to do as good or better than as a bare minimum, every single year.
Hit the nail on the head. I mean Salah has had one good season and next minute there’s a documentary about his life on channel 5. I don’t remember as much hype on Ronaldo when we won the Champions League and he won World player of the year!

BBC news in the morning, 3 times this week the first sports story was an update on Salah’s injury and whether he will be fit for the World Cup. He’s not even English so why would anyone except Liverpool and Egyptians fans really care.
 

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I reckon they done good.

Very entertaining & proper funny at the end.

It's a yes, from me.
Ah, I get it now! It was a tragi-comedy! Perhaps one of the greatest of all time if they hadn’t let it slip all those years ago.
 

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Ask 100 Liverpool fans about how they rate their season and ask 100 United fans. Compare the two opinions, that will give you a fair idea.

Though, I do see OP's logic in that the season wasnt amazing enough to reject an approach from Real Madrid. I think its even nonsensical to consider that any type of season would be great enough to reject an offer from Real Madrid if you're managing Liverpool, it simply doesn't depend on that. It depends more on the manager, Klopp seems like the manager who develops a bond with the team he's managing and therefore it wouldn't be easy to sway him away from the club, he rejected United's approach even after having an average season with Dortmund (again emphasising it has nothing to do with what type of season you've had).

Many other managers would want to move to Real after having the season Liverpool had, I see Klopp as being foolish enough to reject them though.
Don't think it has anything to do with being foolish. Klopp comes across as someone perfectly suited to Pool where the shite he spouts is lapped up and the expectations are low enough for it not to be a problem for him. He won't get these luxuries at a club like Real where the demand is not just to play good football but to win stuff season on season, something he's absolutely shite at.
 

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I’ve just read a quote on Sky Sports that has grinded me. Apparently Klopp would not be interested in the Real Madrid job because of the fantastic season he has just had with Liverpool.

Why is there this notion, especially by the media, that Liverpool had a good season? They finished 4th securing Champions League football on the last day of the season. They reached a Champions League final which they lost in the most embarrassing way I have ever seen a team lose a final. A season where they won nothing. How can this be regarded as a good season?

So I ask the Caf have they had a good season?

If United had done that I would say a resounding no!
Take everything into context and you would agree they have had a good season. They have been in and out of the ucl for the past ten years, mostly out of it. Now they have qualified for it back to back for the first time in a while and also reached the final. That's a lot of progress and a good season for them. For someone like Chelsea or Man city it would be a bad season for them. For us it would be considered average .
 

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I’ve just read a quote on Sky Sports that has grinded me. Apparently Klopp would not be interested in the Real Madrid job because of the fantastic season he has just had with Liverpool.

Why is there this notion, especially by the media, that Liverpool had a good season? They finished 4th securing Champions League football on the last day of the season. They reached a Champions League final which they lost in the most embarrassing way I have ever seen a team lose a final. A season where they won nothing. How can this be regarded as a good season?

So I ask the Caf have they had a good season?

If United had done that I would say a resounding no!

They hugely overachieved by getting to the CL final but that was as much down to luck and poor refereeing as anything else, apart from that it was standard Liverpool. Embarrassing early exits in both domestic cup competitions and just about scrapping top 4
 

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Ah, I get it now! It was a tragi-comedy! Perhaps one of the greatest of all time if they hadn’t let it slip all those years ago.
Seems like it's their specialism. atm. But yes, this one does seem totally outranked by 2014 which was much more the actual 'snatching defeat from the jaws of victory' when he fell over for no apparent reason & which was a far bigger surprise I suppose.
 

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Liverpool reaching a CL final has to make it a good season. However, when you think about the easy road they had to that final, it's not as if they proved that much in the doing. I think they may have had the luckiest path to a CL final in modern history, the only genuinely difficult opponent they had were City and they were fortunate to meet them at exactly the point in time during City's otherwise great season where they had a run of bad form. If they had to play ten games throughout a season, City would win twice as often as Liverpool.

And the rest of the teams they faced? Sevilla, Spartak, Maribor in a group they barely handled, winning three in six and finishing with the second lowest point tally ahead of only Roma who were grouped with Chelsea and Atletico. Porto and Roma? That's some fortunate fecking draws. Of these, only Roma should even begin to be an obstacle, and not a worrying one at that. Roma did well to knock Barcelona out, but that's another huge anomaly that wouldn't happen more than one time in ten if you repeated the experiment. They're not a frightening team.

Anyway, that's not all sour grapes. Well done to Liverpool, you don't get to a CL final on luck alone. But they would not have got there if they didn't get to go through the easiest selection of teams that you can possibly ask for in a CL run. Thus, reaching the CL final is not evidence that they're among Europe's top sides. If they'd had to go through a group with, say, Tottenham and Real Madrid, and then faced City and Barcelona in the knockouts, reaching the final would be a huge statement, something you could point to and say "this is proof that we can do great things."

So, did Liverpool have a good season? If you look at the bottom line, they certainly did. But if you look at the journey, they didn't actually overcome any great odds or accomplish any unusual feats. They secured 4th place on the last day in a season where both Arsenal and Chelsea fell apart, and they got through the CL with the luckiest choice of opposition one can possibly imagine. These are not things that would happen again.
 
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Disagree with most in here.

They lost Coutinho, won nothing and ended the season deflated and in tears.

That kind of thing doesn't always 'build momentum'.

The only real 'success' they had was getting 4th, which they secured on the last day of the season.
 

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Don't think it has anything to do with being foolish. Klopp comes across as someone perfectly suited to Pool where the shite he spouts is lapped up and the expectations are low enough for it not to be a problem for him. He won't get these luxuries at a club like Real where the demand is not just to play good football but to win stuff season on season, something he's absolutely shite at.
Meh, keep on deluding yourself with that.
 

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For a side that's only won a League cup on penalties against Cardiff in the last 12 years, a European Cup final and 4th has to be classed as a good season. They played some good stuff and you can argue with a bit of strengthening, they can crack on next year. We were all fighting over scraps this year anyway, with how good City were.
 

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Disagree with most in here.

They lost Coutinho, won nothing and ended the season deflated and in tears.

That kind of thing doesn't always 'build momentum'.

The only real 'success' they had was getting 4th, which they secured on the last day of the season.
It's all about building a story and its why Liverpool win feck all. Football isn't a fairytale and you have to pay your dues.

A liverpool humiliation was written on the wall, they were celebrating when they beat Roma as if they had won the CL already. Contrast this to Madrid who treated the final like any other game, Ronaldo and Bale dropped transfer bombs in post match interviews as if they had just finished a training session :lol:
 

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For a club like liverpool who celebrate mediocrity, yes it was a good season. If we had done the same, most of our fans would have termed the season a failure.
 

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Only City had a better season for me. But you have to put things in context, finishing 4th and losing the CL final would have been considered a bad season under Fergie but given Liverpool's last 10 years, it's a great season for them.
 

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Literally an incredibly good season for them.

They’ve barely spent anything net wise and got to the CL final despite losing their best player. They also have got signings coming in.

They’ll all be feeling rightfully optimistic.
 

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It’s just decent, progress has been made and they can find ways to be optimistic about the future but no more then this.

They didn’t win anything againand this week their journos have been boasting about how great they are in the transfer market. They are becoming more like Spurs by the year. What happened to the mighty Liverpool?
 

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I’ve seen a few posts saying top four is a standard season for us.

It isn’t though is it.

Our last 10 league finishes: 2nd, 7th, 6th, 8th, 7th, 2nd, 6th, 8th, 4th, 4th.

That’s hardly regular top four finishes. We’ve had a decent season and it’s something to build on.
 

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They had a similar season to us, if you think ours was a failure then so was there's, if you think ours was decent with progression shown then so was theirs.
 

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I’ve just read a quote on Sky Sports that has grinded me. Apparently Klopp would not be interested in the Real Madrid job because of the fantastic season he has just had with Liverpool.

Why is there this notion, especially by the media, that Liverpool had a good season? They finished 4th securing Champions League football on the last day of the season. They reached a Champions League final which they lost in the most embarrassing way I have ever seen a team lose a final. A season where they won nothing. How can this be regarded as a good season?

So I ask the Caf have they had a good season?

If United had done that I would say a resounding no!
Whether they finished 4th or 10th, making the CL final alone would be a great season. They also have one of the best players in the world and are building on that with new players, so why on earth would Klopp even consider leaving.
 

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Don't think it has anything to do with being foolish. Klopp comes across as someone perfectly suited to Pool where the shite he spouts is lapped up and the expectations are low enough for it not to be a problem for him. He won't get these luxuries at a club like Real where the demand is not just to play good football but to win stuff season on season, something he's absolutely shite at.
Exactly. Klopp is better suited for underdog mentality. I actually doubt if he can take pressure and that's one reason his finals record is pathetic. Expect nothing, he will manage to give you something. But if you expect something big, he will crumble and disappoint, that's klopp for you.