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Kane walks into the Madrid side with a blind fold on. And Poch, well, he is Madrid's no 1 target so....



The challenge at Spurs is far greater, get real. If Poch was to win the league at Spurs he'd go down in history as arguably one of their top 3 greatest ever managers
:lol: I’m sorry to disappoint you but your ship has sailed after Leicester season, you won’t get close to winning a thing in the next couple of years with quality of teams and managers around.
 

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This isn't true for Managers I think.

He can resign. They can sue him for breach of contract.

They can't stop him from resigning. Wondering if specific clauses in his contract could effect things but I'd be surprised if any managers contract contained a non compete or some other clause to complicate things. One for the lawyers.

Could end up being quite legally messy.

Managers aren't treated legally in the same way as players though AFAIK. (Like when we fired Mutu and then came after him for his transfer fee.)

They are covered by normal employment laws.

I would imagine if he wants the Real Madrid job, he'll take legal advice, and we'll see soon if he's prepared to force his way out or not.
With legal training (though not an employment lawyer), I would think that there's some form of break fee or clawback built into the contract ie if he wants to walk away, he'll need to repay a large chunk of salary/bonus and compensation on top of that (read about Pulis' case with Crystal Palace). On top of that, I doubt he could resign and take up a job with Real - I dont know how employment contracts in football work, but I imagine Spurs could put him on long-term garden leave, preventing him from taking up work, or simply reject his resignation (which is really a request to break the contract), and require him to carry on. And that's not even getting into FIFA/UEFA rules about how a team can approach another team's manager.
 

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This isn't true for Managers I think.

He can resign. They can sue him for breach of contract.

They can't stop him from resigning. Wondering if specific clauses in his contract could effect things but I'd be surprised if any managers contract contained a non compete or some other clause to complicate things. One for the lawyers.

Could end up being quite legally messy.

Managers aren't treated legally in the same way as players though AFAIK. (Like when we fired Mutu and then came after him for his transfer fee.)

They are covered by normal employment laws.

I would imagine if he wants the Real Madrid job, he'll take legal advice, and we'll see soon if he's prepared to force his way out or not.
Yeah. He can resign, then Spurs will have to make an example out of him and refuse to release him to another club. Pochettino would have ruined his reputation (no one really wants a manager who does something like that) so he can stay "jobless" for a couple of years after which he'll be happy to get a midtable offer.
 

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Kane walks into the Madrid side with a blind fold on. And Poch, well, he is Madrid's no 1 target so....



The challenge at Spurs is far greater, get real. If Poch was to win the league at Spurs he'd go down in history as arguably one of their top 3 greatest ever managers, if he was to win any major trophy, he'll be remembered for ever. If he creates sustained success, he creates a legacy. Spurs are one of 6 sides in the PL that try to win the league every season. At Madrid, even if he won the CL, he would be no more than a fart in the wind. At Madrid, there are only 3 sides who can ever win the league, even in default setting, you finish top 3. The challenges are not comparable. Even medicore managers can take over at Madrid and win trophies. At Spurs, mediocre managers will get found out very quickly.



If the challenge at Spurs to win trophies is greater than Madrid, which it is right? You can't even argue that point. How is it lacking ambition to choose to stay in a job where it is HARDER to win trophies? Your post isn't logical. It is a sign of Poch's ambition that he wishes to remain at Spurs to try and win major trophies. Zidane is certainly not a great manager, I can guarantee he will likely do absolutely nothing in his career as a manger post Madrid. He isn't a great coach. Yet he's won 3 CLs. That is Madrid for you. Run of the mill managers can take over and win trophies like no tomorrow. Bringing Bale on with half an hour of a CL final doesn't make you a tactical genius ffs. He should have started.




I can smell the disappointment from United fans on here. AT first, a few days ago, when Poch was confirmed as Madrid's top target, nobody could contain their glee. "Ahaha, Poch will leave Spurs, gutted" etc etc etc. Oh wait, what's this? Poch has turned down Madrid because he WANTS TO STAY AT SPURS. Well it must be because he lacks ambition, yes that's it. How predictable. Just maybe it's because he thinks the challenge at Spurs and the job he has it fantastic at Spurs and he wants to see it through?! Maybe it's because he has complete control at Spurs and doesn't want to be Perez's bitch?!
Hopefully you'll stay in the newbies.
 

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Guillem Balague says Pochettino is not going to RM. He's close to Pochettino, so if anybody is in the know in this matter, he is.
Balague or 'ballbag', also talks ridiculous amounts of shite, which is why most people take what he says with a pinch of salt.
 

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If Ball bag is saying Poch isn't going to RM than we can believe the complete opposite.
 

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Wasn’t actually referring to you. More to other two guys who keep telling everyone that Poch loves spurs and there is categorically no chance that he would ever want to leave etc
Not a single Spurs fan has ever said that ... your comment is simply wilful distortion.

We've said that he won't be leaving this summer and beyond that who knows.
 

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Most good forwards are better than current Benzema (over a season) anyway, doesn't mean someone like Kane is actually worth 100M, let alone 200 or some other dumb fee. Same case with Poch, if he was worth the price/trouble you bet your club that Perez would sign him, but he's not.

The rest of your post (which I didn't quote) gotta be a joke, how deluded Spurs can be, nobody cares about Spurs mate, even if they win the league or whatever (which they won't). Ranieri won it with freaking Leicester, and nobody cares about him now.
I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
 

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Given that they actually won the f*cking thing (while Spurs went on to win nothing, again), I sincerely doubt it.
 

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If Ball bag is saying Poch isn't going to RM than we can believe the complete opposite.
He was ghost-writer for Pochettino's recent book, so has obviously spent a lot of time with him. It's not hard to imagine that subject of Real Madrid came up in discussions between them and that he thus knows Poch's views on taking up taking up any job offer.
 

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They've just won three back to back CL's. I doubt they give a feck where they finished in the group stages. :lol:
At the time they didn't know they'd win the CL this season, so it doesn't wash to say that RM fans didn't care about losing to Spurs and coming 2nd in the group.
 

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I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
I really do not think so. Every big club experiences upsets every now and again. If you knocked them out of the quarter finals for example, then maybe they would pay some more attention to you.
 

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Oh my, this is just getting sad now...
If you wish to take the view that fans don't care if their team loses a game, then that's your lookout sunshine.
 

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Wow, as a United fan am a bit embarrassed by some of this. Reality of the situation is that midway through this season - and certainly in our worst part of it - at least half the posters on here would have had Poch in a heartbeat. Plays good football (slightly overplayed as attacking, but relative to Jose he's Keegan's Newcastle), develops talent, has a clear system and belief, is young and proven in the premier league. He's normally number 1 or 2 to replace Jose in any discussion.

Then he signs a new deal at Spurs, signalling to all that he's committed to that project (uck). Great! A bit of loyalty and long term ambition in football for once! Being honest with myself, I'm a bit jealous. Our manager just said similar things yesterday but nothing would surprise me less than him being gone by Christmas after having a mediocre start to the season and imploding.

Now along come Real Madrid who are rightly used to getting their way and he's told them to f*ck off? Shouldn't we applauding that? If this was in relation to a player, wouldn't we? Certainly if it was one of our players. De Gea? Hell even Martial?

Anyway, Spurs are very likely to finally win something in the next 1 or 2 seasons - the FA or League Cup - with Poch in charge. They won't win the league or the CL, but look at the wage bill! The players love him, the fans love him, the press adore him, the board loves him and his life is, in the end, pretty awesome. Has stability for his family, knows where he'll be living in 6 months time and can just keep doing his thing.

If he goes to Madrid that all goes away.
 

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At the time they didn't know they'd win the CL this season, so it doesn't wash to say that RM fans didn't care about losing to Spurs and coming 2nd in the group.
They didn't. Posters on here said as such.
Madrid are a different animal in the knockouts. Its all there, no need to make assumptions or create strawmen.
 

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... along come Real Madrid who are rightly used to getting their way and he's told them to f*ck off? Shouldn't we applauding that? ...
You're right.

But some opposition fans on here don't like it because it destroys their preferred narrative - namely that Spurs are about to implode due to an exodus of players/manager. (Never mind that we hear the same story every summer, tho' it never pans out as predicted).

According to such fans, the star players at Spurs are virtual prisoners on starvation wages and can't wait to jump ship, whilst the manager will be gone in flash when RM come calling ... and they hate it when their wishful-thinking delusions are exposed.
 

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I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
Madrid finished 2nd in the group the year before as well (with Dortmund topping the group), and guess what? They won it and no one cares. It's just a means of advancing.

But congratulations on the group stage trophy.

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Pointing out that fans do care when their team loses has nothing to do with "boasting" and everything to do with pointing out the obvious.

But if you wish to maintain that fans don't care when their team loses, then I'll just leave you hanging in that ridiculous stance.
Most really don't when nothing is on the line like a group stage match, they know that CL is a long game. But I can see why Spurs fans might care so much as they don't know whether they'll be in it next year(s).
 
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Madrid finished 2nd in the group last year as well (with Dortmund topping the group), and guess what? They won it and no one cares. It's just a means of advancing, not something to boast about.

But congratulations on the group stage trophy, truly.
Pointing out that fans do care when their team loses has nothing to do with "boasting" and everything to do with pointing out the obvious.

But if you wish to maintain that fans don't care when their team loses, then I'll just leave you hanging in that ridiculous stance.
 

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Man @GlastonSpur , this relationship you have with the caf is really toxic. You guys are like a big tight-knit sharp-elbowed family with protracted beef, always finding new ways to one up each-other every time a new topic comes up at the dinner table. Why are you doing this to yourself?
 

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Again, this is not a fact. It’s actually the complete opposite, there’s absolutely no chance Zidane would have been fired if he had lost the CL final.

The most likely thing to have happened is Pochettino not outright refusing Madrid but telling them to talk to Levy about a price which made Madrid look for other options.

Kane and Alli aren’t worth what they would cost and I think Eriksen will end up leaving either this summer or next.
Believe whatever cosy theory makes you comfortable, although the notion that RM looked elsewhere due a shortage of money is pretty shaky.

Alli and Kane aren't available in the first place, so "what they would cost" is immaterial, and Eriksen will sign a new contract.
 

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After 3 CL in a row for Zidane
surely you would rather be the one that takes over from the one that takes over from Zidane
like what happened with Sir Alex

I think they might go for Wenger as he is free to get plays attractive football
and a two year contract will leave time to get Poch or Klopp or Jose in
especially if by then Ramos and Ronaldo have left
 

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Believe whatever cosy theory makes you comfortable, although the notion that RM looked elsewhere due a shortage of money is pretty shaky.

Alli and Kane aren't available in the first place, so "what they would cost" is immaterial, and Eriksen will sign a new contract.
How say this with such assurance, as if you are ITK or something. Do you have a credible source that feeds you information on all things related to Spurs, or are you simply guessing?
 

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Kane walks into the Madrid side with a blind fold on. And Poch, well, he is Madrid's no 1 target so....



The challenge at Spurs is far greater, get real. If Poch was to win the league at Spurs he'd go down in history as arguably one of their top 3 greatest ever managers, if he was to win any major trophy, he'll be remembered for ever. If he creates sustained success, he creates a legacy. Spurs are one of 6 sides in the PL that try to win the league every season. At Madrid, even if he won the CL, he would be no more than a fart in the wind. At Madrid, there are only 3 sides who can ever win the league, even in default setting, you finish top 3. The challenges are not comparable. Even medicore managers can take over at Madrid and win trophies. At Spurs, mediocre managers will get found out very quickly.



If the challenge at Spurs to win trophies is greater than Madrid, which it is right? You can't even argue that point. How is it lacking ambition to choose to stay in a job where it is HARDER to win trophies? Your post isn't logical. It is a sign of Poch's ambition that he wishes to remain at Spurs to try and win major trophies. Zidane is certainly not a great manager, I can guarantee he will likely do absolutely nothing in his career as a manger post Madrid. He isn't a great coach. Yet he's won 3 CLs. That is Madrid for you. Run of the mill managers can take over and win trophies like no tomorrow. Bringing Bale on with half an hour of a CL final doesn't make you a tactical genius ffs. He should have started.




I can smell the disappointment from United fans on here. AT first, a few days ago, when Poch was confirmed as Madrid's top target, nobody could contain their glee. "Ahaha, Poch will leave Spurs, gutted" etc etc etc. Oh wait, what's this? Poch has turned down Madrid because he WANTS TO STAY AT SPURS. Well it must be because he lacks ambition, yes that's it. How predictable. Just maybe it's because he thinks the challenge at Spurs and the job he has it fantastic at Spurs and he wants to see it through?! Maybe it's because he has complete control at Spurs and doesn't want to be Perez's bitch?!
One of the worst posts I've ever see on here. Well done.
 

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How say this with such assurance, as if you are ITK or something. Do you have a credible source that feeds you information on all things related to Spurs, or are you simply guessing?
No, I'm not simply guessing.
 

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Are you the Glaston of newbies?
Did you actually write that challenge at Spurs is far greater?
Also that part about Zidane is pretty funny. I guess Poch is a better manager so he doesn't want to go to Madrid where winning is so easy compared to Spurs.
Is that wrong?

Look how much stick Guardiola gets for supposedly only taking easy jobs. I'm not saying Poch doing well at Spurs means given a bigger budget and more leverage he'd be a sure success at a higher club because that can blow in your face like David Moyes who had Everton in the European places on a shoe-string budget but failed at Utd. But that's only with the benefit of hindsight do we know that.

I think Sean Dyche getting Burnley into Europe is a bigger achievement than Guardiola winning the league with City. It's relative to the resources you have and in Poch's case he does have financial handicaps compared to the teams competing with them, yet he's got them into the UCL for a third straight year while not being at a proper home this season just gone. So yes I believe the challenge is far greater.
 

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We should put immaterial buy out clauses for all the good players We have and imitate Spurs because that's just pure genius.