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Lights on for Luke
This is a small victory for Spurs, maybe they’ll put it in their rather empty trophy cabinet.
This is a small victory for Spurs, maybe they’ll put it in their rather empty trophy cabinet.
I’m sorry to disappoint you but your ship has sailed after Leicester season, you won’t get close to winning a thing in the next couple of years with quality of teams and managers around.Kane walks into the Madrid side with a blind fold on. And Poch, well, he is Madrid's no 1 target so....
The challenge at Spurs is far greater, get real. If Poch was to win the league at Spurs he'd go down in history as arguably one of their top 3 greatest ever managers
With legal training (though not an employment lawyer), I would think that there's some form of break fee or clawback built into the contract ie if he wants to walk away, he'll need to repay a large chunk of salary/bonus and compensation on top of that (read about Pulis' case with Crystal Palace). On top of that, I doubt he could resign and take up a job with Real - I dont know how employment contracts in football work, but I imagine Spurs could put him on long-term garden leave, preventing him from taking up work, or simply reject his resignation (which is really a request to break the contract), and require him to carry on. And that's not even getting into FIFA/UEFA rules about how a team can approach another team's manager.This isn't true for Managers I think.
He can resign. They can sue him for breach of contract.
They can't stop him from resigning. Wondering if specific clauses in his contract could effect things but I'd be surprised if any managers contract contained a non compete or some other clause to complicate things. One for the lawyers.
Could end up being quite legally messy.
Managers aren't treated legally in the same way as players though AFAIK. (Like when we fired Mutu and then came after him for his transfer fee.)
They are covered by normal employment laws.
I would imagine if he wants the Real Madrid job, he'll take legal advice, and we'll see soon if he's prepared to force his way out or not.
Yeah. He can resign, then Spurs will have to make an example out of him and refuse to release him to another club. Pochettino would have ruined his reputation (no one really wants a manager who does something like that) so he can stay "jobless" for a couple of years after which he'll be happy to get a midtable offer.This isn't true for Managers I think.
He can resign. They can sue him for breach of contract.
They can't stop him from resigning. Wondering if specific clauses in his contract could effect things but I'd be surprised if any managers contract contained a non compete or some other clause to complicate things. One for the lawyers.
Could end up being quite legally messy.
Managers aren't treated legally in the same way as players though AFAIK. (Like when we fired Mutu and then came after him for his transfer fee.)
They are covered by normal employment laws.
I would imagine if he wants the Real Madrid job, he'll take legal advice, and we'll see soon if he's prepared to force his way out or not.
Hopefully you'll stay in the newbies.Kane walks into the Madrid side with a blind fold on. And Poch, well, he is Madrid's no 1 target so....
The challenge at Spurs is far greater, get real. If Poch was to win the league at Spurs he'd go down in history as arguably one of their top 3 greatest ever managers, if he was to win any major trophy, he'll be remembered for ever. If he creates sustained success, he creates a legacy. Spurs are one of 6 sides in the PL that try to win the league every season. At Madrid, even if he won the CL, he would be no more than a fart in the wind. At Madrid, there are only 3 sides who can ever win the league, even in default setting, you finish top 3. The challenges are not comparable. Even medicore managers can take over at Madrid and win trophies. At Spurs, mediocre managers will get found out very quickly.
If the challenge at Spurs to win trophies is greater than Madrid, which it is right? You can't even argue that point. How is it lacking ambition to choose to stay in a job where it is HARDER to win trophies? Your post isn't logical. It is a sign of Poch's ambition that he wishes to remain at Spurs to try and win major trophies. Zidane is certainly not a great manager, I can guarantee he will likely do absolutely nothing in his career as a manger post Madrid. He isn't a great coach. Yet he's won 3 CLs. That is Madrid for you. Run of the mill managers can take over and win trophies like no tomorrow. Bringing Bale on with half an hour of a CL final doesn't make you a tactical genius ffs. He should have started.
I can smell the disappointment from United fans on here. AT first, a few days ago, when Poch was confirmed as Madrid's top target, nobody could contain their glee. "Ahaha, Poch will leave Spurs, gutted" etc etc etc. Oh wait, what's this? Poch has turned down Madrid because he WANTS TO STAY AT SPURS. Well it must be because he lacks ambition, yes that's it. How predictable. Just maybe it's because he thinks the challenge at Spurs and the job he has it fantastic at Spurs and he wants to see it through?! Maybe it's because he has complete control at Spurs and doesn't want to be Perez's bitch?!
25 minutes too late.
Balague or 'ballbag', also talks ridiculous amounts of shite, which is why most people take what he says with a pinch of salt.Guillem Balague says Pochettino is not going to RM. He's close to Pochettino, so if anybody is in the know in this matter, he is.
Poch is probably already in Flo's office as we speak.If Ball bag is saying Poch isn't going to RM than we can believe the complete opposite.
Not a single Spurs fan has ever said that ... your comment is simply wilful distortion.Wasn’t actually referring to you. More to other two guys who keep telling everyone that Poch loves spurs and there is categorically no chance that he would ever want to leave etc
I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.Most good forwards are better than current Benzema (over a season) anyway, doesn't mean someone like Kane is actually worth 100M, let alone 200 or some other dumb fee. Same case with Poch, if he was worth the price/trouble you bet your club that Perez would sign him, but he's not.
The rest of your post (which I didn't quote) gotta be a joke, how deluded Spurs can be, nobody cares about Spurs mate, even if they win the league or whatever (which they won't). Ranieri won it with freaking Leicester, and nobody cares about him now.
They've just won three back to back CL's. I doubt they give a feck where they finished in the group stages.I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
He was ghost-writer for Pochettino's recent book, so has obviously spent a lot of time with him. It's not hard to imagine that subject of Real Madrid came up in discussions between them and that he thus knows Poch's views on taking up taking up any job offer.If Ball bag is saying Poch isn't going to RM than we can believe the complete opposite.
At the time they didn't know they'd win the CL this season, so it doesn't wash to say that RM fans didn't care about losing to Spurs and coming 2nd in the group.They've just won three back to back CL's. I doubt they give a feck where they finished in the group stages.
I really do not think so. Every big club experiences upsets every now and again. If you knocked them out of the quarter finals for example, then maybe they would pay some more attention to you.I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
If you wish to take the view that fans don't care if their team loses a game, then that's your lookout sunshine.
Oh my, this is just getting sad now...
They didn't. Posters on here said as such.At the time they didn't know they'd win the CL this season, so it doesn't wash to say that RM fans didn't care about losing to Spurs and coming 2nd in the group.
De Gea is not even one of the 3 best gk in the worldBest opposition fans on this forum are Madrid fans. Probably the only group without any cnuts.
You're right.... along come Real Madrid who are rightly used to getting their way and he's told them to f*ck off? Shouldn't we applauding that? ...
Yep my list would be:De Gea is not even one of the 3 best gk in the world
Madrid finished 2nd in the group the year before as well (with Dortmund topping the group), and guess what? They won it and no one cares. It's just a means of advancing.I imagine a few RM fans cared when Spurs beat them and topped the group in the CL last season.
Most really don't when nothing is on the line like a group stage match, they know that CL is a long game. But I can see why Spurs fans might care so much as they don't know whether they'll be in it next year(s).Pointing out that fans do care when their team loses has nothing to do with "boasting" and everything to do with pointing out the obvious.
But if you wish to maintain that fans don't care when their team loses, then I'll just leave you hanging in that ridiculous stance.
Pointing out that fans do care when their team loses has nothing to do with "boasting" and everything to do with pointing out the obvious.Madrid finished 2nd in the group last year as well (with Dortmund topping the group), and guess what? They won it and no one cares. It's just a means of advancing, not something to boast about.
But congratulations on the group stage trophy, truly.
Believe whatever cosy theory makes you comfortable, although the notion that RM looked elsewhere due a shortage of money is pretty shaky.Again, this is not a fact. It’s actually the complete opposite, there’s absolutely no chance Zidane would have been fired if he had lost the CL final.
The most likely thing to have happened is Pochettino not outright refusing Madrid but telling them to talk to Levy about a price which made Madrid look for other options.
Kane and Alli aren’t worth what they would cost and I think Eriksen will end up leaving either this summer or next.
How say this with such assurance, as if you are ITK or something. Do you have a credible source that feeds you information on all things related to Spurs, or are you simply guessing?Believe whatever cosy theory makes you comfortable, although the notion that RM looked elsewhere due a shortage of money is pretty shaky.
Alli and Kane aren't available in the first place, so "what they would cost" is immaterial, and Eriksen will sign a new contract.
One of the worst posts I've ever see on here. Well done.Kane walks into the Madrid side with a blind fold on. And Poch, well, he is Madrid's no 1 target so....
The challenge at Spurs is far greater, get real. If Poch was to win the league at Spurs he'd go down in history as arguably one of their top 3 greatest ever managers, if he was to win any major trophy, he'll be remembered for ever. If he creates sustained success, he creates a legacy. Spurs are one of 6 sides in the PL that try to win the league every season. At Madrid, even if he won the CL, he would be no more than a fart in the wind. At Madrid, there are only 3 sides who can ever win the league, even in default setting, you finish top 3. The challenges are not comparable. Even medicore managers can take over at Madrid and win trophies. At Spurs, mediocre managers will get found out very quickly.
If the challenge at Spurs to win trophies is greater than Madrid, which it is right? You can't even argue that point. How is it lacking ambition to choose to stay in a job where it is HARDER to win trophies? Your post isn't logical. It is a sign of Poch's ambition that he wishes to remain at Spurs to try and win major trophies. Zidane is certainly not a great manager, I can guarantee he will likely do absolutely nothing in his career as a manger post Madrid. He isn't a great coach. Yet he's won 3 CLs. That is Madrid for you. Run of the mill managers can take over and win trophies like no tomorrow. Bringing Bale on with half an hour of a CL final doesn't make you a tactical genius ffs. He should have started.
I can smell the disappointment from United fans on here. AT first, a few days ago, when Poch was confirmed as Madrid's top target, nobody could contain their glee. "Ahaha, Poch will leave Spurs, gutted" etc etc etc. Oh wait, what's this? Poch has turned down Madrid because he WANTS TO STAY AT SPURS. Well it must be because he lacks ambition, yes that's it. How predictable. Just maybe it's because he thinks the challenge at Spurs and the job he has it fantastic at Spurs and he wants to see it through?! Maybe it's because he has complete control at Spurs and doesn't want to be Perez's bitch?!
No, I'm not simply guessing.How say this with such assurance, as if you are ITK or something. Do you have a credible source that feeds you information on all things related to Spurs, or are you simply guessing?
Is that wrong?Are you the Glaston of newbies?
Did you actually write that challenge at Spurs is far greater?
Also that part about Zidane is pretty funny. I guess Poch is a better manager so he doesn't want to go to Madrid where winning is so easy compared to Spurs.
Thanks for clearing that upNo, I'm not simply guessing.
Your being far too generousOne of the worst posts I've ever see on here. Well done.
The same poster who belittled the two trophies we won season before last. Yes, a Spurs fan belittling trophies won. Remarkable.One of the worst posts I've ever see on here. Well done.