There wasn't going to be many deals negotiated in advance with the World Cup. Should've waited til next season at least.Can't believe the hysteria in here.
1) Teams like Spurs will always negotiate to the last minute to maximise their return, whether the window was 1 week or 10 months!
2) Deals can be negotiated months in advance. Shortening the window doesn't change this.
3) Outside influence is irrelevant. If a team says no, it is no. No reasonable player can kick their heals when its not possible to get a replacement.
4) The window is irrelevant anyway. You can still buy players on loan even with an option to buy.
Not sure on the full details of that, but I don't know if there is anything to stop you saying I'll pay £79m for the loan and £1m for the buy, I.e. you are basically buying anyway.
So yeah no big deal. Massive over reaction regarding Pogba and regardless of when the window closes that issue may or may not go away.
I mean, our window has been simple & we've sorted out all of our business (minus Fekir) early on... Maybe it was a tactical vote from us, knowing that other clubs tend to take more time?Monumentally moronic decision, compounded by introducing it right after a World Cup. No surprise Liverpool voted in favour of it.
I like this idea.Can they just split it in two?
Allow English clubs to sign players from foreign clubs up until Aug 31st but block them from signing players from domestic clubs once the season starts? Seems a far more logical approach than the current one.
No to mention the envy (maybe even dislike) with which other European leagues will look at the premier league given how much money the clubs make. No chance they'd want to level the playing field.Not sure why anyone would expect the rest of Europe to fall in line with the Premier League on this one. Most of the other major leagues start later than ours, why the hell would they decide to shut their transfer windows a week to 2 weeks before their season starts? It's madness to expect them to do so.
No to mention the envy (maybe even dislike) with which other European leagues will look at the premier league given how much money the clubs make. No chance they'd want to level the playing field.
Also, Is it really fair that a club must abide by a rule it didnt vote for because other clubs did? The smaller clubs have too much influence. We also voted for it I guess we were sore about the Coutinho saga. It also hasnt affected our window much and made a shambles out of the United, Spurs and Chelsea ones so I guess thats a positive for us.
It should be given a chance, only if every European club whose season starts after the summer abides by it.I feel like the media are driving this narrative about the window closing early being a disaster.
Last year (or the year before) there were numerous media "thinkpieces" about how the window closing after the start of the season was stupid, a distraction etc.
So which is it? Perhaps we should give it a chance?
Or yeah, this can be an alternative to having it the current way.Can they just split it in two?
Allow English clubs to sign players from foreign clubs up until Aug 31st but block them from signing players from domestic clubs once the season starts? Seems a far more logical approach than the current one.
You're right. And I'm sure a lot of us agreed with it. But keeping in mind that everyone else continues to transact and the world cup creating issues, it's a bonkers decision. In principal, it makes sense if everyone follows it without fail. Although I suppose you could argue that an extra 15 day window to sort out issues you see at the start is also fair to an extent.I feel like the media are driving this narrative about the window closing early being a disaster.
Last year (or the year before) there were numerous media "thinkpieces" about how the window closing after the start of the season was stupid, a distraction etc.
So which is it? Perhaps we should give it a chance?
There's no transfer window for renewing contracts.The biggest irony is that Levy voted for it.
Or not though. If the window was until August 31st, they'd probably have to play their backup for three weeks because Courtois isn't present at the moment. He'd still try to force a move and they'd still need a replacement while every club in Europe knows that they can charge them whatever they'd like.The Courtois fiasco explains why it's a terrible idea.
The entire point of moving the window forward was to prevent players from getting their heads turned when the season starts. As we have seen with some cases, it won't work.Great idea, only downside is that it's been implemented in a World Cup year. Even then, most clubs have done their business it seems - it's only situations where players are actively seeking a transfer (Courtois) or where one of the two parties is too stubborn to budge on a ridiculous fee (Alderweireld, Maguire, ...) that have yet to be settled at this point. If the window was three weeks longer, we'd be August 30th and Levy would still be arguing over £5m.
I think reactions on here would've been different if you had your business sorted nice and early like you used to do.
Courtois will play once it's clear he will not be sold. If the deadline was at the end of August, he wouldn't have played their first couple of league games. It gives you the same problems but almost all those problems go away before the start of the season now, which is why it's a good decision.The entire point of moving the window forward was to prevent players from getting their heads turned when the season starts. As we have seen with some cases, it won't work.
What they should have done was close off the domestic market,so as to give teams in Chelsea's scenario wiggle room. Chelsea could be stuck that a shit GK cause Courtois is on strike.
Chelsea knew that Courtois wanted to leave and they knew they had limited time. They still decided to wait/try to convince him, and now they're stuck in panic mode offering to pay €80m for Kepa. It's their own fault.Most clubs are pissed off about this.
why put the premier league in a disadvantage position against other leagues. makes no sense.
other then Liverpool i dont think any top 6 club has had an usual summer of ins and outs. everyone is hogging onto their players knowing the market and the lack of time to replace players.
Players like Martial, Willian, Hazard, Courtouis usually would have been sold or be sold into the second 2nd week of the season. Very strange
I agree that it would massively help if other leagues followed suit. Maybe we should not have trialled the system in a WC year to start.You're right. And I'm sure a lot of us agreed with it. But keeping in mind that everyone else continues to transact and the world cup creating issues, it's a bonkers decision. In principal, it makes sense if everyone follows it without fail. Although I suppose you could argue that an extra 15 day window to sort out issues you see at the start is also fair to an extent.
I don't think it's that as it's still in every club's hands. I also don't really buy that there really was *that* much disruption anyway, managers complain about anything and everything that isn't their own ability so their crying bloody murder about losing one player for three games due to speculation should have been taken with a pinch of salt. In any case players acting like this is surely a product of giving the babies their bottles in the first place, and with negative reinforcement - as soon as a player strikes tell them the deal is off - the behaviour could be stamped out.It does seem to put English clubs at a disadvantage.
I think it was designed to help the “smaller” Premier League clubs so that they know what squad they’re going into the season with. But I’m not sure it really even does that - e.g. you could imagine a situation where we buy Maguire on deadline day, then suddenly Leicester are left scrambling for any old CB or facing half a season without one.
Owners of selling clubs (more in number than buying clubs) can keep the money especially sale after the English window closes with legit reason. They shift the blame toward the rule/system and fans can't do nothing about.Surely this decision has to be a mistake by the clubs and the FA. Especially seeing that other countries transfer windows close month end. What where the clubs and FA thinking.
Nope, why would they? Spanish and Italian leagues start a week after us and the Bundesliga starts a week later again. Why would they agree to cut their windows short to the benefit of the Premiership?Has it not been rolled out to all countries just that they have chosen to implent in for the 2019 Season ?
Nope it was still stupid, Liverpool voted for it because they were pissed off that they nearly lost Coutinio to Barcelona late in the window last year. Not realizing this change only affects English clubs, so if that scenario played out again you could still lose a player only this time the English window would be closed so you couldn’t even sign a replacement.I mean, our window has been simple & we've sorted out all of our business (minus Fekir) early on... Maybe it was a tactical vote from us, knowing that other clubs tend to take more time?
So you are saying there is still hope till 31 August to add Mbappe, Toby & Alex Sandro?We can still add players, loan with a guaranteed option to buy in January.
